Is Shang-Chi a Trap? | Fin Fang Foom Dominance | The High Evo Surprise | The Snap Chat Ep. 166

This week, Alex is joined by the caster, streamer, and "Golden Gauntlet" voice: Not My Dance! The duo kicks things off with an origin story involving a Florida hurricane and a bad case of food poisoning that led to a Marvel Snap addiction.

They dive straight into the massive new release, Fin Fang Foom. Is this 7-Cost behemoth just fodder for Hela, or does the War Machine Ramp deck finally have a new finisher? They also break down the season's biggest surprise, Dragon Lord, debating if this free-to-play card is actually the best release of the month.

Alex and Not My Dance also preview Shang-Chi, Master of Rings, discussing the major downside of the card starting in your hand and whether the "10 Rings" payoff is worth losing a draw.

Plus, they discuss the "Hero's Journey" of a Marvel Snap match and why the current retreat meta robs players of satisfying comebacks. Finally, they answer a Mailbag question about the dream of a Draft Mode in 2026. 

Join Alex Coccia and special guest Not My Dance as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat—and catch Cozy and Alex every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

You’ve been listening to The Snap Chat. Keep the conversation going on x.com/ACozyGamer and x.com/AlexanderCoccia. Until next time, happy snapping!

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
• 1:18 Marvel Snap Origin Stories
• 2:55 Challenges and Joys of Streaming Marvel Snap
• 4:43 The Evolution of Marvel Snap Gameplay
• 5:44 Discussing Marvel Snap Cards and Strategies
• 13:17 Fin Fang Foom: A Deep Dive
• 27:05 Shang-Chi and the Ten Rings Analysis
• 39:16 Diving into Card Games
• 39:33 Marvel Snap Strategy: Retreating vs. Playing to Outs
• 39:51 Game Modes and Deadpool's Diner
• 41:40 Surprising Cards of the Season
• 42:09 High Evolutionary and Deck Synergies
• 47:35 Spider-Ham and Other Card Interactions
• 1:05:47 Draft Mode and Future Updates
• 1:12:48 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

Transcript

Alex: 0:00

Hey everyone, and welcome to the next edition of the Snapchat Today. I'm joined by not My dance, someone who I've wanted to have on the Snapchat for the longest time, simply because I think that you are one of the most talented casters and presenters in the Snap space. I've seen you work the Golden Gauntlets, I've seen you do some casting and stuff, and I gotta tell you, it's been remarkable. I was watching as a fan, I was like, we gotta get them on the podcast at some point. How are you? And welcome to the Snapchat.

notmydance: 0:25

I'm doing well. I'm absolutely stoked to be here. It's an absolute honor. No, I just, I like talking a lot, so, um, so casting Podding or whatever you wanna say in general, it works out in pretty well, so it's a lot of fun. I do just enjoy being able to talk about things that I'm passionate about. Marvel snap's one of'em, and I'm happy to talk about that with you today.

Alex: 0:45

Yeah, that's awesome. And you have your own podcast for Marvel Snap, do you not?

notmydance: 0:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that with, Tucker, over on his channel, Marvel, yap. Which. Yeah, we've been doing that for a over a year now, I think. But it's been a pretty good time. I've, I loved it. Loved just talking.

Alex: 1:00

Yeah. And Tucker's another fantastically talented player as well, so that's, uh, yeah, it's a great duo. Definitely. We're gonna be linking that down below for, uh, everyone to check out as well.'cause if you like this podcast, you probably like other podcasts related to Marvel Snap as well, so, uh, you know, we'll, we'll share the love there, but, uh, yeah, it's great to have you and I, as I say with all the guests that join us for the first time. I would love to know your Marvel Snap origin story. You started somewhere I don't believe you were in the early beta, so I'm kind of curious when you kind of entered the world of Marvel Snap and what made you decide to not only start making content for it, but what made you fall in love with the game in the first place?

notmydance: 1:35

I'm always a sucker for an IP in general. I love those things can typically get me. I try to do that less nowadays, but I, but back when Marvel Snap first came out, I was playing a different game called Clash Royale. That just increased the monetization in a very unfun way. Felt extremely pay to win. And so I just, I was taking a step back from that. I was trying to play less of it. And then one of the creators that I watched play that game, they did a, like a promo for Marvel Snap, Marvel Snap paid them to do like a, you know, 10 minute video on it. And I'm like, I like these characters, this seems interesting. I'll jump on it. And downloaded the game and then immediately got sick for a week.'cause I was on vacation in Florida. And they had a hurricane like the week prior or whatever, and so I wasn't supposed to drink the water. Spoiler alert I did. So I was sick in bed and just played Marvel Snap for a few days to a week and became very familiar with the game pretty quickly. I had a blast with it and kind of just spiraled from there. I was streaming other things occasionally at the time, and then realized that the actual client would work. It was back when it was still vertical, and that was one of the biggest reasons I didn't wanna stream it because I was like, I didn't wanna have to go through all the work of just cutting it all up together. But I realized I still was playing it when I was wanting to do other things and I said, okay, this is probably something I should get into and I don't know. Here we are.

Alex: 2:55

That's kind of a similar thing that happened to me where, uh, like I've talked about it in the past, but like, my primary thing was I used to do variety content and stuff like that, but I started to focus more on, uh, like Dota two Dota under Lourds, which was the auto battler, kind of the, like the less popular version of TFT. When the auto chess craze got popular, like I was all over it and I loved it, and I was actually kinda the first launching points from my channel and I was playing like Dota two competitively. Like I, uh, I'd been applying as a caster for the Invitational and stuff like that. Uh, and I, there's a reason why you never saw me cast the invitational. That's because I got absolutely addicted to Marvel Snap. And then what happened was, I remember talking to my wife, I was like, I had these opportunities coming up in, in the world of the Dotas sphere. And I told my wife, I'm like, you know what? Like, I just don't love that game as much as I used to. I just don't, and I feel like sometimes when I'm streaming, I'm going through the motions. But when I'm playing this Marvel Snap game, like I'm having so much fun, I'm like, yeah, my viewership's awful. Like I only have three people watching me, but like, I kind of don't care. You know what I mean? Like I kind of just wanna stream that. Like I can get better numbers streaming Dota two, but I wanna play some Marvel Snap. And then I just started streaming it. Like, and this was in the summer because what happened was when the game first got announced, I was super into, uh, Hearthstone as well. I loved it. And I obviously, I was a fan of Ben Broad, and so I kind of just put my name in to the beta as anyone would. I got rejected from their creative program. Well, I mean, ghosted, I guess I did apply to be a part of their creative program. They just ghosted me. And then, um, I didn't get in on the first wave. I remember watching like TLSG and Binks and everyone making content. Like I was like looking through the window. And then finally I got in and like, once I got in, it was about a month late compared to everyone else. I just couldn't stop playing it. Like, I'm like, you, like I just like. Like when I couldn't, when I didn't have to play Marvel Snap, I wanted to play Marvel Snap. And then the rest is kind of history. Right? Like it really does do a great job of, of sinking its hooks into you. And actually, I got a fun story I gotta, I gotta share with you so you guys know I'm a teacher and everything and uh, one of my coworkers, he is, he's on the older side, right? He's uh, he's like in his late fifties. And I know people in the comments would be like, that's not old. I, I know I hear you guys out there. I hear you guys out there. I love you guys too. But yeah, he's in his late fifties and like he had saw that I had a YouTube channel and he's like, I don't know what this moral sound. Anyways, he installed it and now he like wander into my classroom every once in a while and be like, Hey. He's like, what do you think of this deck? Like how can I make it better? And he is like, collection level, like 650 and like, I'm like trying to help make That's awesome. Like, make a deck. It's so awesome because like, he actually loves the game too. And now he's been playing it constantly for about a month. And uh, now he's like, how do I get all these cards you're talking about? I'm like, oh God.

notmydance: 5:29

I chaching use your mom's credit. Does, I don't know if he still has access to his mom's credit card. You could just use that. That's the best way to do it.

Alex: 5:35

The most powerful card in Tcgs, the credit card, all of them.

notmydance: 5:39

It's absolutely busted. Hopefully, hopefully they nerf that in no ta sometime soon. Yeah. Hopefully

Alex: 5:44

That's the hope. But, uh, but yeah, like, it's just, I dunno, I'm like you. I just, I st I still love playing the game. Some things have started to kind of wear on me a bit. Like, uh, my desire to grind, like through the ladder is kind of diminished. Like I find myself playing some more like, oh God. Yeah, like conquest just to kind of play. I find myself not caring about like, I don't know, I just, the drive towards. Towards ranking like infinite or even getting into high infinite ranks. I just, it, that just does not call to me as it used to. Mm-hmm. But I still love the game. I still like seeing things go boom. I still like seeing numbers go up. I still like seeing victory, you know what I mean? Oh yeah. It's still a game. I can't stop playing.

notmydance: 6:23

No, it's, I feel like that's climb to infinite. I, it's, it's, there's always like a negativity bias around it. Right. But I feel like in general, the climb to infinite just feels rougher as time goes on because every single time it feels like people are getting better at the game. So if you try to Snap and play the game optimally, then people retreat more. Is one thing I feel like I've noticed, like back in the, when the game started, people would be snapping on everything. You Snap on the final turn, doesn't matter, who cares. But now I feel like everyone's better at the game. And so if you Snap people actually care a lot more. And so people. Retreat more, which means it turns into a game of Marvel retreat more so than Marvel Snap. So like you said, conquest. So once if I'm just getting retreated on turn one too many times in their, it's like, you know what, conquest people aren't just retreating immediately. They're stuck here with me. They're locked in a room. We'll play this out a little bit more there. It's, it can be so much, it's much more fun in my opinion.

Alex: 7:15

No, a hundred percent. And like the whole retreat thing, while it has like, obviously like, like there's a skill element to that. Like it actually adds complexity to the game, which I do appreciate. And like you don't want the golden gauntlet without retreating, but that's totally different than what like the ladder feels like right now. It feels like a, a mindless grind at times. It just isn't fun. And I think Marvel Snap needs to look at themselves and say like, what's fun? Is this experience fun? Is it engaging? Is it churning players out? Which it is because they tell me in the comments section frequently, everyone that I talk to that's very casual, borderline laments the ranked ladder system. It's not good. It's not what they want. And one thing I will say is I, I don't, I don't know, I haven't snapped in like six months because if I Snap, I don't get content'cause everyone leaves. Oh yeah. So I don't care. I hope they Snap on me. I almost wanna throw the early turns so they can Snap so that I can come back and win for extra cubes. I can't Snap'cause they'll leave

notmydance: 8:06

a hundred percent. No, I'll be, I'll be recording or whatever else stream they're like, and I'll say someone Snap, this is where you Snap. Like, yeah, this is where you should Snap. If I do that, they leave. So I'm not snapping here. And then once in a while I'll forget and I'll still Snap and then they immediately retreat and I'm like, this is why you can't do it. You can't Snap apparently anymore in this game. But it's, God, it's so difficult. Not even mentioning just the, again, that climb to infinite, the bots that you'll get.'cause you don't know if you get the nice bots that are meant to pump you or you get the evil bots, which they say don't cheat anymore. But I swear, I swear it feels like cheating. They still feel like they cheat to me.

Alex: 8:40

I love the fact that you and I use the term, they pump you in completely opposite context. You're saying they pump you as in like they feed you cubes when they're pumping me. It's the opposite. That's not the way I use the term. Like they're pumping Are

notmydance: 8:53

Are you getting pumped in you? You're getting pumped then is negative. Yeah, but in a negative context. In the negative context,

Alex: 8:58

yeah.

notmydance: 8:59

I guess is what I'm trying to say diff slightly different. That's fair. Yeah. Slightly different is what

Alex: 9:03

I'm trying to say. Yeah,

notmydance: 9:04

it's rough. I don't know. At least you get the 500 golds for 90 and that's I think, easy.

Alex: 9:09

Yeah, of course. Or easier. On the easier side. Yeah. The, uh, I think that there, there has to be a balance struck between like the bots as cube inflators to some degree, to allow people that are putting the time in to just kind of like, very easily kind of get towards infinite on an aggregate kind of month, as opposed to like, well, let's just take'em out because you're right, there are still scam bots in there, and the bot seem to have a very wide range of like, this bot's the dumbest bot ever, and it's gonna play Nikia on turn six. Mm-hmm. Or like this bot is playing I don't know. What's a deck that could not possibly run like, I don't know, shadow King and like it's just running shot k like a S

notmydance: 9:48

sheet or like a weird version of like, the bots have a weird version of Mr. Negative that uses like sunspot and stuff.

Alex: 9:53

Yeah. I avoid, like, I've seen stuff like that where it's like, oh, they're playing Mr. Negative. And then they'll, they'll play like shachi on me or something, and I'm like, what the hell is this deck that's not in the deck? It's never been there. And I don't know. I, I wish I had a better example than just like, oh, they played shachi on me, which could have been any number of actual real players. But I'm telling you, you know, the feel when you're like, that's a scam. You know what I mean? Oh yeah.

notmydance: 10:18

A hundred percent. No. If it, if I get the, I've done it before where on the climb to infinite,'cause depending on your collection level, like bots always have like a collection level closer to you. There. It used to be a bug where it was like their exact same as you, but it's typically closer to you in terms of collection level. And if it, the bot is, if I see someone who's too close to me to collection level. I'll just retreat because I really don't wanna play against a bot. And if it's a bot that's meant to give you cubes or meant for you to get pumped or, I don't know which way you're saying it, but but a way that basically gives you more cubes. The bot, like you'll get another bot. But if it's a bot that was meant to be like, oh, you took too long to find a match and then they're going to beat you or beat play you in a much more aggressive way that you just, it'll be a lot harder for you to get cubes, then you won't get one probably. So it's like you could try to game the system but you have to play another game of like, that's part of the reason why I think the latter system is there's a whole other thing there, but like the latter system is flawed'cause it feels like you have to play another game that's not Marvel Snap in order to reach the goal of Marvel Snap, which is hitting infinite.

Alex: 11:23

It's like you gotta play some macro game of like guess the robot sometimes, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I totally feel that. One thing I wanna mention about the, the snapping and retreating, by the way, is one of the reasons why I almost never retreat is that I think a lot of people miss out on glorious wins. Like when you don't retreat and you force yourself to place through, through some things, you will surprise yourself with victories. And I'll tell you, some of my absolute best highlights, best videos, most well received content that I make are when people are like, wow, he's down three locations and they snapped. How's he like? This looks impossible. Mm-hmm. And either by virtue of them utterly mis playing, which is entirely possible, or by some miraculous means of chaos, I end up winning. Those are like the best videos, the best clips. They give you the best feeling. And if you're just retreating every single time, it's like you miss it. You absolutely miss it. It's like, uh, it's like watching a movie and then just like turning it on, like. Turning it off. Sorry just as it starts to get hot at the end, you're like, I think this is like, what's it called? The hero has a thousand faces, right? Oh, yeah's. The idea of like the story structure, it's like the hero's journey where it's like, yeah. Hero's journey. They have to wait till

notmydance: 12:30

they, they fall, like their worst moment or whatever. Like that's the moment. That deep pit or whatever call

Alex: 12:34

it. Yeah. Yeah. The deepest pit or whatever they call it in the hero has a thousand faces. The hero's journey. Right. I think the hero has a thousand faces. That's the original book that inspired the hero's journey type storytelling. Right. Anyways, I don't know. Someone who understand literature will actually, and uh, yeah, that's like turning off like the movie. Every time that story like architecture hits its part where it's like, oh, they're really sad. I'm out. You know what I mean? You don't actually see the, the great comeback. So anyways, that's, that's my take there. But we've been rambling a lot. We got cars to top. Do you wanna talk about Marvel Snap cards or do you wanna just keep rambling?

notmydance: 13:10

I listen, this is your, this is your show. You, you direct me and I will like the air, the air traffic controller. You tell me which way to go. I'm, I'll follow.

Alex: 13:17

Well, I got good news'cause we can ramble about cards as well and we could ramble about Fin Fang Fme, which from my understanding as I called you to start this podcast, you were actively still playing a Fang F game. I've never had it before. Mm-hmm. I'm like, hey, we're talking about the pod getting ready and you're actively still playing Marvel Snap while we're discussing getting started for the pod. So we actually had to wait for you to finish your game before getting started. So you were loaded

notmydance: 13:42

up too. I had time, but also, but also I got to win with Fang F when we were loading. Yes. I really do like Fin Fang f This is a, I wanted this card in the game. I had first like, talked about it with someone else over like in 2024, like the summer of 2024 and. The summer of last year when it was first, like there were data minds and such that were suggesting that dragons might be coming out. I actually dmd Glen and I, uh, Glen Jones, who's one of the balanced designers, whatever of the game, and I said, Hey, I don't, I, you can't confirm this, but if Fin Fang F's coming in the game, if there's any way I could like do stuff for this card,'cause I'm just stoked about Fin Fang f for some reason. Like, I've got connection. There's a show that I watched when I was a kid called Superhero Squad. Such a kid show, if you know it, it was a, it was a dumb and fun show about Marvel heroes. But I just remember Fin Fang FF from that show just being like an absolute menace and being like in awe of his power. And for some reason, that name and that character is like stuck in my head. So Fin Fang f finally entering the game. Oh my gosh, I was so stoked for it. I'm, I, I think it's a blast.

Alex: 14:48

I think it's the alliteration. It's definitely the literation. That's why it kind of sticks to mind. But, uh, for me, I think I mentioned this in the preview when we talked about it. I never knew about Fang Flu until I played the Guardians of the Galaxy, uh, game on pc. The kind of recent one over the last couple years. You can get it on like steam for like$9 sometimes, and it's actually a great game. It's so good and Fink bang F's in it as like a boss. You gotta fight.

notmydance: 15:12

I actually saw a clip of it. I don't know if it's like how late you can spoil games or whatever, but like, I think I remember seeing a clip of the fin of Fin Fang fu and I think something happens with Drs in there and they just get really excited. I don't remember, I'm not gonna say anything'cause I, again, I don't know what spoilers can be said, but I, I remember seeing a clip about it when I was just like thinking about, I don't know, I was, one day I got bored and just started looking up F Fang f clips on YouTube.

Alex: 15:34

Yeah, I don't actually remember what the context is, but it has something to do with Drax. I, I legit don't remember not even trying to spoil it or anything that I, it has something to do with Drax and I think Drax is excited. I think they might be on Drax as Home Planet or something and Fink Fang f's there. I don't know. Someone will, I think it, it's like Anele,

notmydance: 15:49

right? I think

Alex: 15:51

I barely even know the lore of Ironman. So like, I'm not the right one to

notmydance: 15:56

ask. Well, Ironman's actually a really, one of his most common enemies, I think, which is a shout. I actually love it that Ironman is a really good counter to F Fang F because if Ironman's in the front lane, FFP obviously can't gain any of his power.

Alex: 16:09

Do you think that's intentional?

notmydance: 16:11

I don't know, but I hope it is because I think that's cool.

Alex: 16:14

I really like how someone at, like someone at second dinner really has a pulse on like the lore of these cards. Mm-hmm. Because a lot of the effects, well some are totally random, some of them really do have a flavor for like what that hero does. Like, I like the idea that Ironman does the doubling of power'cause he's like inspiring those around him type thing. Like he's maximizing their potential. Mm-hmm. I like the idea that like Scarlet Witch changes the location chaotically, like all those types of things are actually really cool. Uh, and obviously Legion being like an ultra powerful being changes all the locations. I think that's, I dunno. Oh yeah. There's a lot of really cool touches like that in, uh, in Marvel Snap.

notmydance: 16:50

Oh, sorry. I was gonna say is most thematic characters. I, in my opinion, I think it's still gambit'cause it just discards a card to destroy a card. Even if Gambit always hits my perfect card every time. I think Gambit is the most thematic character.

Alex: 17:01

Would most likely be the case. I would agree with that. I know, I mean, there's, there's so many that are really good. So, and some of them that are like more deep cuts, right? Mm-hmm. That I think are like apocalypse coming back. Oh yeah. Always being like being eternal, like surviving every single time apocalypse, always doing that is super cool. Yeah. That's like, I think there's a lot of examples.

notmydance: 17:20

Bruce banner's also, like I al I do really love Bruce. That's another really cool one, which, which is obv, it's like extremely easy to see how thematic that one is, but also that's a really cool one.

Alex: 17:29

Yeah. The idea that like he isn't in perfect control of his shapeshift type thing. Mm-hmm.

notmydance: 17:34

Yeah. It's. Sorry, we could talk about Finn Fang FI get, I'm distracted as well.

Alex: 17:38

Yeah, I, I honestly really liked the card. I gave it a good review. I said it was absolutely worth getting. And I actually went on a limb in my review, which is only, of course, it was like a first day impressions review. I didn't actually think hello was the best way to play it. And believe it or not, my idea was, uh, backed up by a 51% win rate on Holodeck. Andex still being fun, but. It was the chamber war machine stall decks that really stood out for Fink FF for me because there are so many avenues to getting him out as a natural turn six play without having to result any shenanigans where he just represents a massive amount of power on the board. And sometimes if that power is not necessary, like say you're like, I gotta trade that location iron, not, well, I don't know if you're gonna go into a location with Ironman, but like let's say they have a couple small cards there, you can still usually be like, well I got the Finau still and Fin's actually bigger in that lane than Fin F Fu and Fin Fang FU is bigger in this lane. So it gave some actual macro consideration I appreciated. But yeah, for me, I really liked the card and I thought it was best in war.

notmydance: 18:40

It's a lot of fun. I, it's also a weird version of like a tech card, which I really liked, which felt like a tech card with'cause right. It's kind of like just basically not destroying the power of the enemy cards at the front, but it basically is, you know, gaining its own, gaining the power of them, which I thought was a really cool trade off. And it also let me be able to feel like I could actually run armor in a deck and feel without having to feel like Shang Q was a mistake, which is cool. But also I think one of the places that I wasn't expecting most, but I really loved was, uh, was high evolutionary. I think high evolutionary was one that I also thought was a really great. Place for Fin Fang F'cause people were using, you know, majestic Wing beat. You could use Luna Snow Warlock Superior Spiderman. I even saw people running Shocker with Fin Fang F, which is a shock on in and of itself. It card I just think is really awesome and pretty flexible.

Alex: 19:28

It is. It feels like one of the first, I shouldn't say this because obviously Scar is a seven drop of the seven drops. That, or even death. Nevermind. I might have to walk this back. I was gonna say of the plus six cost cards, it felt like the most natural to feel like you can just play. But obviously like Death and Scar have their D, but they're being discounted, right? Like I felt like, well even though Galatis making a comeback, I felt like you had to really work for that to make sense. Where I feel like Fang boom, you don't have to work as hard for it. It makes sense as a seven cost,

notmydance: 19:55

I think. Yeah. Honestly, I think you could just stick with your original statement. I think it's correct because the card is, it is just like a really big card and one of the big interesting things about the seven cost cards that have no way to discount themselves is obviously you have to. Build a way to play it. But cards like Scar, weapon, H, death, all those have builtin discounters, but Fin Fink boom and Galati don't. Whereas Galati still requires you to build a whole deck around it and Fin Fink f's the first seven cost card that is kind of just slot, like you can put it wherever you really feel like you want play. F Fink. F.

Alex: 20:29

Yeah. If you're a free to play player and you pull Fink, Fang F, you're like. Oh, I could just put him in my random deck of stuff I'm playing'cause I don't have all the cards or whatever and I can take out Magneto and put Fang Fu in and put in like a Luna Snow that I got from a pack or whatever. And he makes sense'cause he's not reliant on you building around him at all the way like a gala acti would be. So, yeah, absolutely. And I will say that like in terms of the, uh, untapped based statistics, you are looking at like a 58% win rate in the top performing decks, positive cube rates looking very good. Again, the Heller version running about a 51% win rate and the war machine runs running a 57 to 58% win rate. Do you even have like some art Zola man spider stuff running in the uh, low 50, like lots of opportunities to play this card in unique ways, but for me, as long as war machine is viable, I think Fang F is viable and probably a decent investment. If you're, if you're looking for a card, you're like, Alex, should I get this card if I wanna play war machine? Yes, you can. My only concern is do they. Go after that war machine package. It's been a very consistent package in Marvel Snap ever since War Machine was changed from a forecast with five costs. And it makes me wonder if they Nerf war machine, if Fink Fang f suddenly feels way worse because he's not seeing playing the other, uh, archetypes the same way.

notmydance: 21:43

I think you could still run fume in a bunch of other pla in other places, maybe not a bunch, but other places. But at the same time, I think even if they did hit war machine, they're most likely just to bring it down at Power or two. And I think that the, while the archetype will just lose a couple of points, I'm pretty sure it'll be still relatively playable. I think one of the best things about the war machine deck is the fact that they've, they legitimately, at one point they said the buffing of electro will continue until morale improves, I think. And so because they've continued to buff up electro cards like War Machine feel better, fin Fang F feels better. Uh, like stuff like that, I just think that it'll probably be fine even if they do take a hit. Uh, fin Fang f's a blast. I don't. I always like to say personally, pe people like the play style of a card, get it because second dinner will try to typically bring all cards to like an even playing field or whatever. So just because a card is, you know, a busted card or the, a super weak card, if you like the idea behind the card, there's a good chance that it'll be brought to a even level. I mean, look at noir, right? Spider-Man Noir absolutely sucked on a first release and they brought it to a, it's not amazing, but it's also still completely fine right now where they, with the change that they did. So it'll be okay.

Alex: 22:53

How dare you, Spider-Man Noir is one of my favorite cards in the game right now. I was gonna up upon a surprise. I'm not, not hating on

notmydance: 22:59

it. I'm not hating on the card. No, no, no. Lemme make that very clear. I'm not hating on the card. I'm just saying that it was not received well. In terms of like win rate competitively upon first release and now it's even better of that. It was awful. Yeah.

Alex: 23:10

Yes. The floor was risen so much higher. Oh my gosh. It noir. Yeah it's actually so fun. But uh, but yeah, honestly the one interesting thing is that like electro started as a three two, now it's a three five. That's crazy. And uh, actually talking about thematic cards, we've seen a couple of, like the older cards get buffed up. One that still doesn't see much play despite getting a bunch of buffs is rogue. Rogue went from a three one to a three, two now to a three, three still doesn't really see play. People are gonna use ENC chances over rogue and chance even making some of the, actually in the top performing war machine deck Enc chara is there, the five eight Nerf enc chara see more play than ever. It's just a better version of Enchant. Yeah, it's

notmydance: 23:51

the Enchant and the war machine are both actual buffs as well to I think electro. A

Alex: 23:56

hundred percent. Yeah.

notmydance: 23:57

Yeah. Love

Alex: 23:58

this. It's like the, uh, it's like the change by, uh, what's it called? Buff by association. Yes. Where uh, you know, what's it called? Star Brand comes out and no one wants to play Star brand and then they're like, huh, star Brand's pretty good, but what if we made Sour on a one cost and then all of a sudden Star Brand's like one of the top cards in the meta because now he's going perfect alongside a new Eron. Right. So yeah, that Buff Association definitely happens, but I'm just kinda worried about Fing Fang Foo getting a Nerf by association.'cause if, if this war machine deck gets blown up by a balance patch, like I'm, I know you're saying it's probably fine, but I think that on aggregate it probably hurts. Like the people that invested in Fame Fang Fu

notmydance: 24:37

potentially a bit. I feel like the card will still be fine after some time. I've honestly, like, I think the decks I've been playing least of it are both ramp and hella. Because I felt like those were, I dunno, I, I don't like typically going for the decks that are very obvious or whatever. I try to play stuff that feels weird and just typically weird means bad, but I'll still play it because I have fun with it. And I think I, I feel if Fink film will still be okay, even if it does take a hit, I think that it'll still recover and it will be in the end just an okay card that you can put where you want I dunno a small hit to war machine or a, or something else. That deck like chamber going to a two two, I think will still result in that deck being extremely playable.

Alex: 25:19

Okay. So, uh, on the Snapchat we do star ratings from one through five, one being absolute unmedicated, filth, like martyr on release, five being absolute bangers, meta warping cards, kinda like what she, la is essentially. Where do you put Fang F on the one to five star rating?

notmydance: 25:36

Uh, my own personal bias says to put it at a six, but legitimately it's probably a four and a half, four.

Alex: 25:41

Yeah, I would say definitely a solid for, yeah,

notmydance: 25:44

just good. Just does what the, it does what it says and it does it well.

Alex: 25:48

Yeah. And it's not, it does not feel like a bunch of hoops to jump through either, which is nice. Like, it actually feels like a good card worth having your collection, and it has a breadth of like, it's not niche as long as you could ramp into something. It even, like, it's funny you mention the hi Evo stuff. It's like, even if you're running like Evo with like, uh, uh, well, I would play like Sable and Sunspot and stuff. Then you run like Supreme Spider-Man or Spider-Man Supreme. What's his name? That sounds like a Taco ball. Superior Spider-Man. Superior Spider-Man. That's the card. That's the card. I don't know why I was thinking something else. I, did I say, did I say Spider-Man Supreme? That sounds like a great cartoon. You did.

notmydance: 26:21

Yeah.

Alex: 26:21

I did say that.

notmydance: 26:23

It's okay. There's 19 million cards that all have the same name, and I'm pretty sure there's, there will be even more that have, that are the same thing, which this is technically the second version of, of Dr. Octopus, but you could also argue it's the third version or fourth, fifth version of Spider-Man. I don't.

Alex: 26:38

I love the fact that sometimes when I bring up lore, stuff like that, there's someone in the comments who has like a huge paragraph of like a lore explainer. And I like commit to reading it. Like I don't just like glaze over. I, I actually read it and then I come out the end more confused than ever. Like I get, I become more confused by the explanation than anything else, which I think, uh, you know, might be unique. That might be an Alex problem, but still I think it's particularly funny and talking about cards that already exist in the game.

notmydance: 27:05

Oh, I thought you were gonna talk about the cards that got buffed by association.

Alex: 27:08

Did this card get buffed by association?

notmydance: 27:10

Yeah, right. With the Claya thing. They even mentioned that I think in the last like, OTA,

Alex: 27:15

you're right. For the audio, uh, listeners, I have put Han Chi, the Master of Rings on the screen, the three five that reads Game start. The 10 rings start in your hand on Reveal. Unlock their potential. And you'll be thinking, Alex, what are these 10 rings you speak of? Well, my friends, I can answer that question as well. Uh, the 10 rings starts as a two, one that reads on reveal. Give one of your other cards here, plus one power. And then once you unlock, it's amazing potential very thematic mug you have there. By the way, the 10 rings becomes a two, two that reads, end of turn, give your other carts here, plus one power. So it goes from a pretty mediocre two cost to literally one of the better two costs in the game pretty amazing effect. But you do have to unlock its power with shanxi, the master of rings. I'm gonna give you the floor here. I'll let you discuss what you think about it and, uh, your preliminary star rating in terms of like what you think it's gonna land at.

notmydance: 28:18

So I think one of the biggest things about this card that I feel that people have talked about is the fact that the 10 rings do take up one of your draws, I think at the opening on your, like opening hand. So it makes it so you have a slightly larger deck, which means everything else that you do have in your deck, you have a le, you have less likelihood to draw. And that includes Shang Q, master of the Rings, which has been the biggest, I think, detriment to this card, which is, I, it's unfortunate. It is what, it's fine. I think this card will probably be okay. I don't think it's going to. Be as prominent as Ang F or sh la or even Majestic wink. Like I feel like this card will probably just be okay. I'm gonna, I like what it does and the cards that you can use with it. Like with Clay, I feel like there's a weird version that I want a weird deck, that I want to try that with like a Surfer hybrid thing with this. And I don't know, but in the end, I feel like it'll be probably okay to just actually not at all. But I don't know, two and a half, three stars is probably where I'm gonna be landing with this guy.

Alex: 29:15

I was almost at like a five star rating, and then when I learned that it basically does the Quicksilver, draw stuff, I was like, no. Like the card's so much more worse. Mm-hmm. Like, it's so much worse now, but not like that the card's bad. I just think that before it would've been like, maybe it would've been such a huge swing if the. If the first iteration of the 10 rings was simply a free card in your hand, that might have been so unbelievably good, like a completely broken card that maybe it always had to be this because we'd be like, oh, look how good it is. And you get it and you're like, wow, everyone's playing it against me. This feels awful. Like this thing sucks. Like how could they release it like this? Right. Maybe this is what had to happen. But like it definitely takes a lot off the card for sure.

notmydance: 29:58

It also hurts'cause I feel like the, I feel like there were versions of the rings that we had seen at one point, which were like also better. And so I don't know it like, again, data minds and whatever, you can look at those or not. But there was versions of the Data Minds, which had you, which had the, the 10 rings I think as like an end of turn for their first ability that only buffed one and then they changed it just to be an on reveal. And I don't know, like the card just, it felt like it was really powerful at first.'cause it didn't, it wasn't, it was gonna like not take up one of your opening draws. It was gonna be hitting a lot more stuff. It felt cool and then. It just got really heavily hit and it feels a lot worse now. I'm hoping it's still okay. And if it isn't, then my logic is again, second dinner, we'll, buff cards that aren't good. And whenever that happens, I hope it'll feel at least better at that point.

Alex: 30:48

And there's a ton of dials on this, like a ton of dials. Mm-hmm. You can dial the SHA sheet, which I mean, it's already a three five. I don't think you dial that like I making it a three six like you did with Luna, which by the way, I think is a Nerf is Luna's a hundred percent a Nerf candidate. She should not be a three six. Oh my gosh. Yes. She was changed to a three six, just so she was like, yo, someone play this damn card. Like Seconders, like this card's good. No one's playing it. Y'all, y'all cracked play the card. It's gonna get nerfed to a three, five, a hundred percent. Right? Uh, but anyways, that's a whole other conversation. But with Shachi specifically, you can buff Shachi. If you really had to, you could change the way the card starts in his hand, which would be. Very significant. You'd have power taken off Shachi. You can change the power of the actual 10 rings card. You can change how much it buffs. You could change how much this buffs the power on this. Like there are so many avenues for them to make adjustments. But what really stands out to me is that probably the best opening deck. Like I'm gonna cope with Surfer for sure, and we'll talk about that in a sec. But it's so straightforward to see why with, uh. With, uh, Lau that this is just a fantastic card because you're gonna be wanting to play multiple cards per turn. You play CLIA on turn one, right? Mm-hmm. You can buff the CLIA on turn two with the rings that come down like the original ring. Not this one, not the buff one. Hold on. I'm, I'm trying to find all the, the stuff here. I'm, I'm trying to manage a little too much here at once. And then we got, you know, you Buff Clay, you get the, uh, the flames of the fault team to your hand, and then you can start playing those flames in unique ways. And then on turn four, you can actually unlock the potential while playing the flames, all of which is pumping lau. So like, I don't know, for me it's like you have an amazing season pass card, which is definitely carrying the rest of these cards, like Lockheed on itself, still convinced Lockheed's animation's a bug, whatever. You have Lockheed. It's weird. Yeah. Lockheed gets carried by Shala. Shala is carrying the entire meta. I don't see it being different for Shachi. I think that a hundred percent with the bus happening to cla clay's, uh, flames of ine activating sha la you could end up in a situation where the best version of Shala is gonna have shachi in it. There is a chance that that happens, but I don't think that like a Surfer deck with Hunchy will ever overperform what, uh, sh la is doing.

notmydance: 33:01

Yeah, there's, I mean, what current sh la is doing is I think very good. And sh la is a card that I think is a Nerf candidate that probably won't get hit this upcoming week. Maybe it does opium, but it's probably won't, and whenever it does get hit, I feel like a lot of the other stuff will get brought down or brought up as adjusted. But I think you're, I do think that there's an interesting world where you can mess with a. Weird hy, I wanna do a weird hybrid version of Surfer is the main thing I really wanna mess with this card. Where like, you can use cards like Diamondback and Prowler and Lockheed and stuff like, and hazmat, just to be able to do both afflictions with Claya and her flames. And also be able to, by the way, great great variant as well as just buff up the other cards that you want to, with the rings, like a, uh, like Captain Carter, like Maverick, like obviously, oh. Fast and Shaw, that's the guy. Stuff like that where it's just you have a, you can do a weird combo thing in terms of buffing up stuff and also hitting everything down. That's it, that's gonna be cool. And I hope it's a fun deck.

Alex: 34:00

Yeah. There would certainly be a space for Surfer, I think. And you're right, you hit on all the big hits there like Shaw Brood, right? Like they're fantastic, right? Maverick is gonna love taking that extra power and then redirecting it to s Shah or Brood or whatever you want to do with it, right? Definitely a hundred percent. But I don't want to gloss over how, like you, you mentioned it before, the Buff by Association, they buff Lea from a one two to a one three and the flames is a negative three power. And as like you said, you might be able to actually cook with this with the Diamondbacks or something like that. Like, I don't know if you can lean all the way into an affliction Ajax style deck, because I think that at the end of the day, like hazmat will always just be a better activator. Like it'll just, it's just easier to hazmat do like a, even like a malkuth hazmat style play. Because if Malkuth pulls something like the Shan sheet, that kind of feels bad. I think it would anyways. But, uh, I dunno, I'm kind curious of what you're thinking about.

notmydance: 34:56

There's I feel like it hazmat's a good enabler you could also mess with, and again, I mentioned the deck earlier and it's gonna be getting better I think pretty soon. But with Evo, with using basically potentially a Cyclops in order to the evolved cyclops, right? That does the minus, uh, one to two different cards. That's another one that you could potentially use, get the buffs up, and then you could also use card you mentioned earlier, Supreme Spider-Man, superior Spider-Man. That would be, oh, you did it too. Yes. That's, it's not my fault. Your Kirkland shirt distracted me. But I feel like that that's another fun place where you could be able to do interesting things with this card because then you do have the built-in, necessity for it. But the other thing, I think the last other place that you could really look at with, or maybe not the last, but at least in one of the other ones that I don't think we've mentioned yet would be Wiccan, right? Because this, it does give you a guaranteed card on two. If you throw a quick Silver in there, you're guaranteed to have a hit on one. And depending on how many three drops you have, you could still get some pretty big,

Alex: 35:50

Pretty big amounts of points on the board. No, there's no question. I think that, like, how do I explain this? I feel like this card is probably now gonna underperform. I think that the first week of deck building's gonna be fun and interesting, but I'm not convinced it's going to produce like a meta shaking deck until I feel like this could be a card like three weeks from like the release, someone somewhere cooks an absolute beauty and it's likely gonna be some form of clea affliction xi master of rings based deck with uh, lau. And then it's gonna, it's gonna cook and people are gonna be like, damn, I shoulda got that card. I just think that it blocking a draw. That's rough. It's a major change to the power level of this card. And they've discussed how, like they've had like, well just like Spider-Man noir, these like Quest based cards. Now this isn't really a quest, but it kind of is. It's like a mini quest to some degree. Yeah, it's a side quest and sometimes the ask is not worth the reward. Like, you know, magic going to World of Warcraft and you gotta, you know, kick seven boars and you go and you kick seven boars and like you get the reward. You're like, man, I had to travel all the way across ARO to do that mission and you're giving me six gold, or whatever it is. I don't know if that, is that a lot? It might be. It's bronze and Silver, gold. Yeah. That would've been a lot. No, you get like 50 Silver, like this is useless. What a waste of my time. And you're upset. And sometimes like, that's what like some of the, the missions have felt like in Snap, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Spiderman Noir was a great example of that. You're jumping through so many hoops and if you pull it off it's great, but usually you're not. Right. The first mission card ever, was that Mr. Negative? Maybe? I'm not sure, but uh, but this one's still a mission was like.

notmydance: 37:29

I'm gonna say ksu, I think was one of the first mission cards out there.

Alex: 37:33

You don't feel like

notmydance: 37:34

he,

Alex: 37:34

you don't think negative is

notmydance: 37:36

negative, just requires you to build your deck. That's kind it. That's true. It's like, it's kind of just like the deck building requirement, whereas I think with KSU had the thing of like, Hey, discard this a bunch of times and discard something else in order to get a payoff.

Alex: 37:49

Yeah. That you're, you're right. Can't you, in the card itself is more of a mission as opposed to Yeah. I have to build my deck with a specific mission in mind, I guess is what, which is what negative is. Yeah. That's, yeah.

notmydance: 38:01

Yeah. It's, it's interesting how so much more focused deck building has become nowadays because I feel like. I dunno, like a year or two ago when you first look at a deck that has like a bunch of different combos or whatever you would, you're like, okay, this needs to focus obviously. But you know, back when we were first playing or whatever, you'd be like, okay, cool, yeah, you've got all these different outs, you can play with all this stuff. But as we get more and more cards that really focus what you're trying to do with each and every deck, it really makes it a lot harder to, just play a spread out strategy, play out, play to multiple outs. Because why would you do that when all you could get all these other payoffs where, why, why would I try to play, weird payoffs with Shang Q, master of the Rings when I could just, you know, put in just the other good cards with there, right? Like Clay will be, I think, phenomenal with this. You have the chance for both Maverick and like you said, you also have the chance with, uh, spa and it's just brood. All this stuff that just feels like it would work already. It's gonna be interesting how much narrower this card really becomes.

Alex: 39:01

You touched on one of my biggest frustrations in Marvel Snap as a whole, without even realizing it. And I should have brought it up before, like you touched on one of the things that I feel. But I have a hard time articulating, playing to your oats. It's something I do in every, I play way too many card games. I play riff bound, I play magic, I play lna. I've, I cannot wait for Cyberpunks. TCGI play way too many card games. Marvel Snap. You hear the Star Wars one? Cornerstone heard about that too. You think I'm not excited about that. Hell yeah. I'm excited about that. Playing to your outs is a core part of your strategy when you're playing those games, but do you know why in Marvel Snap no one cares about playing to their outs?'cause they retreat. Retreat. Yeah. Why? Why play to your outs? Why even have a strategy of playing to your outs when you can just retreat?

notmydance: 39:50

Yep. Conquest is a really cool game mode. Honestly, what makes me also miss the new version of Deadpool's Diner, where they have like the one-sided snapping. Asymmetrical

Alex: 40:01

snapping is cool. Yeah.

notmydance: 40:03

How would you, okay. How would you feel if that was like on the ladder?

Alex: 40:07

You know what, someone mentioned this in like the creator discord at some point, and I think like I, I don't quite remember the response, but it was kind of like from second there was kinda like a

notmydance: 40:19

hmm,

Alex: 40:20

like not a no, not a yes, but a. Like a, like kinda like a, like a beard twirl. Like, not, not, not a bad idea. You know,

notmydance: 40:27

they're not answering, they're not saying anything back, but they're also like, we acknowledge you. We just won't say anything here about that.

Alex: 40:34

Yeah. Very interesting idea. I honestly, I don't know. I think that it, okay, so game modes I think are fascinating'cause they can experiment with things like that. Mm-hmm. And I think that the newest version of Deadpool Diner was largely way better. Well it also had the crazy rewards and stuff, so it's kind of easy to Oh yeah. It's easy to love it for that reason, which I'm still convinced was a mistake. Some interns somewhere got canned'cause of that. There's no way they meant to give away like 10 boarders a day. But uh, anyways, I, I think that like game modes are a great spot for them to test stuff like that and gauge response and you look at their internal metrics and see how people respond, get the feedback from Reddit and from their communities and stuff. But I'm not against it. I just think that we're treating as somebody who plays a way too many card games way too. I have cardboard everywhere. Um, it, it really does take an element out of what should be a, I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna make like a momentous comeback. My opponent is going to cry as I make this miraculous victory happen from nothing. And, uh, people just don't even give themselves a chance'cause they just retreat. We're not even talking about Sean Chin anymore. We're just, we don't, we gotta move on to the next topic. I think if you wanna talk about some of the major surprises.

notmydance: 41:44

Sure. Yeah. I'd be happy to talk about some of the surprises this season. There's a lot of fun stuff.

Alex: 41:48

There are so many cards that have honestly been tremendous surprises and a lot of them are cards that you definitely have in your collection. I shouldn't say that. I just made it engagement.'cause there's gonna be a lot of people that don't have these cards actually. Well, there you go.

notmydance: 42:00

That was actually, wow. It would be a shame if everyone commented right now all the cards, they didn't have that that I was about to show off right now. That'd be crazy if everyone below commented that.

Alex: 42:08

And it's, you know, I'm such a clown. The reason, what baited me to say that was because we've brought up this card a bunch of times already today, but I have to talk about the reemergence of high evolutionary. Mm-hmm. And, um, it's'cause it's such an old card. I was like, you definitely have this card. But it is a series five. It's a series five still. I, I think we've now hit the point where there's more series five cards than series three. I think we've crossed the threshold. I think

notmydance: 42:30

we've recently hit it. If not all. If not, we're hitting it very soon. Yeah.

Alex: 42:34

Yay. It's are we supposed to celebrate that? I don't, are we supposed to laugh or we supposed to cry?

notmydance: 42:41

It's more cards. I don't know. Did you I've, I, who was it? I think, uh, I saw on it was Glaser Hold. Someone did a thing recently or a while. I don't remember where. But like, they talked about all these cards and apparently with Snap packs you can get, if you're buying, I think the season pass, you can become series five complete. Just over time. Apparently someone did the, someone did all the math on that stuff. And you can just, like, just by buying the packs, because there's like guaranteed, apparently like mi, if you miss enough times on those packs, you're guaranteed to get a certain, like a series four or five or whatever after a certain point. So you can get more and more of those like cards for just basically for free eventually getting out to it. Like it's not as bad as Nexus events'cause I was never there for that, but I saw people talking about it. Uh, it's not as bad as I, I didn't like the Spotlight cash system because I, I rolled low on those so many times. I know I'm, I do like this system, but also, sorry, I got distracted as I do. High evolutionary is a really cool card. Sorry, I get so distracted.

Alex: 43:45

It is, it is. Yeah. High yield is fantastic and, uh, I'm, I'm trying to think about, like, I gotta hunt down where the, the math is done. Usually if, if math is being done, I go to Lauren's Twitter first. I'll try to, I I'll see if

notmydance: 43:54

I can find it and send it to you after this. Yeah,

Alex: 43:56

yeah. But anyways, uh, so yeah, so high evolutionary is actually legit now and to the point where it's, it's okay. It's only seeing still like 3% of the Medi-Share. But in my top decks of the week, I gave it number two under she lao I think it's really good. You have variants of it running like 58% win rates upwards, right? On aggregate, like the most popular versions with a 3,100 sample size on untapped is running a 56% win rate. Point three two cubes. Very positive. And what you're seeing here though is those buffs to like Misty Night, shocker Cyclops. Like they all got buffed. And it's funny'cause I actually had someone comment me like, well Alex, like abominations kind of the key part of those decks if you're playing scorp and everything with S score abomination didn't get buffed. Like why is it because abomination was actually low key, always really good. Oh yeah. Like it was always really good. And now you have the Hulk. That's a six 14 too actually for, forgot about the Hulk. Hulk is a six 14, right? Like there are so many reasons to play high Evo like this. This card wask could probably get brought back to her original form when she does negative one to two cards. But they buffed pretty much everything here. It's been so long since I got to see the shocker animation boom. Right? It's so good. There you go. And

notmydance: 45:09

uh, I think things, another one you could probably get a, get a bit of love could go back to his like first ability or whatever perhaps. Yeah. These cards are fun. Not, it's such a good, this is, if there's ever like a deck I recommend for newer players, it's always high evolutionary because you have most of the cards in this deck as like starting cards. Yeah. So this is just a great pile because you could just basically run all the cards that you already have and then you could, and then you just get to play a full, basically functioning deck. I mean, high evolutionary is also just so much fun.

Alex: 45:43

Yeah. So cool. And for what it's worth, the version of the thing,'cause it used to like. It was a four six and it got changed to a four seven, but it was a four six that could afflict one card three times. Yes. Now it spreads the power, which sounds like a Nerf'cause they have to have three cards for it to get the maximum power out of it. But it actually makes it better for abomination'cause you're spreading the negative duff, which discounts the abomination more effectively. So it's like a Nerf buff. And one thing that's okay, I always talk about the VO decks. Havo is one of my absolute favorite archetypes in the world. Low key, absolute winner in those types of decks is going, apparently I can't type. Nebula is amazing. And the reason why Nebula is so good in these decks is because you play Nebula and it encourages players to play into that location that you then follow up with a cyclops and you have targets for the Cyclops to Pew P The only thing with Nebula right now is you're seeing lots of shola with kitty pride, which is getting popular'cause of kitty pride. Athena variation of Shala is kind of getting big. And uh, kitty pride takes a massive, massive. Massive dump on Nebula.

notmydance: 46:47

It. She really does. It's, yeah, it's very unfortunate, but it also, what it also gives you a really cool way that you can play to your, to your outs. Oh, what was it? It was in, I feel like it was Sanctum Showdown or some, some game mode recently That was, I've, I really liked being able to use, oh no, it was, um, the Team Clash one where we had the Guardian deck. I loved being able to use both Nebula and I also used Viv and Adam Morelock as ways to be like, all right, cool. Don't play to these locations. Like, I'd stack all of them in one spot and say, don't play here, please. And then they would, and I'd just be able to use the cool Guardians, which were better than the current ones that we have in the game. And yeah, Nebula is an awesome card. Feels it? It's forever ago that I feel like she was busted. But now we just have so many more options for one drops,

Alex: 47:28

for fear of stealing all your, these cards are cool surprises. I'll allow you to throw a couple out here.

notmydance: 47:35

I feel like it's, I don't even know how much of a true surprise in the end it is, but I, I'm just continually shocked by how good Ham has felt this season. Spider

Alex: 47:45

ham. Spider ham.

notmydance: 47:46

Yeah. Spider ham feels like a card that it's not even, I don't even know how much of a surprise it's,'cause I feel like this change happened a bit ago, but I think this season he really came into his own as, and has felt absolutely just like a powerhouse to deal with because it's just, I don't, maybe it's more like we have more skills or spells or whatever. And so it just does hurt so much more that he just says character. But it's, gosh, I'm so tired of a winking.

Alex: 48:13

It's hilarious. I almost wish that like,'cause you have to click on the car to like, to see if it's gotten oinked. I liked when it just turned into the piggy. I don't know why they ever changed that. Like the piggy used to be front facing. Now the piggy's on the back. Which is kind of weird, but apparently

notmydance: 48:29

for what? It's the, I don't know if you saw Griffin actually talked about that very recently inside of the team Answers area. He said that it should always be doing the pig, but it's a bug right now, I think where it only does the pig if you, if it hits a base version of the card, but it should be doing it to all cards. Yeah. Yeah. You talk, you just talked about that. It was like spider Haim should be changing the art to a pig on all cards, but you, but there is a bug where it only affects base card art. Right now, a fix is scheduled for a future build.

Alex: 48:58

Oh my gosh. Are you telling me that Marvel

notmydance: 49:01

Snap has bugs that I know you may not be aware of this with? I don't know. Try activating anything. Try playing Mysterio with any new card. Just try clicking on other people's

Alex: 49:12

cards. The game just dies.

notmydance: 49:14

Try clicking on the game for that

Alex: 49:15

matter, or out of it for a bit. Yeah. Try doing anything. Try playing a cart. I, um, oh, try to end your turn. It might, like, literally every single video I release, it's filled with me encountering bugs, like usually me getting kicked out. Mm-hmm. And be like, rejoining the game last. There was a game where like, I literally couldn't have my turn and my opponent's like giving me like the miss, like the missed minutes. I'm like, I can't, like I'm clicking it. It's not, there's no wave for me to end my turn. So I just kept roping and of course that ended up being one of the highlights for the video. And I had to be like, just so you know, I'm not roping this person to be a clown. I literally cannot end the turn. Like, I'm sorry. Right. But, uh, I came back with Spider m with Aurora. I was playing Aurora. Yes. And, uh, it's an, it's an activate inexpensive in any card that does like the plus two buffs to multiple things. Having multiple small cards everywhere. It disproportionately benefits from that plus two. Right. So I wanted inexpensive cards. Spider Hamm works perfectly. It's one cost. Then for end of turn, I had stuff like Marvel Boy. So yeah, spider Hamm a hundred percent hit us with another one.

notmydance: 50:16

It's, I don't even know how much of a surp like it's, we're, we're further in the season, so it's not a surprise anymore. But if you told me that if you told me last month that 2026 would start off with Scarlet Spider dominating the meta, I wouldn't have believed you.

Alex: 50:32

You know what, this is for me, the biggest Miss I did not fully app. Someone mentioned it to me. It was not like, not in the conversation, someone in the comments had said, yo show Lau and Scarlet Spider though. And I remember reading that and being like, yeah, that's probably pretty good. Unlikely to be the best deck in the game, but seems like a pretty good idea. And then sure enough, I'm like. Then like literally after playing she lao and waiting, I don't know, 30 minutes. I was like, oh, why didn't I make a like the Scarlet Spider synergy is so good. And you have Joe Costa as well. It's like, why did I, I just glossed over it. But there it is, like there's the best deck in the meta and it's just like, you just, it was right in front of you and you just didn't even notice. Damn it, Alex, you gotta pay more attention. It's,

notmydance: 51:21

that's the cool part. Like, listen, there are about 5 million bugs that exist in this game, but that's a really cool thing I do love about Marvel Snap and Second Di, like the bounce scene behind it. They take cards like Scarlet Spider who have existed in the worst place since release, and all of a sudden make them a meta dominant card, a year or two after they first come out. And it is just like, oh yeah, cool. This card's amazing now. And you're like, oh really? I just think that's cool. I hate it. And it's cool.

Alex: 51:49

That's exactly the same thing. Not for Mr. Well, I'm just clicking on self by accident. That's exact same thing for Domino, uh mm-hmm. Like domino, like you're talking about a card that was completely useless. Quicksilver makes a comeback with Wiccan, but still, even then you're like no. Domino's too garbage to play. Even if you want wic. Mm-hmm. Just add more two drops Now. Unironically Domino seeing play as a two four. I actually don't play much Domino. I still have a hard, maybe it's'cause I'm, I'm so old school. It's like I can't play Domino. I wanna draw cards eventually. Right. Like, you gotta draw cards eventually. Right. But, uh, yeah, that's a great example of, uh, of aging, like fine wine as we, as we like to say around here. I can throw one out there.

notmydance: 52:25

There's, I think you should.

Alex: 52:27

Okay. I mentioned when I actually pitched this topic to you, I was like, yo, I want this topic just'cause I wanna talk about one specific card. It is Dragon Lord man. Dragon Lord. Mm-hmm. Is running a 13% meta share as a free to play friendly release released in a game mode. And at worst it was 800 gold in what you played. Three games to unlock it, right? If you really didn't wanna gauge game mode much, this card is actually really good. And it's, I was playing, uh, fing Fang Fume with a electro ramp deck with Dragon Lord in it. I actually had grandmaster so I could grandmaster the dragon Lord.'cause I thought that was hilarious. And it was really fun when you have a whole bunch of chunkies in your hand. But long story short, dragon Lord is probably of all the cars this season, the biggest surprise for me, because this was a card that most people were like, eh, whatever. Who cares? Eh. It's kind of poo. Who cares about that limited time game mode card. Look at all these serious, look at Sean G. Look at Dragon. Lord, this card is sick. I love it.

notmydance: 53:27

No, it's, this also just feels like a card that when I first read this ability, I. Oh yeah. This isn't just on like a base card, right? I guess we kind of have it with who is it? The Infinity Ultron has it on his Greenstone, so we've kind of had it for a bit, but not like actually as like a real card you could play. And it just makes perfect sense. Like, why wasn't this in the game already? This feels like a card that if I opened the game as like a, I don't know, my very first time playing it back in 20 20, 23 or beta times, whenever that was, this would just be a card I expect to see. It just has a very simple text, very nothing complicated. You just get it and you're like, okay. Yeah. And it's just fun.

Alex: 54:06

Yeah, no, it is. It is a really good legit card. And again, like Fing Fang FI think benefits from the fact that. Honestly, war machine ramp is really good. Like pulling this from a jubilee is kind of wild. Like jubilee into Dragon Lord into pole is kind of fun. I like the idea of like, you can even blink this honestly. Pull fang, pull, ot, whatever. Like there are so many cool things you can do with this card to the point where it's like, huh, basic text series four, limited time, game mode, borderline, like, everyone's like just glossing over it might actually be one of the most meta relevant cards released. Like there's a good chance that come two months from now. People aren't talking about Lockheed, they're still upset about the Nerf to, you know, show, uh, show Lao, but they're still playing Dragon Lord. This might be the card that actually survives the season in terms of its meta relevance long term.

notmydance: 55:02

No, I definitely think it will, like, this feels like a card that is just, it just feels completely fine. It doesn't feel like it needs to cha, it just feels like a very. I dunno. Just like classic. It's weird that this is the first time I've seen this card, right? First season, but I also al already wanna say this is just a classic Marvel Snap card, right? It just feels, this just feels direct, like one of the most at-home cards in the game in comparison to like, if you try to look at zombie galatis text, who now has like four lines.'cause it's so many words, you just can't see it really or read it anymore in comparison. It's just, God, I just like the card. It's cool.

Alex: 55:32

One thing I will say that really bothers me about this card, like really bothers me about the card is, um, that's not a mask. I understand that like, you know, I'm relatively new to comic books and everything and I'm just starting to catch up with reading comics books. I'm, I'm reading, uh, you know, uh, alpha Flight, I'm reading, you know, uh, the, uh, the House of X and everything. Okay. But like, this guy's like, oh, I'm Dragon Lord, but I gotta keep my identity. I'm gonna put like four lines across my face and maybe no one will know who I am. Like this is, I don't know man, this just come on a little more effort on the, uh, the face mask I think would've been beneficial. It worked for the Incredibles. It could work here.

notmydance: 56:09

Right? The Incredibles, they you look at them just as the, like, if you just saw'em from behind, you'd be like, oh yeah, cool. That's the Incredibles. You turn around and they're not wearing masks. You're like, I don't know who, who that is. It's the, the Superman thing. Right. He put puts on his glasses. You have no idea. It's, uh, it's Superman, not Clark Kent or whatever. Vice versa.

Alex: 56:24

It's true. That's right. The Incredibles, right? It's like, oh, that's just my insurance salesman or whatever. Then it's like, yeah. Wait a minute. Yeah. It's Mr. Incredible. The, I have one more, but is there another one you wanted to mention?

notmydance: 56:35

I don't even know if it's a surprise, but I'm just, I like the card. I like kitty pride and, uh, it's not a surprise that it's been amazing with shoe lau. Right. That's what people were thinking about. Yeah. But it's also just a really cool card that I've enjoyed for a while and I'm happy that it's that she has come back in any way, shape, or form.

Alex: 56:54

No. Absolutely. I I love this card too. And it was funny with Cam, we were kind of like lamenting over how the original Kitie pride on first release, where you got to actually pull her back to your hand and she gave plus two and it was so broken. It was so stupid. Um, but yeah, kitty pride's very, oh yeah. That was the one that was just

notmydance: 57:10

broken entirely. Yeah. I never actually, actually brought the game to its knees. Yeah. Yeah. I never got a chance to play. I never even got the chance to play with that one. I actually remember it was, I don't remember when that was, when this car released, but I actually remember watch I watching your VAD of your stream because I was like, I never got to see this car. What does this do? And just get just I don't remember what your reaction was, but I just remember you just bust in laughing with the Yeah. This broken card?

Alex: 57:34

Yeah. So back in the day, uh, when, when Kitty Pride broke Marvel Snap, it's like when bugs, like they've bugs got fixed. They're like, oh, we gotta take that outta the game. And then the game stopped crashing. Now it just crashes and crashing is part of life, man. Like I got, but I was trying to play Marvel Snap on my phone. I dunno if you guys know this popular form, uh, phone game. It like, will lag so bad. I'm like, bro, like my phone's not that old. It's a Pixel eight pro. Like, and it lags to the point where I'm like, yeah, I can't even play. I restart my phone. It still lag. And I realize that like, it's actually lowkey like downloading assets. Yes. It doesn't tell you. I'm like, come on man. Like, I, I just, the amount of people that would just be like, what is wrong with this game? I can play like Elden ring on my phone and it not leg like this. Obviously there's no elden ring port, but right. It's just Marvel Snap performance and the bugs. They gotta fix it, man. It's so rough.

notmydance: 58:24

I want them there. I feel like there used to be a thing right at the bottom of your screen, it would say, say like downloading assets or whatever. Like it'd give you like a little bar that like went through as time went on and I don't see that anymore. And I feel like they, I dunno what happened to it, but I remember that bar being there whenever like a patch would happen.'cause you redownload a bunch of assets, they fixed it somewhat there, but like, I dunno, just gimme a button to download everything there just so I can leave my phone for a moment. I know it's just downloading stuff so it stops lacking.'cause if it, because as soon as that happens I've seen a other people deal with it where I'm like, okay, I just have to stop playing for a second. But that sucks. Who wants to stop playing a game because of that? Like, whatever an update happens for on the actual like client on the computer, I, what I do is I have to scroll through. I like turn every, all the like the cards super tiny and then I scroll through all of them super fast so it forces it them all to load. Then just walk away from my computer.'cause I, again, it just needs to load. I just wish there was a button to load everything so it stopped that lag.

Alex: 59:13

There are so many bugs, man. There's so many bugs. Yeah. And um, yeah, I'm just saying that like. A card game should not lag a like 2-year-old phone into oblivion to the point where a content creator's like, yeah, I can't even use my phone to play the game. It's pretty rough. The last one I wanna shut out here, which I know people are gonna be like, are you coping? But I'm not because if you actually dig into the stats, if you really dig into the free to play stats and some of Tron Unironically has a pretty solid win rate. You're talking like a 55 to 56% win rate. He is surprisingly playable because there are variations of Tron that'll just run like Tron Patriot with like Misty nights and stuff like that. And it's surprisingly good. It's one of those things where like we often forget that like he, he did get buffed. The drones are one twos technically you have Patriot got buffed as well. But I think that's Tron realistically is actually probably a relatively good viable path for free to play players to get a decent deck to climb towards infinite.

notmydance: 1:00:13

Oh yeah. Tron is an absolutely great deck for one. And one of the nice things about the deck is that it also like bots, if they notice how much the board is currently winning. And so if you're just getting everything ready for Antron, they oftentimes don't realize that. And so they will like Snap you and be more aggressive and you can just drop an tron and sweep the board in the final turn. They're not ready for it. But in addition to that, it is, if you've got, if you played it into a lane and you've got all the other spots that are empty, it's, this is a 6 24 if I'm not mistaken, right? Because that's just two po, two points in each of the spots. Not even counting Patriot Mystique Ultra, uh, was it Blue Marvel Caar, who's probably, I think, the worst card out of all those ongoing, like just, it's a lot of points. It's really good. People should definitely be using this guys, but we just don't because we like looking at the new shiny thing, even if it's gonna be Shang Qi, master of the Rings, which by way, what did you rank that card?

Alex: 1:01:07

Um, I, it's funny I was leaning like 4.5 prior to the confirmation that now stuffs the hand. I'm like I wanna say that I, I bet you it'll end up at a four, but like a le like an unenthusiastic four, like I think Fang Fu is probably ultimately gonna be a clearer victor, but I feel like Shanxi will still likely find a place. And if, if we can make that CLIA interaction work or that Surfer interaction work, I'm less convinced Surfer is gonna be the place. But if we can make that CLIA interaction work with Lau, then I would suspect it's probably gonna be meta playable. But the question that becomes Will Shachi Overperform the best versions of lau? Probably not, because the best versions of schlau are unlikely to play Shachi, so it'll probably fall to the Wade side. So I think that as a card, it's likely to be in like the three to four star range.

notmydance: 1:01:59

Yeah, that's fair. I feel like you, maybe you said it earlier. I don't, I just didn't remember it.

Alex: 1:02:02

I don't think I said it honestly. And that's gonna take us to the Snapchat mailbag,'cause we got a couple questions here and I think they're pretty interesting. The first not my dance is from Chris Dove who says, how about making master mold an end of turn, add a sentinel to your opponent's hand. I've been a advocate for making adjustments to master mold. I'd like the idea of master mold getting buffed for every sentinel in the field of play, but if you want to add a little more end of turn, hotness to Marvel Snap, this might be a way to do that.

notmydance: 1:02:34

I feel like if it was with like Adam Warlock, right, or if you're winning here at the end of the turn, you'd do that. I feel like that could be fair. Otherwise, it feels very good. Like potentially way too good. But I still, I'm, I'm down from mastermind. Being more playable. It can be a rough archetype. This is the, that was the, this was from the super expensive bundle. Why do you gonna

Alex: 1:02:53

shame me like that? This is when, Hey, I bet it too. I was like, listen, I don spend the money. Yeah. I don't wanna spend the money, but like. It was a Kim CIN at the time. Mm-hmm. I was like, I just got it. And at the time there was exclusivity too. Like you couldn't, they didn't have the collector's a vault or whatever the hell it's called. Mm-hmm. And that's, I don't wanna miss this card from, is it? I Oh, that's where you, yes, that's where I got it from. Yeah.'cause you would never, I didn't pay$140 buy for it. You wouldn't

notmydance: 1:03:19

pay off no haw, no.$156

Alex: 1:03:23

Canadian plus tax. I did not do that.

notmydance: 1:03:26

Did you do the thing where it, where you could download how much money you spent in the game? You see that

Alex: 1:03:30

people were doing that? I did. I looked at it. It wasn't as bad as I thought, but it's also bad. But like, yeah, I have, I know friends who are content creators that have done way worse

notmydance: 1:03:39

Way worse. I'm scared I haven't done it yet. I don't know if I ever will, but I'm terrified of it. I don't wanna see that anyway. Uh, if it's end of term where it's like, if you're winning this location, add a sentinel to your opponent's hand, I think that'd be a very cool idea. I think that'd be probably a fair place. It would probably have to lose. Its two, three, probably would've to be a three. Three there. But it's a cool card i'd. I would like it.

Alex: 1:04:00

They're probably waiting honestly, to see how dragon of the Moon shapes up to see if like they did buff this significantly. And if this isn't good enough, then maybe they start looking at the supporting characters to see if an archetype of the this Ronan hand generation disruption makes sense, right? Because this is technically help for master mold. It's buffing by association, not my dance. The problem with this card is you have to run so many bad cards for this to be good. Are you telling me that master mold is bad? Are you telling me that Baron is bad? Come on. What kind of cope is this?

notmydance: 1:04:34

I saw those, you know, they do the new season video, whatever, and I saw like, great cards work with Dragon to the Moon, master Mold Baron Mordo you the, the, the, I've never tuned out of a conversation. So yeah. Crystal, yeah. Like, okay, cool. These meta relevant titans. Yeah. Okay, cool. I'm definitely doing that.

Alex: 1:04:50

I mean, Crystal's way dumber than even Baron. Like, crystal doesn't even make sense, but like you could make the ar like unironically. Do you remember how it used to like draw the cart into their hand with Baron? Yes. Actually better with dragging the Moon because you get a six cost drawn into their hand that you can then steal from. Maybe, I dunno, the worst,

notmydance: 1:05:07

not even worse, but like the most copious thing I think I saw with Dragon of the Moon was people playing Wave and then rather than using a big card, then they just play Dragon of the Moon. I don't understand why anyone would'cause it makes, uh, wave would make it, everything else. Four. Oh, I see. That's

Alex: 1:05:23

actually hilarious. That's actually not I doing not crazy.

notmydance: 1:05:27

Yeah. No, but I tried using AV with the goblins as well because that also turns them into even Costors. It wasn't good either, but I was it.

Alex: 1:05:36

At least that's cooking. This will master bowl. We gotta bring up Master Bowl once in a while. Yeah, we gotta bring Master Bowl up once in a while. Uh, this next question from targeting says, Hey Alex, mailbag. Question for you. Do you think the Snap team will release a draft mode this year? If so, are there any features you want to see with it? I've always loved playing her stone arena and wanted something similar for Snap. I've taken a break from playing Snap, so I've been outta the loop for some months now, so I'm hoping the game is improving. Two things I wanna mention on my dance. One, the amount of people that tell me they're not playing but they still watch Snap content is remarkably high. I think you have a lot of fans out there, second dinner that like love your game, but they're just waiting for the next, the next phase, the next iteration of Marvel Snap to wow them because they wanna come back, but they need a reason to come back. As for the draft mode, one can certainly hope that 2026 is the year of Marvel Snap Draft. We've even hinted on the Snapchat in the past where like some cards, like these dual effect cards like Wild Child and stuff like that almost set up like an opportunity to be better in something like a draft mode. I certainly hope, and as to what features I wanna see, I just wanna see the mode. I hope they're cooking'cause I would love to see a draft mode in Marvel Snap.

notmydance: 1:06:48

It's so I, I want a draft mode, but I think that one of the things they said forever ago about draft mode is the thing I feel like I most agree with, where it's like we want draft mode, but we also wanna make sure that it's an interesting mode. It's not just something that's just cool. We threw some stuff just as a draft thing together, which like there are websites that do that and they're fine, but I understand wanting to put more polish in the game. I feel like the biggest thing if they did a draft mode and it's a weird thing to want, but I hope that if they do that there, you know how some of the game modes let you draw like two cards a turn or whatever. I hope in the end it lets you draw your entire deck for the most part. Or maybe just like one or two cards, not because I want to use more of those drafted cards because for one, you're gonna have less cards that work together, so you're gonna want more things. And for two, I also do just want to be able to like use those cards that I'm going to be drafted. I don't want'em just to have to sit there in the deck or sit there and never draw them because I don't know if I try to play with a new card on release day, that's the one time it decides to hide in my deck for the first like hour of gameplay or whatever. Just loves hiding from me for some dang reason. But I dunno. That's the thing I feel like I want most out of it, is just give me a gimme. Just a lot of options to use and play these cards if we're drafting'em, if I'm spending the time doing this, which is, I don't know if that's a weird thing to ask, but that's where I'm really, that's where I sat. Sat with it.

Alex: 1:08:05

No, not a weird thing at all. I, thinking about it, there's a couple things. Like I wonder first of all, I think that one of the challenges is that like they see feedback from like high voltage overdrive, which has like a mini draft mode in it because they give you random cards and people were like. The cards don't matter. Like everything sucks. These decks don't matter, blah, blah blah. So like the people say they want draft mode at the same time. They don't like, like the randomness of getting random stuff. So that's one thing. But obviously draft mode and high voltage overdrive, very different things.'cause there's no player agency, right? There's no agency in the high voltage overdrive. Whereas there's agency in what you're selecting, giving this a lot of thought. Like, I wonder if like. Oh man.'cause no one wants to play like suboptimal bad decks necessarily. But at the same time, I wonder if there's like a route where it's like almost like a roguelike, like, you know, you, you win a game and then like you can trans mod cards into like more synergistic pieces. And the further you imagine like an infinite ladder, not infinite ladder, imagine like infinity conquest. And as you go up the conquest ladder, you're able to like trans cards, like open another pack and trans mug your deck. So you can actually make it more synergistic over time. Like it starts scuffed, but then you get chances to improve it over as you kind of move on. That could be fun. Uh, or you can like draft packages, right? You could draft like an an nihilist package. You can draft a duff package with like hazmat, malki, Ajax. Instead of doing individual cards, you draft these packages and then you merge the packages together. There's ways they can do it. I think.

notmydance: 1:09:29

There's

Alex: 1:09:29

also

notmydance: 1:09:29

the whole thing of like you have to have enough energy because with in the way that everything will be balanced, right? Typically you want a few different one drops and you don't want as many high end cards, but there are a lot of high costed cards in this game and if you've got too many then it's, you can't play'em. And so that's good. I feel like that's a whole other thing where it's like, okay, cool, you just draft a really bad deck and now you have to have all these high cost cards you can't play. I like the shout though of like being able to change the deck as it goes on, like doing a mini infinity conquest thing as conquest is, right? It's a game mode where you retreat two, you hide to if you're tired, people retreating, but at the same time it really feels like one of the most underdeveloped areas in Snap. I say that as we talk about the other bugs everywhere. I saw, I heard a comparison once online where it's like conquest mode feels like a project that someone else at the company. Was working on. And then that person left the company and no one else wants to take hold of that project anymore. And I feel like that's just where conquest is nowadays. It just, and we get all these cool different game modes, like even draft at some point, which would be awesome if it came in 2026. But it's, I dunno, it's so unfortunate.

Alex: 1:10:35

Conquest mode out, draft mode in conquest. Tickets change to, or draft mode tickets in the, uh, collection track problem solved. Like honestly,'cause I don't want conquest tickets Miss me with that crap. Mm-hmm. I still don't open my boxes'cause I don't wanna see those stupid tickets. If you're gonna gimme those tickets, make them worth more than like five boosters please. Because like it's borderline insulting to open those. I, I don't, it's so frustrating. But anyways, yeah. Honestly, if you want like arena tickets or something like that, put'em in the back. Get, get rid of the conquest tickets. Conquest is dead weight.

notmydance: 1:11:09

What if those gold tickets were just like, they worked for any game mode, like those game modes that all have tickets. What if the gold tickets that you're getting in those little, in the, in your things or whatever, they're the same ones for everything. Okay, cool. I be able to play showdown. That's it. That's it. You just, you put it, you put'em. They work for everything.

Alex: 1:11:26

That's the answer. Imagine those tickets just being like to like vouchers, game mode vouchers. Yeah.

notmydance: 1:11:31

Yeah. Which you run out of game mode of con of conquest.

Alex: 1:11:34

Game modes. You run out of BS and then you use one of the vouchers and you get more bs. Oh, you did it. You solved it. That's, that's it. I hope someone's listening. That's such a great idea.

notmydance: 1:11:43

No one listens to this, unfortunately. Sorry. Nobody listens. That's unfortunate. Nobody listens. Ah, it's at the, on the bright side. They've, did you see the thing they're doing for the next, uh, for Sanctum Showdown where they're No, they said that they're not releasing a new card because they want people to catch up. That's nice. They're putting a, in case you didn't know, there's a, there's gonna be a seasonal series four pack, basically where a new card would be and they said, hell yeah. A new series four card will not be released with this, with the goal being to help players catch up on their collections.

Alex: 1:12:16

It's also worth noting that this season has less cards being released than prior seasons, like significantly less cards. Right. Season Mind ones 12 or 13. No, I haven't seen the data mines yet. I'm not a huge data mind enjoyer. I gotta be honest with you. I, I don't like Data Minds.

notmydance: 1:12:29

Oh, well then, nevermind. I won't tell you that there were three different Dragon related cards that all had art and stuff like that, that seemed like they were potentially gonna release this season. Sweet. I, well, I'm not telling you that. I'm not telling you that.

Alex: 1:12:39

No, you're not telling me that it's fair. You, you did not tell me that. So that's, uh, no, I would never, that's, you know, all is fair in, in love and data minds. But not my dance, I gotta tell you. Thank you so much for joining. This was so fun. This was by far one of my favorite snapshots we've done in a while. Very, uh, very nice to finally get you on. And as you can see, this is why I was so impressed with your casting and everything you've done. Uh, not only incredibly articulate, very knowledgeable, and also a ton of fun to talk to and listen to as well. Where can we find you? Because, uh, you know, we got you casting and stuff like that, but like, what about, uh, what about your social? You, you, I know you're a streamer, so why don't you shout that out for us. It's,

notmydance: 1:13:13

well, it's a really difficult one to remember. If you haven't seen it below me the whole time, it's just not my dance. No space, nothing like that. It's just not my dance. Uh, and you'll find me playing Marvel Snap. You'll find me. You'll find videos over on my YouTube channel about Marvel Snap. And I also, I still do variety stuff because I like playing games that I think are fun and people can enjoy multiple games. So I just go there. If you wanna have a, if you wanna have a good time, hang out. I'll post the decks that I really enjoy, in particular on Twitter or X or wherever you call it. And, oh, it's just, I just like having fun wherever I, wherever I am. And this was a very fun time. Thank you again for having me here. It was an absolute blast.

Alex: 1:13:47

Of course. Well, thank you so much for watching everybody, and we'll see you on that next one.