SNAPtember Card Rankings | Viv Vision’s Impact & More | The Snap Chat Ep. 147

Will Viv Vision dominate the new season? Can Warlock redefine strategy in Snap? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on the new cards? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome Back to The Snap Chat!
• 0:13 PAX West Recap: Meeting Fans and Surprises
• 4:25 Hilarious Parenting Stories
• 10:18 New Season Pass Card: Viv Vision
• 21:43 Analyzing Sparky: The New Move Card
• 28:35 Exciting New Card: Opening Hand Copy
• 29:11 Moira's Unusual Card Art
• 30:03 Combos and Synergies with Moira
• 30:18 Rating Moira: Potential and Challenges
• 31:47 Fun Card Concept: South Park Crossover
• 32:18 Analyzing Moira's Deck Compatibility
• 35:01 Introducing Bastion: New Card Analysis
• 36:08 Bastion's Potential in Different Decks
• 40:14 Jim Hammond: The New Human Torch
• 44:18 Warlock: A Game-Changing Card
• 51:49 Jocasta: Activating Other Cards
• 55:35 Awesome Andy: A New Support Card
• 57:20 Debating Card Stats and Risk Factors
• 57:48 Exploring Omega Sentinel's Potential
• 59:28 Discussing Synergies and Combos
• 1:04:47 Reviewing Super Adaptoid
• 1:08:14 Evaluating Danger's Effectiveness
• 1:09:55 Ranking the Season's Cards
• 1:12:43 Snapchat Mailbag and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Cozy: 0:00

What's going on guys? And welcome back to yet another episode of the Snapchat. We have a brand new season and a, I was gonna say brand new Alex. I don't know what that means, but after getting back from Pax West, I'm sure you feel like a brand new man buddy. Uh, how was it going out there? How was it seeing Dexter, the Snap meetup and all?

Alex: 0:18

Oh, it was fantastic, man. Like, uh, there was a lot of positive energy and uh, it's crazy like you've been to PAXs before with me, and uh, the amount of times you get stopped for people saying hello and that they play Snap or they watch the Snapchat, I got a lot of still watch the Snapchat, don't play Snap anymore, but love you guys. You, you know what I mean? It's so interesting how that works. And, uh. Yeah, it was honestly fantastic. The Snap meetup was so great. Uh, it was, it was first of all very nice to see like, uh, the people that play the game come up. And, uh, it was funny, someone had brought like a whole bunch of different cards and they asked me in Dexter to sign the one that I felt like I kind of, uh, identified with the most. And they had a whole bunch of different Marvel cards. And I ended up signing, uh, the multiple man,'cause I feel like I, take on multiple roles in my life. And so it was kind of fun and like, yeah, it was great talking to, uh, to Glenn and the team and, uh, Brady as well. Like the, the, uh, the, the entire team had second dinner is phenomenal. And actually I have a couple things. I, so at that meetup, I was so surprised by, um, someone who's in our community watched Snapchat, dapper Dave. Okay. And they had come up to me and they said, Hey Alex, I have a gift for you. And I said, what? And they handed me Cozy this, and this is, it's so heavy. It's huge. This is the omnibus. I'm trying to get that right. How Alpha it's a flight. It's an alpha flight omnibus, and it is absolutely massive. I'm trying to get the camera right here. It's absolutely massive. Oh my God. It is. All the comics featuring the, uh, the alpha flight and I can't wait to read it all. And it's so funny'cause I said I, I brought this book up to Glen. I was like, Glen, look, alpha Flight, we gotta have a season dedicated to Alpha Flight. And Glen looks at me, right? And he's like, all right Alex, I gotta, he's like, a season's 10 cards. He's like, can you name 10 cards from 10, uh, 10 heroes from Alpha Flight right now? We'll do the season. I was like, oh no, Sasquatch puck. And he's like,

Cozy: 2:05

I was gonna say there's no way.

Alex: 2:06

There's no way. I couldn't make it Ted a lot. I failed guys. Teds a lot failed. And he like, he's like, come on, Alex. Wolverine's an awful flight too. I'm like, ah,

Cozy: 2:14

dude. That's sick though. That's, that's a good time. How was the meetup in all like having, you know, the, uh, whole, whole room full of snappers.

Alex: 2:21

It, it was actually fun and it was great'cause everyone was like, uh, actually just excited to like, talk about Snap and cards and stuff. And, uh, the, uh, like the second dinner team was like interacting with, uh, people asking questions. It was funny. I heard, uh, Glen asking like, you know, just like, like players that were there, like, what do they think about this card or this car too strong or whatever. Right. And it was kind of interesting. He actually asked, he said, Hey, like, do you guys find like that misery is like, not op? And then I was like, I don't know. Right. And he's like, I think it's pretty good, to be honest with you. I was actually thinking myself too. I'm like, misery is actually one of the low key silent, like, amazing cards of Snap right now. Right. And it was so cool to see how they were like engaging with people and, uh, everyone was super nice. And then while I was on the show floor at Pax, someone else, Jonathan, he was working the cap con booth and again, loves the Snapchat. Was was, he was he was looking for you as well. Oh he gave me something really special and we're gonna do a live opening right now.

Cozy: 3:10

Okay. Okay.

Alex: 3:11

This here is, it's the cards. Oh yeah. That you can only get in China.

Cozy: 3:17

Dude, I looked for these so much when I was there to try to get some of these to, to open up. Okay, dude, crack this up. How many are, is it one? How many are in a pack?

Alex: 3:23

It's sealed. I have no idea. It's sealed. I have not opened it. I wanna make, I'm gonna open it right now and I'm gonna use scissors so I don't, oh, can I use, should I use scissors? I'm gonna use scissors just to make sure I don't damage anything.

Cozy: 3:33

Oh dude, I'm opening

Alex: 3:34

it right now for the first time. Trying to put it on camera slightly. Forget that arrow. You're

Cozy: 3:38

bringing that over for. Oh my gosh. I cut it in such

Alex: 3:40

a way where I didn't actually open it. Okay. I'm opening it right now. Let's see who it is. Alright. I'm actually so nervous. How many look in there?

Cozy: 3:49

Oh, okay. The camera's not a focus, but it's Cyclops for sure. Come on camera. Oh, that's sick. Get a camera. Like, they're like almost. Uh, it comes with the location too. That's so awesome. What the heck? It's like

Alex: 3:58

a stand and it's acrylic. It's like a hard plastic.

Cozy: 4:01

That's a good one to get too. Even though the, you know, cards. Okay. But that's, uh, man, I, I wish I could've found those man that was sick. Shout out to, uh, what was his name? What was his name? Jonathan. Jonathan. Jonathan. Oh, it comes to something

Alex: 4:12

else. It, something else just fell out. Hold on. This just fell out too. So it's not just that it was this small one too. Oh,

Cozy: 4:17

wait, there's more. That's cool, man. Look at the, yeah, it's like a little pop out thing, dude. That's perfect for like these shelves back here. I gotta get more of those, man. I find any of'em for that matter. Listen I saw a lot of those wear we're Cozy, man. I, I we are in the, we are in the end, the end game here for the, for the, the pregnancy. And I am, dude, I'm a shell of a human to paint the picture. I don't know why we decided to do this, but Alex, you are one of, you have 20, 20 kids, 25. How many approximately. We decided to do to potty training this week, bro, that's a, that's a whole level of difficulty. I've never like pressed start and changed the difficulty in life to what? That, that's fun. I mean, that's a lot of, that's a lot of, you remember the days, man, I'm sure you do.

Alex: 5:01

Oh, I remember the days, I remember the days of potty training. We're working on potty training now and it's so funny'cause like you basically have to pay them off for using the bathroom at this point. Pretty much. I mean, oh, pure. You get a stick, you use the bathroom, you get a sticker, you got five stickers, you get a toy at the dollar store

Cozy: 5:15

and it's like stuff you could only like imagine in the, the chaos of it all. So my son, you know, he is still learning, like number one, he is got down number two, we're working on it. We're working on number two. Right. So he, he, he does the de he he's just pooping on the floor. Just pooping on the floor. So my wife's like, he's pooping we gotta clean up. So she's, she's cleaning it up. Right. She's also cooking breakfast. Right. So she's got, she's got the sausage cooking on the, so as she is pulling the shorts down, she gets poop on her hand. And it is, you know, you can't have poop on the hand. Not, I never, I was gonna say, not for a pregnant woman. Never can have poop on the hand. She sprays the chemicals on the floor Okay. To, to clean up the stuff. But she's gotta go wash the number two off her hand. So she yells at me. The sausage is burning. Sausage is. This is wood floor, Alex, I'm booking it. I'm doing my best 40 time for the stove, booking it, bro. Just, and I, when I hit that chemical on the floor that she did not get the chance to wipe up. I did the most Loony Tunes, cartoon network slip, like slow, slow motion land in the poop. And I was like, this is being a dad. This is right here. This just in ca, this is why I'm not at PAX West, uh, for those, that that's what I was doing over here in sunny San Diego. So, yeah, man just on the final countdown, I, this is, I think this is the least amount of content for anything. I think rivals, I've done two videos in a month, maybe two months, or a month and a half. Snap, you know, we're doing the Snapchat every other week. So it's, it is, it is, uh, quite the time. And I would've rather gone to Pax West, but man, I'm, I'm happy you guys had a good time. Dexter said he had a good time too.

Alex: 6:43

Oh, it was great being with Dexter. Dexter's, such a chill guy. Like he's one of those guys that you really like. Unlike me, you can't bring me anywhere, but you can bring Dexter anywhere. It was so funny. We were, uh, and what do I mean by that is, uh, so like, obviously you made fun of me for the fish tacos and stuff like that. So Dexter and I, we found a spot we really liked for sushi. So we got sushi for lunch twice. And while we were eating sushi, he's like, yo, he's like, we can't. And when we have dinners with other people, we can't go to sushi. I said, why? He's like, you have, what are you doing right? I'm like, what? He's like, you're using a fork. He's,

Cozy: 7:11

no, not for sushi, Alex, not for, and like,

Alex: 7:13

I kept, I kept dropping the, so I, I would get the sushi with a fork and you know how like you have the soy sauce? I, it kept slipping off the fork and just completely submerging in the soy sauce. So I would like take it out and like try to like shake it off. He's like, yeah, we can't do this with people in public. No,

Cozy: 7:27

Dexter's a foodie at that too. Like he, he's even above. He like, he makes me feel bad when I'm eating food. He's like, like, how dare I ring somewhere 10 stars? And it was like, you know, it was only a two in Dexter's boy. He's a, he's a food snob. Dexter, you're food snob. I know you're listening.

Alex: 7:42

Yeah. It, it was, it was honestly so awesome. And, uh, it was great. Like we, we spent a lot of time together and, um, again, he's, he's such a chill dude, and he, you know, what? He's also, he loves he loved a lot of the indie games he saw. And I think that, like, one of the small things that he did, which I really appreciated, was, uh, we went to a couple places where there was like, it was pretty quiet and he had a, you have like the, the indie developer playing their own game, right? Waiting for someone to walk up. And Dexter did a great job of like, kind of walking up, firing them up a little bit, playing their game, hyping them up, you know what I mean? Getting them, uh, ready for launch, stuff like that. Like, it was nice. It was good to see, like, it was one of those things where like, you know, he just, he, he really did a good job of kind of engaging with, uh, with the games he was playing, the indie teams he was kind of interacting with and stuff. It was really nice to see.

Cozy: 8:26

He's a gamer at heart man. That guy, he's always playing, especially indie games. He, that, that man plays a lot of, a lot of games. We'll see how that changes. Once, uh, his announcement, by the way, you saw his announcement.

Alex: 8:36

I did, I'm, I'm well aware of the announcement. Yeah. Dad, Dexter's gonna be, he's gonna be a dad. Dexter's

Cozy: 8:39

joining the dad side over here. And me, me and Alex are just gonna just feast on the, a enjoyment of watching this man become a father. Both in the heart, but also just laughing.'cause first, first Dad pains is, is gonna hit like, it, the streaming, trying to stream and be a dad. That's where it's gonna be fun. Me and re just, we didn't last, Alex, I don't know how you're doing it, but, we'll, we'll see where Dexter ends up.

Alex: 9:02

Yeah, it's funny because like, uh, I've always joked about like, had I been in my like twenties when I had like my YouTube pop off and all that kind of stuff. Oh man, would, I've been able to do different, do so much more, right. It would've been a totally different ballgame altogether. But now it's like, uh, even with Pax, you know, I had to come, come home early'cause the kids start school and all this type of stuff and like, you know, I, I start school like I gotta go to work. So it's like, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's a totally different ballgame for sure. And, uh, sometimes you have kids that don't sleep through the night. And you don't get to sleep. And

Cozy: 9:31

sometimes

Alex: 9:31

it's all the time

Cozy: 9:32

that for sure. I know that's the truth, but you know, but you, you, you get through it. I can't wait to repeat the cycle over here, but listen, man, we got a, we got a packed episode. We, we've got nine minutes. Some comment guy out there who for by 200 episodes is not grabbed. The fact that we don't, we don't jump right into the Snap talk. I mean, come on. We gotta, we gotta, uh, let the, let the meat settle. I don't know what I'm trying to say. Let the, what's what's something you let the weight go before you, you do it. I don't, dude, I don't know what I'm saying. Go by. Help me out. You gotta let the meat settle. I'm, I'm also

Alex: 10:02

trying to figure out what you're saying. Uh, the dust settle I think is what you're referring to.

Cozy: 10:05

No, no, no. It's like the, when you wait for something. Yeah. It's like the let the meat settle on the grill is what I was saying before. Guys. I'm almost positive

Alex: 10:11

it's let the dust settle. I know that usually like I'm the guy who's wrong here, but I think you're wrong.

Cozy: 10:15

Eh, it is the dust settle. It's just the meat can settle too. I don't know. I'm definitely wrong. Anyway, we've got Viv vision our new season pass card. Now, before we dive into her quickly August cards into review. We kind of already talked about whenever I did my, uh, Cozy ketchup. You know, we had the fallen one and we had the new Ghost writer, so we talked about those two recently too. I guess Ghost writer. Probably the best one to recap because we just had that last week, Alex, as this tech car that we thought would be plug and play. Where do you think it finally ended up overall in its play?

Alex: 10:43

Uh, I think he's good. I think that overall, like if you want to kind of make like a tech soup deck where you just make everyone hate you, he's a great addition to that. He doesn't stand on his own particularly well'cause it's very difficult and nearly impossible right now to use him, um, as part of your own deck synergy. It's basically like, uh, it's basically an FU card to your opponent, right? It's not a card that you can use. Like I had even, uh, like when I was testing the card myself, I had this thought of like, okay, what if I have him, I have Red guardian. What if I use White Widow and what if I disable the, the widow's kiss so that it can't be destroyed anymore, right? So it's clogging can't be destroyed. Negative four. And it was almost never in the front row for the thing to hit. It was never like people destroyed it before. I could play cosmic, uh, ghost Rider. So that wasn't really a synergy worth, uh, utilizing. So there's that, right? And I, I, it's one of those cards that if you're gonna play TechSoup Deck, he's probably fine, but because he doesn't have any inherent synergy for what your deck wants to do, he might be one that sits at the wayside for a bit, despite being probably okay.

Cozy: 11:41

My takeaway is we don't, we haven't really ever had a tech card. I mean, we do sometimes, but most tech cards, they, they kind of shine later in the season, right? Like, or later in the game. Like Red Guardian I think is the most apparent one. Like, people were like, he's fine. And then obviously now it's become such an insane card. So like tech cards in general, the, the longer they've been out, the more they kind of adapt. Well, not only cards coming out, but also just in general is my takeaway.

Alex: 12:05

I wanna comment on that too.'cause a lot of people said like, oh, streamers missed on Red Guardian and stuff like that. And I remember saying he was good, but like you didn't have to like fomo into him or anything like that. But you also have to keep in mind that that was at a time where we did not have the ex, like ex excessive power creep we've experienced on two cost cards. Like Red Guardian became a must play because of what we are seeing with Surge and Fanta at two costs and everything else that was happening. Right? Yeah. We had such an inflection of powerful two drops that you needed something to turn it off on the next turn and that's where Red Guardian really started to pop off. But uh, but yeah, I mean with tech cars they always age like fine wine. They just always do because they just do.

Cozy: 12:42

And at the time too, I mean what we were talking like Dracula was like one of the better things for Red Guard. Like that was kind of where the meta was at whenever Red Guardian did come out. And so, yeah, definitely things have have shifted since then. But we do have a brand new season, Alex and oh man. Before we jump into the cards themselves, how do you feel about the cards overall? Have you seen them, have you, have you gone over them yet?

Alex: 13:03

I have of, and it's like no Cozy. Yeah. I have not gone saying I'm totally unprepared for this podcast. Sir, what's your thought?

Cozy: 13:08

What's your

Alex: 13:08

thoughts on them? Yeah, yeah, generally I, my thoughts are I think this season is significantly stronger than the last one. Um, I think this is closer to the fantasy season, but I suspect the Fantastic four season is probably better overall. Like in terms of its general power level. Like I think that fan, like Mr. Fantastic is better than VI Vision, but I think VI Vision is a banger.

Cozy: 13:27

Yeah, for sure. I think fantastic. And Visible Women, it's hard to compare to that. But what I think was a cool call that you did is like, this is kind of like a new activate season in the sense of like really giving it its new identity in a different way to play it. And so like, just like in turn you've got that shtick and you have strong cars. So I do agree. Let's start with Viv though, and I think, yeah, it's no secret. Is this the five star of the, I mean, there's some really good cards it's stop at, but this is the five for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think Viv is a very, very good card here. They already adjusted it from what we even saw back in data month a bit, but she's a three, two at this point. Guys, three costs, two power at the start of each turn. You're gonna give all of your cards in your hand plus one power if you're winning here, which it's so funny, we called out the winning here forever ago on Iron Patriot. Now it's just on so many cars. It's such a common text place now.'cause they can do a lot more with it. Otherwise, move this to another location, meaning Viv Vision. So Alex plus one to your entire hand, starting at the beginning of turn four is pretty, pretty nuts, bro. That's a crazy benefit that could work for all decks. It

Alex: 14:31

is a fantastic benefit and, um, I think this card is exceptionally powerful. I think the move side is pretty interesting too.'cause if you don't trade, it could move into a location like alter of death where your opponent can't contest it. It can go into Luke's bar, it can go into Sanc, toum. Like people aren't really paying much attention to the fact that this has some ability to enter locations where it'll be uncontested. Um, the other thing I really like about it is that, um, we ha we've had this onslaught of really good tempo cards, right? Um, like you are able to try to, cleanly win in like lanes with hydration bobber. You got bl the new Black Cat. You know, you're in a situation where you can try to put up as much power in those early turns to guarantee a proc or two on V vision. Yeah. And if they happen to flip it, then it moves. It moves somewhere else. Right. Which is kind of fascinating too. And the fact that it's at the start of every turn, not the end of every turn, means that on turn six, when turn six rolls over, it buffs everything in your hand again. So it has like a little that added versatility, right. Of like, oh, it's turn six and my car just got juiced. Yeah. Which might make it good for some synergies, I'm sure we're gonna talk about in a suck.

Cozy: 15:35

Well, and we saw before like you can also force hands of someone to play somewhere they maybe weren't planning on and going up to a turn three. You have a lot of time. I mean, the first two turns to set up what you're trying to do anyway. Plus you also have just, we're seeing more and more cars We just saw fall in one for just an easy example, like wanting that power and, and we've talked about more of those. We're gonna get better. Those cards get, there's plenty of cards. Mainly, uh, obviously Surfer being just like a not just'cause she's three cars, but also there's just brooded and, and Sebastian Shaw. Those are gonna be cars that want to have that power. Dude. Even things like, um, the, you were very high on her long time ago, but, uh, cla right? So like a card that we've just been waiting to have something that can passively get things working for her. Right? That's another one. So this is a very interesting case of having that plus power with not needing to do a lot besides winning the location, which is great. And then you also have the, the move part. So that's why it's just two for one man, I think she's gonna be special.

Alex: 16:33

There's a lot of things you mentioned there, and I, I wanna talk about them all because I've been really thinking a lot about vivid vision. First of all, CLIA is a great callout, and CLIA is unique in the sense because it can be in your hand generating the value without being on the, the field of play, which is really unique in Snap. We don't have a lot of cards that do that, right? CLIA is unique from that standpoint. One thing about Surfer, now obviously you're talking to the dude that wants Surfer. Like if it's a three J, if it's not even a three job, if I can get anything in Surfer, the fuck I'm gonna try and do it. The thing with VIS that I'll mention is that Surfer traditionally does not pay much attention to turns one and two. And so as a result, there might be situations where VIS doesn't actually get those pros off. Like if you think about this and compare it to, uh, adding Akia to a Silver Surfer deck, Akia has one additional power guarantees. The, um, guarantees the proc, right? Which is cool. However the thing is, is that you have to readjust what server, uh, Silver Surfer looks like.'cause traditionally Silver Surfer was. No one drop, two, two drops. And then the rest is either uh, three drops. And then you have galactic gu pool and or, uh, Sarah if you want. So if you're gonna make a new Surfer deck, you're gonna want something that competes and you're gonna want something that puts power and turns one and two. So is there a chance, and I'm not saying this is the correct call, but is there a chance where you have something like a Quicksilver domino style deck that allows vis to pump the hand you're likely, of course, because you're playing Surfer to draw into turn three. Could you do like a Silver Surfer wicked variant? I was thinking about that. What would Silver Surfer in a wicked deck look like?

Cozy: 18:05

That's interesting,

Alex: 18:06

and I think that Viv vision might activate that because Viv vision will allow you to buff. Brood. It'll light a buff Sebastian Shaw. And not only that, but I think there's another card later on that we'll be able to talk about related to Surfer two. And when you add that in there, all of a sudden I think you have this new take on what surfers look like. Now, of course, I'm not saying you need to run Wicken, I'm just saying that was an idea I had.'cause you're gonna be doing the Domino Quicksilver and you're May thinking, Alex, why would you play Domino? Why don't you play all these other two drops? And you absolutely can do that. But Domino still represents four power and you can play vi vision on top of that. And so, yeah, I was just thinking about that and wondering how vi vision can be played in a new style of Silver Surfer deck. And I think that it's one that wants initiative and wants a more aggressive turn one and two.

Cozy: 18:49

It's crazy to think how long kind of a base Surfer build has been, uh, and how hard it is to change that build. Right? Like it's just been, we, we've had such the same staple format and every now and then we get cars that can fit in there and they fit okay in there. But yeah, it's a good point with it like. You know, even looking at, I think what's great about this card is you look at the, the plus one, which makes her working quite literally most play, right? Because three two doesn't matter. I mean, she's really helping out the rest of your turns and just flow. But also on top of that even, and I don't think the move thing, the move thing's nice for her. I don't think you're gonna want to do like, I mean, you could maybe get away with like hydro stomper or Craven, whatever, like you can do stuff like that. Sure. I don't know if that's gonna be like her true shining spot. I think you can make that work. I, I like her a bit better on the ladder of what we've been talking about with the plus power cards. Especially when we get into some of the other ones we're about to talk about here. Uh, but it's gonna be interesting if she can change kind of how Surfer plays and if it can stick better either way though. She's just gonna be good in Surfer at the base build because of Shaw as of Barod, uh, you know, having these cards with the synergy already, you know,

Alex: 19:53

with regards to the movement. I did give that a lot of thought and I was like, okay, hydro stomper. The thing with hydro stompers is if. If Viv vision's moving everywhere, that means you're not winning locations, right? And so she's not ping the effect, which is what you kind of want. So I don't like, so I was like, okay. But I did think that like Bera, the leaper could be interesting because if Viv moves, he goes with her and gets buffed to then almost guarantee the p proc on that next term because you've added so much power to another location, right? And I wonder like, okay, can you make a Surfer deck where you have tro in there and could you do something with the new human torch? And could you do something with Silver Surfer first, uh, not Silver Surfer first steps? Could you do something with, uh, human torch, first steps and all this stuff, and then have tro move with vision? And, uh, the vision of course, anyways. All of it's theoretical. I'm still working on some of the details here, but, uh, I do think this is a particularly well designed card. I think it's gonna be a competitive card. I would be extremely shocked if it was not in competitive Uh, oh my God. Whoa. I'm have to edit that one. Maybe you'll just leave that in. No, that's, just leave that in. That's

Cozy: 20:52

too, too good. Competitive ahead. You'll

Alex: 20:54

have to leave it in competitive decks. So we're feeding engagement at this point. You have to kind of get her in decks and then of course, I think she's gonna be performing well because she's just gonna be strong and I feel like. She doesn't have the wide range applicability that something like hope Summers did. Where Hope Summers, like I felt like I could go in literally anything. The vision's not that, but we've had, you said it right at the start, we've had so many decks and so many new cards that really wanna play with an initiative like Iron Patriot right? And everything like that. So, yeah. I like this card a lot. I'd be shocked if it wasn't meta relevant.

Cozy: 21:23

Yeah, I think, I think she'll definitely be involved in those decks. There's no, no way around it. A and on top of just helping other ones really boost, you know, at a baseline level. And that's what we've seen from these cards. Perhaps maybe you can even use the next card to help boost some of that movement a and or into get God just to, things you need to put together to make it work perfectly. But we've got Sparky, the new premium pass card. Now we did wanna shout out. Second dinner they have changed where the seasoned premium card is gonna go right into the packs now. And then if you get the premium pass, you're now going to get a variant of the card. So you've got, uh, which is, it's a pretty good variant. I'm gonna be honest's a good variant giving, giving some good Scooby do vibes. Who doesn't like the animal cards in the game? Uh, we got Sparky who's a two one activate. Give your card that last moved plus three power and move it back to its previous location. So it's an activate. You do get the plus three. And Sparky is definitely interesting. I feel like we've been here with some move cards before, uh, where we go like, okay, there's so much that you can do with it. Will it work out? What do you, what do you think of star rating?

Alex: 22:32

Star rating wise first. I don't, did we get a star rating from you on Vis, because I said five, I think you asked you, but I don't think you explicitly said I asked you. Yes. Okay. Mm-hmm. So I just for my notes, just in case we had to go back to that of course. You know what I mean? Of course. A couple things worth mentioning about Sparky, first of all. Yeah. The way they each kind of modified the way that it goes into the pacs, I think they deserve credit for that. They did bump'em up from a series four to a series five though. So it's like you get a win, you get a big step forward and then like a little step back in some degree there. I think it's worth mentioning with that'cause the, the super premium season pass prior was series four, but I mean this is overall a win for the community. This is overall a much better thing, but it is worth mentioning. And if you are someone who buys a super premium season pass, you get the variant which should automatically unlock the base. So for someone like me who just buys a super premium, just'cause I always have, even for just the cosmetics, and this was before they even added a card to it, it's cool because for me it's like I'll pay the extra money and I'll save that 6,000 tokens or the 5,000 tokens and'cause. Every, everything's just expensive. And so if you can min-max it, go for it. Right. Sparky, I'm going with a firm four stars. This is a card that I'm actually kind of scared of. I think this might be a silent, absolute crazy card and I wonder if this is actually the five star of the month and I'll explain why. I think that they've been doing a lot of stuff to improve Move specifically, and I think that they've been really trying to rearrange move not only for Viv vision, but I think specifically for Sparky. I think the Viv vision is like a move adjacent card, but not really actually a move card. But if you think about what you can do with Sparky at a two cost, dude it's crazy. I don't wanna steal all your thunder. I'll, I'll let you kind of chime in here, but, uh, I think Sparky might low key be absolutely fire.

Cozy: 24:06

Yeah. I, I have a hard time thinking he'd be just because of the way Move works in general. I will say you are correct. Like if someone has been gone for six months, comes back to Snap, they don't realize how many little pieces of activating this guy, let's say on late turn, right? And then you have Zorn or what you have things set up. That could really just boost that one card into, into going some crazy stuff. I just feel like overall I'm not sold on him being that I was actually gonna go more towards three and a half area and all, but there's been a lot of movement cards and so I can see him going and popping off like crazy. Clearly there's so many cards that are just gonna love to have the plus three on top of moving back to its previous location. I mean, that's just such a twofold thing that you can do. It being activates just the cherry on top. So I'm gonna go, I, I feel like I'm always the one that likes the move carts too much. They never end up or I kind of like'em, but it being too one ad activate. I do see why you like it there. And I think there's definitely some cases you just brought up even something like multiple man human torch. Those things are gonna cook with this, but yeah. Where's your head going to make it? Five.

Alex: 25:08

I didn't make it a five. I said a four. If, if

Cozy: 25:09

you No, sorry. That it could be like, could be, it has the, the potential

Alex: 25:12

Oh, like the, the ceiling on it basically. Yeah. Okay. So basically, um, the reason why I think Sparky might be legit is'cause I, I was looking at, I think that activate in this case is a superpower. Yeah. Activate sometimes can be a little difficult to play around with. If you think about a board state and this, and again, I'm not like an avid move player, admittedly, right? So like, my lines might not be as optimal as someone who just plays move all day long. But if I just think about something like a dream line of like, you have irania, you have sparky, and then you have the new human torch, right? The way that should work is that you should be able to activate irania plea. Um, the human torch activates sparky. The human torch would've been the last car to have moved. You'll move that human torch twice with the Sparky and the Iran while adding power. And that in and of itself is crazy.'cause you can like, and if I, and if I kinda like messed up the order a bit there, I mean, we're not, I think whatever I think you, I think you say, right? I think I said it right, but long story short, it's like you're able to use the the activate to stack the movement in such a way where you can chain together these massive movements on a card that now doubles. Think about that change to human torch and the fact that this adds plus three power. We've never had a card in Marvel Snap ad plus three power without it getting nerfed, essentially. I, and there's gonna be some examples, but

Cozy: 26:25

I agree. The only thing my, like, I'd almost go the multiple man route, only because I don't like the, the chance of torch going in. Elena, I didn't need him and, or like. There's so many things that I'm not gonna say can go wrong, but that's the problem. Like you get a lot of power in that car. Do you even need all that? Right? Whereas multiple man, it's like you do the irania into the plus three here, and then you're starting to get like multiple man staying where he was going to a new one. And I like that finish a little bit more because of the randomness being away. It's not as high and as sexy, but that's probably why I had my, my scare on him was because of that hole. Like you can't really choose where he goes and you can set it up beforehand. You have to have the right combos and cards. But yes, it does have that crazy pop behind it.

Alex: 27:05

And I actually wonder how this would work with Viv vision, uh, because, um, if Viv vision moves after losing, you activate this, it'll move back to its prior location and then it'll, it'll start to turn win the one it moved to probably, maybe, right? Because it moved when it lost from, maybe it moves to when it wins from, and then it'll fly back with plus three power to the other one. And so all of a sudden Viv vision becomes this moving, like almost feels like a phoenix force where you's like you're trying to track it as it moves across the battlefield back and forth. I don't know. I, I think that Sparky, once it's in the hands of like a true, like move expert, which admittedly, as I said, I'm not could find some very powerful lines and that plus three power, plus a move activation is particularly strong. And we're not even talking about stuff like Topaz and fan fan fe and everything that has been added to the game thus far.

Cozy: 27:50

Yeah, for sure. I mean, having Topaz down and, or, and having like, you can have a lot of pre-set up, uh, that, that can make this work. Ultimately, how much is the payoff? What do you have to do? That's, that, that's where my hesitation comes in. But yeah, I do think Sparky definitely has, has a shot to, to do something pretty crazy. And move, as we've seen, has, has continued to go up and up in different builds different shells. Moving on from Sparky, Alex, we have, uh, what is it? What is our, what's the next one? Gimme the order here. Uh, Moyer XI believe. Moyer X is really? Yeah, that's what I have on the list here. Okay. Moyer X guys one cost, two power card. Alex and I talked a lot about one cost last week and kind of like it is, we've had the hood there for a long time. There's a couple cards that have, have been crowned as the king and queens of one cost. Can anything come in and shake it up? Couple interesting ones. This season when this is destroyed, get a copy of your opening hand and, uh, man I think this is such a cool card. I think this is a very fun card and I like the setup capabilities of it. I don't know how great it'll be, you know, I think the opening hand thing. There's a lot of randomness to it, and by then, I don't know if you absolutely need that. I think there's gonna be some cool combos you can pull off, but I think it's awesome to pull this something together with like a Quinjet Victoria. What a Victoria hand is copied too. So like all that stuff is kind of cool.

Alex: 29:11

It is cool. There's a couple things that like really jumped to mind. First of all, this is one of the card arts that I looked at and had to double take because I was like, this doesn't make sense.'cause Moira's a scientist right now, I've watched enough X-Men to know that Moira and Professor Xavier have some sort of long lasting, uh, interaction. And, um, I'm just like, what kind of scientists walks to their wardrobe, says, give me the rogue throws on the jumpsuit and is like, I I need the trench coat too. Yeah. And then throws the trench coat on top, like, what is going on with this art? Like, what is she wear? Like I know that like, I'm not, like, I literally have like the dad shorts and the Costco socks and stuff like that, but I feel like my getups make more sense than this one.

Cozy: 29:45

It is quite the, it is quite the superhero gub. I feel like it's like two, two uniforms in one over here. But, uh, yeah,

Alex: 29:51

exactly. It's like a mashup of uniforms.

Cozy: 29:54

It's like, it's like the Clark Clint, uh, trying to like, blend in, put Clark, Clint Clark in trying to blend in and like, but everyone knows it's him. It's like, oh, I'm just a regular person. It's like, why are you wearing that underneath it? You know? What do you, what do you, what are you doing as a card though? I think it's just a, it's gonna be a fun combo piece. I don't know. I, I'm not, I'm not sold. Is there, what, what is the combo I'm missing?'cause I, I'm not sold that this is gonna be too crazy.

Alex: 30:18

So star rating. I'm having a hard time. Yeah. Um, I don't like doing point fives. I want to, I'm thinking twos, but the thing is is I, there's other cards coming out that we're gonna be talking about next, which I think this card and the next one might give Victoria a hand enough of an infusion of potential power that those whole decks might rise and Moira might be apart there. So it's hard. I see a floor of two. I see a ceiling of maybe in the three range. I dunno, this card's one of the ones I've had a harder time wrapping my mind around.'cause you're also getting your opening hand back. So that might be cool. But like, it's not the same as drawing through your deck, right? Like, you're getting cards that you might have already used back and like, do you need black cat again? You know what I mean? Like, I, it's, and also you have to destroy it. This has the same problem as like combo pieces like elixir and air walker. Yeah. And all those things where it's like you can't just, you just can't like put it down. The only major synergy I see. Sorry Kate. I'll let you go then I'll talk synergy.

Cozy: 31:18

No, I was just gonna say if, if there was like activate this destroys itself and you get a copy of your opening hand, like if, if it had that self implode thing, like then I would actually really like it.'cause it's like this, like maybe you don't draw what you want. Whatever. Right. Like you're able to, to start cooking up. But yeah, then it's like you have to hybrid your deck enough to blend into the Kao piece to make it work. You can't try too many sexy synergies at once. Uh, and so that, that is probably where my line, I think two is right? I don't even think two and a half. I think two is probably about fair.

Alex: 31:46

This is so funny. This is such a random thought I had when you said that about like self imploding. I'm like, what kind of Marvel character would probably work best as like a self implosion card. Okay. And then I don't know why, but South Park came to mind and I thought like imagine there was like a South Park Marvel Snap crossover and there was a card called Kenny. And it just blows up. And as it, it's like, oh my God, they killed Kenny. And then it implodes and then like, like implode and create a new card and the new card comes out and they, and it yells you bastards as it runs and like the new card hits the thing. I think that would've been funny. Anyways, that's my contribution to the Snapchat there. So, okay. I've been thinking a lot about this card because like, I don't like coming in with like a very lukewarm, like, I don't really know thing.'cause this is a podcast a lot of people listen to and we gotta do our research. Damn it. But like, so you, you have LDS that can activate this. You have skill marker that can activate this. But like, we actually joked about it prior, like misery, right? Like, misery can't activate this because it's not non reveal. So like misery is kind of the king of those decks right now and that can't really go there. So I kept trying to figure out like, who's the deck? Like where's the deck? This might be cope, but I wanna throw a dormammu for a second. Dormammu can destroy this, right? So like, you can, you can get the Destroy two cards thing to summon Dormammu. What if Dormammu was in your opening hand? I don't know. I don't know the answer. That's interesting. Will you replicate Deramus and then some in multiple

Cozy: 33:03

SDU Mamas, the plural version of Do Mamu that everyone of course knows. That's interesting. Of course. I like that take like the only thing I was cooking up was like, kind of like, I don't know. The death kill, by the way, I love how you said LDS and Killmonger, like if someone's new to Snap, they like, you just talked like a different language to them, lady Death strike and kill hunger. But yeah, if like the classic death deck with the ones, I thought this was kind of cool because you have the ones anyway that are cheap and then you can like, kind of like really abuse like some of the power there potentially if you can line it upright and then you're able to destroy that without even trying. I think that's kind of a cool thing. You get the offense defense going death, maybe death is in the opening deck, so then you get two deaths and then you can play both in the, I don't know, that's the only one. I thought that'd be kind of like a fun way to play it. Uh, but yes, the door mom, the mom eyes, uh, that, that is a strong possibility. But I still think too, is probably where I land.

Alex: 33:53

But the, the other thing is though, is like, think about, first of all, this feels, I don't wanna say it's power creep on Moon Girl, because it Moon Girl doesn't require an additional activation. And you can control what's in your hand with Moon Girl to some extent. Whereas Moira can't, the only thing I'll say though is think about Victoria and Collector. Collector gets a, gets juiced with this, right? It's pretty cool what Collector can do. And what if Moira starts in your opening hand and you destroy Moira? Does Moira come back? I'm assuming so. Yeah. I think so. Mm-hmm.

Cozy: 34:22

So then you can, okay. That's kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's not, I don't hate it.

Alex: 34:27

I got, okay. I, again, I was trying to lean into stuff for this, this card. Uh, is this mad thinker cope? Like, can you fill your hand by replicating your opening hand and have mad thinker in it? Then have multiple mad thinkers cracking off.

Cozy: 34:39

No, don't, don't make mad thinker. Okay. It's too stupid. Okay. No, it's not too stupid. I just. I just don't think it'll, I just don't think you'll play it. You know, I think it can happen. Reason, I think it can happen. Yeah. But I, I, I'm not sure if you could play it, but I, you know, I, I like where you cook it up. I do think Victoria hand is not a bad shot though. I think that if you are able to like, have the perfect lines, that you can have some pretty crazy things even with maybe even collector or what have you. Next up though, bro, this is a, this is a big one for those that, uh, have watched a certain series over here. Alex, I'll let you read it off.

Alex: 35:10

Four, three Bastion on reveal. Add copies of your other cards here to your hand. Set their costs to two and their power to three.

Cozy: 35:19

Bastion is coming to the game. And lot of potential cerebral love, by the way, this season. Don't know if you, uh, picked up on that Ashton. Dude, that's a fun ability. That's, that is right there where you look at the fun and the power level. And I think he's definitely interesting. I think he's good. I like this card a lot, man. I'll probably go towards the four. I'll probably settle at four.

Alex: 35:42

So in the X-Men animated the uh, series, this is the guy that makes the sentinels right?

Cozy: 35:47

Have you not, have you finished the show?

Alex: 35:50

Which one? The new one?

Cozy: 35:51

Yeah.

Alex: 35:52

I'm on like the last two episodes of X 1 97. Can watch that,

Cozy: 35:54

watch that.

Alex: 35:55

Watch that first. Okay, because I wasn't sure, like, isn't the original one. Is this the guy that beefed with, uh, with uh, what's it called? Uh, apocalypse. Um, yes. Mm-hmm. Is he the same guy? Yep, the same guy. Okay. That's what I thought it was. Okay. But I saw him like, is this the guy from the apocalypse version? Anyways so Bastion, this is another card that like, I'm kind of like, I have a bit of a range on. I feel like this is a firm th I was gonna say three and a half. I could see the sitting four maybe.

Cozy: 36:20

Okay.

Alex: 36:21

I don't wanna say four, but I see the upside. First of all, I like the idea of setting a two, like a two three, which is a general good stat line for cards like this. But this, the fact that it's a four three. Is painful for anything outside of cerebral, right? Like it's, it's a really awful stat line and I think that makes it difficult.

Cozy: 36:41

I think he will fit in well the decks that he's supposed to be in. And outside of that it is too much commitment for the forecast. I do agree there. I think the, I given the four for how I think he'll settle into those decks, but you're right, anytime we've seen this so many times before, it's like this, this card that's over commitment on four and you have to have like really perfect things kind of happen for it to end up working the way it should and would that being said too, a lot of, lot of knobs to adjust here on the card, which I like if he doesn't quite land there. Um, but I just think there's enough cards to capitalize and creativity. I think this is gonna be a really fun release week card to see what people cook up because he's got a lot of, got a lot of juice to him and yeah, Cerebro being one of'em for sure. Obviously.

Alex: 37:19

Yeah. And one thing I will mention is I do like, so we have a lot of hand generation here, right? So we had the Moira. Now Moira, while it is gonna generate stuff from your deck, it is random in a sense because you can't control what's in your opening hand. If you could, that would be pretty overpowered. So now you have Bastion. Bastion. You can control what you copy, right? Because you're playing it onto that location. However, it's also very reliant on card draw. If you don't draw, like for instance, getting a cerebral down on three is cool because you can bastion that cerebral, three cerebral becomes a two, three, that busts itself and also doubles. Doubles the cerebral effect. That is really cool. And it almost removes the need from mystique in a deck like that, right? However, what if you don't draw cerebral by turn three? Think about the other stuff you're playing in a deck like that. They will already likely have their power set to three. And the other thing is you're playing this on four. So something you play on turn one might be a one three or whatever, right? Turn two, three. I guess something you play on two might be a two three. So do you play it on turn five after you sneak out an Ironman or something like, you know what I mean? It's, the lines I think are tricky with it. I see the cerebral one, but it's everywhere else where I have some question marks and in the comments, if you guys have some beautiful Strat, let us know because uh, I would love to see it.

Cozy: 38:36

Yeah, I feel like when it comes to C3, like the only cars that you,'cause if you look at like what you could get cheaper if it's not cerebral, I think that's one of the issues. Like you can maybe get like a little bit of a cheaper, like neonic maybe, uh, a little cheaper Cosmo, whatever, uh, Cosmo, something like that. But for the most part, you're right. I don't know if that will line up all the time. Um, but yeah, I don't know. Maybe four is probably too high. I do feel like that is probably too high though. I do, I think I agree with you now. I think the problem is where he'll work outside of certain decks. I think. By the way, cerebral is just one of them.

Alex: 39:09

But yeah, of course. I was just gonna say, people in the comics are probably like, yo, are you missing obviously the Victoria hand deck? Like Yeah, yeah. Right. Uh,

Cozy: 39:15

so I, that has the hesitancy is some of the card draw and it being four just in general. 4, 4, 3 though. I don't know man. I think he's got a shot but maybe is towards more three and a half than four.

Alex: 39:27

We kind of said it like a joke, but realistically Victoria hand, like if you so much as copy Quinjet Victoria hand, like that's a lot like Quinjet two, three Victoria hand. Well, you know, whatever Victoria hand gets becomes a two three in your hand, but you get a second hand. The way I said a sentence is so awkward. You get a second Victoria hand. And then you could like play them together. And then you can moonstone, right? Think about it like the, then all of a sudden things are popping off. Like, so there is potential in the Victoria hand stuff like, don't get me wrong, like especially with the moonstone doubling or the Dublin. But then if you're playing B when you're playing moonstone, doubling double, and then you gotta get stuff on the field of play. But then you got the quinjet effect happening, so everything's cheaper.

Cozy: 40:05

You might

Alex: 40:06

get,

Cozy: 40:06

I don't know, man, it's possible he might get hit with that 13th card and a 12 card deck feeling, and that that could be his fate. But uh, time, time will tell with him. Next up Alex is it human torch, right? That another human torch. Uh, Jim Hammond, the human torch. I can't believe we have yet another human. We're just getting flooded with them. Jim Hammond a human torch. We got another one. Cost two power card at the start of each turn, plus one power for each bonus energy you have. And I'm not saying like Mad Thinker's not a great car. I'm not saying some of these ones that, you know, you can get scaling power. They, they've been trying to make it work. It hasn't really worked thus far. I don't know. I think, you know, fall in one. I'm just saying you could cook up, fall in one and probably get this guy to really cool scaling stuff. And there's a couple, there's a card obviously that we'll talk about in a moment that, that, that, that's gonna help this, uh, uh, a tad bit too. One, two, go into one. I mean, I think you can get the average synergy in the deck. He's super narrow. Super narrow. So that's, that, that's obviously a concern.

Alex: 41:07

I think this card's flaming feces.

Cozy: 41:09

Yeah, I mean, flaming feces is a, that's a statement. That's a feces on fe poop on poop. Poop on On what, what does he say? What, what does his, his dlec,

Alex: 41:18

I have no idea what he's gonna yell. But this is a also, and I realize was looking at this, is this the reason why they moved the human torch to three costs? Like, is this why let's be honest, but then we have, we have another three costs. Human torch. There's too many freaking human torches. Too many human torch. There's one thing, so I actually had written down the fallen one too, and then as you were saying that, I was thinking, I don't know if the fall one counts as extra energy because it says fallen one's, text says set right. Whereas like Luna Snow adds energy to the turn.

Cozy: 41:46

Okay,

Alex: 41:47

WIC and adds energy to the turn. I don't know if fallen one adds energy to the turn. I'm actually not sure. I don't know how that interaction would work. I, I wish I should have asked Glen before this, I actually don't know, because that would be cool. Like we joked about it, like we joked about last week, how like Maki got 41 energy on a, like human, the human torch would like that, right? And he would absolutely absorb that, but I don't know if setting is the same as bonus energy.

Cozy: 42:11

Yeah, that's the beautiful, it's just, that's the beauty of the, the old figuring out the text in Marvel Snap. Uh, yeah. I mean if that doesn't work, then that definitely, that definitely hurts a little bit. Again, I, I think he is to, like I said, he's narrow in those decks anyway. Those decks have other options to play at them. I think he can go above and get some decent, decent lines going if you happen to pull things the right way. I do think he's the weakest of the season though, for sure.

Alex: 42:38

Yeah, he's like a one two for me. Like, I can't, I don't think this is a card worth chasing unless there's an obvious synergy we're missing. Uh, RA I think has potential here, like hum turn three extra power consistently, like RA's, extra power. And so that'll work. And this will just be free real estate there, which is kind of cool. Uh, WCAN obviously. But the thing with Wcan is like, do you really wanna play a Wcan deck without Quicksilver? Like, you actually, if you play Jim Hammond, that means you're playing a bunch of one drops, right? Yeah. Like, you gotta do the math on how many one drops you're gonna play. If you're playing Wcan, you would usually play wcan and then minimum four, two drops. If you're not playing Domino, four, two drops at a minimum to try to get that effect running. But like, we had so many good two drops, it didn't matter. We had Fanta surge, everything like that. I don't know, man. I, I don't see it. I don't see this being a good card.

Cozy: 43:25

I'm gonna say two. I think the one you want two. I think if he was gonna be super bad, he'd be like a one three as his start out. And then maybe Ghislaine made him one two.'cause there's a couple decks where he, he might have his shot. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go two on him. I think there is a world, but I that is based on the following one that is based on the follow of one.

Alex: 43:44

Uh, yeah, I, I agree. And we don't know if the fallen one's gonna work with him. Like that's one of those things we don't have clarification on. This might be one of those cards that when the, um, the, the week four this card comes, if Jen Hammond is coming we are able to get more clarification from second dinners team. People are gonna ask questions, team answers, stuff like that. And so we might be able to adjust, we will be able to adjust our scores and rankings at that point. But if it is like we think it is now, if fall, especially if fall in one does not count as extra energy, I would be very concerned with this card. Yeah, for sure.

Cozy: 44:13

We've got some really good ones to talk about. There's so many cards that come out in a season. That's crazy. My God. Warlock is one of them though. First of all, just pure nightmare fuel right here, guys. Three. Three. Good God. This is something. Activate Alex. For each unspent energy, give a card in your hand. Negative one cost. Dude, I'm all about this card. I think this is such, I love it. A such a cool design. Love that your opponent doesn't know what's going on. Love that you have the, um, the ability and choice to use it when you need to to go into it. Something like on a turn, turn four, turn five. Turn five is crazy. Going into turn six and just really surprising your opponent. Yeah, it's activate but it's a three. Three. I, dude, this is, yeah, this is a four and a half to me.

Alex: 45:00

This, I'm near four and a half the, so the concern I have that ke I, I'm gonna go four. I love this card. I think this is a really cool card. It's just playing it. The activate here is tricky because you definitely want it down on turn four. It's not the kind of card that you want on turn five either, right? Because it's going to your hand and therefore you wanna be able to a activate on turn five, which means it has to be out on turn four. Yeah. Two. So it's windows even tighter than most right. Because you want to discount your hand going into the final turn. So even though it's a three, like some threes you can get away with playing on five. Like at most activate cards you gotta get out by five. But this one you gotta get out by four. Yeah. Yeah.'cause if it's not on the field, the play by five, you can't pump your hand for turn six, right? Oh yeah. Because pumping your hand after you play cards. So yeah, that was one little nuance where I was like, oh man, I love this card, but it does have a smaller window than most activates, you know what I mean?

Cozy: 45:55

For sure. I think in the worlds of just playing a magic old she knot deck with sunspot, to me, I, I just think it's because that deck is so cool and so strong anyway. And the fact that you could play that down, go with the war, luck and skip to get the She Hulk down anyway. Play the inance, have all the bonus, bro. This thing would go crazy in that deck. And then you could have magic to give it a little bit more room too. So like, maybe you don't pull it in time while you gotta pull some cards. Maybe that's magic. And then you can play that out to extend it.

Alex: 46:26

Cozy. Did you know that in a tournament? There it is. I played a she knot deck featuring Kang. Did you really? That did you really? I had to bring it up. It was just too quick. I had to, but uh, what I thought is actually, I don't think those decks play magic. I was thinking a lot about this. I was thinking about how like she knot specifically, one of the challenges those decks had was that if you float five energy on turn five. She, uh, the Hulk, the she Hulk's always still one. You can never combo. She Hulk with Finon. Now, you would be able to kinda get around that with Luna Snow, with hope Summers and like, there's ways to kind of juggle around that. What I find interesting with Warlock is if you have a line where you play, like on turn one, you play the sunspot, turn two, you play I don't know, Bruce banner or turn three. You throw down Warlock turn four, you throw down Cyclops, pew, pew turn five, you skip full skip pew, pew Warlock does the thing. It's probable. Your, that your, uh, she, uh, she Hulk will actually get hit by one of these pros and go to zero cost. Allowing you to sneak her out with anything else. But moreover, let's say she doesn't get hit. If fin gets hit, it's now five.

Cozy: 47:37

You

Alex: 47:38

know what I mean?

Cozy: 47:38

Exactly. So that's where I thought that worked. But my there was, I I'm telling you, bro, back in the day, remember the S lock you would do like sidelock, you would have s lock in this deck too because you'd have the chance to get the, the six Energy on five as your alternate play. And then getting two of those could kind of cook two and then you would do some tech cards in there. Like, that was such a fun deck with Magic back in the She Knot days as like an alternate plan that you would run. And, and then you were kind of on this, like, you were like this defensive built deck, right?'cause you have your opponent kind of throw out everything that they have. And then, uh, that heck that deck used to run Moon Girl sometimes. Like, it was a weird. Kind of cook of a deck, but I feel like I would definitely throw in, but potentially even Jennifer Kale. Heck, how maybe you throw in the fricking human torch we just talked about, but having cyloed to be able to help get that energy and then you're really helping yourself out. But that's even if warlock just doesn't come on curve, and then you can do the thing. Anyway,

Alex: 48:29

I like that call. And actually the Moon Girl version, I believe I played at Snappy Clause if I can remember correctly. Lot lower on the Simpson. Simpson. I'm, I'm, I was thinking there. Slo I think I, I, I know exactly what you're talking about. I wonder if SLO in 2025 and that type of deck is replaced with Jennifer Kale or both'cause of Jennifer Kas. Yeah. Or both, I guess. Yeah, it's true.

Cozy: 48:50

Oh yeah. Oh man. And then it's just like, can you get. Can you get the cards and because then you really need she not or infinite. What's that? Stupid ass card. Oh, Thunderbolt Ross. That even throw that guy in there, bro. Get, make sure you get your cards you need. No, I I I think there's obviously that, that deck, why it's so cool is the, the wind line is so small. Like there's just a couple of cards that make that win. So there's a lot of experimentation you can do in that deck. Like there's a lot of flexibility. I think Warlock would fit right into that, but I do agree outside of that deck, he's just a bit harder to pull off. You only have a couple turns. He is a three three, but yes. Tough to tough, tough to make happen.

Alex: 49:26

One thing I will say as well is that I think Warlock, and I'm not sure if this will precisely work, but with Viv vision, I wonder if Warlock could be an alternate C card. Yes. And Surfer a hundred percent. Instead of like, what, like what does Silver Surfer look like if you skip turn five or not even skip turn five, like that's, you skip it. But what if you just. Play a card on turn five, play a three drop, you're still floating two and you're still discounting two. Is that

Cozy: 49:53

enough? You know what I mean? For sure. And it's not next turn there minus one cost. Like you, you could get that out and, and try to make that work as quick as possible. I think it's completely fine how we used to run a rogue and Surfer, and then if it was just like an empty card, it's like I get, obviously that doesn't work anymore. There's too much power creep, but you could just buff up the, like you at least had something to do with the buff up there. Three, three as the, as. The pure minimum stat line is not awful. And in surf you're guaranteed to have other plays anyway, so it's like you get'em on curve, you're really cooking on turn six.

Alex: 50:21

The way I was thinking about it now, obviously Sarah's five power being applied to the board. So you add five power to the board and essentially in Silver Surfer you're discounting your board state by three.'cause each card you're playing three, two drops. So you get three extra energy essentially on turn six warlock is technically five extra energy. Or you play two drop and you get three extra energy. However, it's randomly hitting cards so you can't, like Sarah's a guaranteed one discount across the board guaranteeing that any three drop can be going down at two. Yeah. But then

Cozy: 50:50

you, you probably have a pretty thin, you, you probably have a good hand to be able to determine what you do. I almost feel like you'd want to have this turn, skip beyond four, like play him on three. Well wait, yeah, yeah. Ten one three activated. And then on five you're not forced to play like a two and a, I don't know, you could maybe make it work a little bit better than going into six. Not all the time, but I feel like what does that look like if you do it on four compared to five? Either way. I, I get what you're saying. I think both these could be very interesting in Surfer, like we're gonna have some new Surfer builds coming out and that definitely excites me.

Alex: 51:19

And it's kind of cool too with warlock that like, even if you're just off curve, but you're open the rest of your hand, like, you're like, oh, I'm off curve on turn four, but I, I have like spiderwoman for on five and Hulk on six. You're like, well, I may as well just activate this now because I know my curve out on six and five. And then maybe you top X something you can use,

Cozy: 51:38

bro, this, this card art, the variants are already gonna be just slapping. Listen bro, if this one doesn't get you excited, I know the next one, Alex, read it for the viewer's next card up.

Alex: 51:49

It's, uh, Yokota, which I think is how that would be pronounced, is a three three. It reads, activate immediate, immediately activate your other cards here without using up their activat abilities.

Cozy: 52:01

Yo, this is a crazy card, bro. It is. This is so fun, man. This is awesome. I think this is exactly what we've needed for the archetype.

Alex: 52:10

Yes. And the fact that it's stat at three three, which obviously is a very weak stat line, showcases how powerful this can be. I think now we're gonna go through some synergies, but there's something that really came to mind that I wanna say right off the top that makes yo Acosta a very interesting card. Okay. And it's the fact that yo Acosta will allow, activates to activate plate on turn six. So if you have yo Ocosta in a location and you hold Fenris Wolf in your hand, you could play Fenris Wolf into Yo Costa, activate yo Costa and force the Fenris wolf to activate. It's the only way you could get an activate to pump on the last turn of the game without actually clicking the button.

Cozy: 52:50

What do you give this as a star rating?

Alex: 52:52

I'm going with a four, and that's because I have, like, I add synergies. But I'm very concerned about how the end of turn activate style archetypes are gonna look like by the time we get to get to yo CASA's release. Because I think that she has the potential to be an absolutely phenomenal card.

Cozy: 53:15

I think there's a, i this card's gonna be great. I like it at a four. I think that this card is gonna be able to have, is future proof.'cause there's a lot of activate coming. Yeah. We know that it's gonna continue to come. And even some like Riss Wolf who we hated, then we love then like, look at what he became. But even things like, you know, go into kiddo Mega Scarlet Spider. There's just cool stuff that you can try to pull off heck bullseye. Like where it's like, what does that, what does that look like and how do you make that work? Now being turn order and when you play'em and how you play him, that's gonna have to be something that's experimented with. I think I love her more for the future than I do right this moment. But it's definitely a card that activate is needed.

Alex: 53:54

Say the line. What's she gonna age you like?

Cozy: 53:56

Like, fine beer. How

Alex: 53:58

dare

Cozy: 53:58

you have one job. You got one job. Yeah. Wait for that. Uh, but yeah, I, I think I'm going more for the four here. And uh, and bonus points for not calling it Joe Casta. You know, I think, uh, Alex, you deserve a, uh, a small clap for that as well, but, uh, thank you. Yeah, dude, I mean, definitely cool things You could work out Invisible Woman, obviously. How crazy she's been is gonna be a clear cut stupid card with this at times. So it's, it has its ability to have crazy pop off, but I think the creativity here is a lot of fun.

Alex: 54:29

Yeah. And like, it's one of those cars that, like today I'm like, I, I haven't started the deck building side of it yet. And as it gets closer, I think, especially as the meta shakes and shifts. Yo Costa's ability and applicability is gonna become more obvious. Like right now, today, this is a card that is so, it's such a combo piece for those types of cards. Yeah, we need to see what the meta is. Now it's always gonna be relevant because of the way it works. It almost feels like adjacent to Invisible Woman First Steps, where it's a support card that's fully, it's fully reliant on the abilities of the cards it's interacting with. You know what I mean? And for that reason, I think Yo Ocosta could be potentially powerful, but what really surprises me, it's a three, three. They released Invisible Woman for steps at fi at three five, and that card has been relatively meta. Why is Yo Costa two power two power weaker?

Cozy: 55:21

I think just in the future, everything that could come out with it. And obviously Cobra, you know, they just, they can't have that synergy. Be the synergy be too good, you know, to have Cobra destroy two creative cards. Alex like. Much. We, we It's too much. Too much. Can't a one deck meta much. Yeah. You can't have a one deck meta. You know they, that's why we, we gave, uh, big shout out to Glenn over there, but next up buddy. This look at this is just, man, look at this beautiful card right here. Love it. This is gonna be the next Jeff, the Land Shark two costs one power card. Awesome, Andy. Awesome. Andy. Awesome. Alex, activate, give one of your cards at each other. Location plus two power, Alex. Sure. I think it's, uh, it's, it's fine. It's a card. I don't think it's a good card. It's not a bad card. It's not a good card. I think it's a, if you have it and you play it down and you, you get a two five, maybe you can use Ocosta on it. Maybe you throw it's so, you don't think this is

Alex: 56:16

bad?

Cozy: 56:17

I don't think it's a horrible, I don't think it's a one. I don't think it's a one. I think it's a two.

Alex: 56:21

Okay. I was gonna say if you gave it like a three or four, I'd be like, like a three and a half. What are we doing? I know you're tired, but come on bro. This is like this, you know, that like meme like, oh we have blank at home. This is Herbie at home. Like to me, this is so inferior to Herbie and Herbie's struggling to see play right now despite it being a good card.

Cozy: 56:38

But Herbie doesn't look as handsome.

Alex: 56:41

This guy's pretty sw. He's pretty sw. Um, but I dunno, he looks like he can give a good headbutt. I'll give him that. I

Cozy: 56:48

thought you were going somewhere else with that. Yeah, his uh, uh, and I love his Hello Necklace. I might have to, you might, you should cosplay this guy for Halloween.

Alex: 56:56

Yeah, you

Cozy: 56:57

can pull it off. That's

Alex: 56:57

Likeactually a good idea. Do I look like Awesome, awesome. Alex,

Cozy: 57:00

You do. You could, you could pull it off. Put the hello on there and all. Uh, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Does he have six fingers on his right? No, that's chalk. Okay. Nevermind. I was gonna

Alex: 57:08

say AI generated, confirmed.

Cozy: 57:10

Doesn't that look like one of his fingers, but just He's

Alex: 57:12

definitely holding chalk because he drew Hello? On the chalkboard.

Cozy: 57:15

He's holding it like Yeah, it's just a little, a little awkward. Yeah, it's just weird for the stat line. I, I don't know. I, I think you should have a higher payoff for the risk factor and yeah, you could do things with the plus two power and giving that maybe this is your on curve Surfer card that you're waiting for.

Alex: 57:31

No, I don't think that's even, so it's like, what was the risk of this being two, three? Like why does it have to be two one? Like I don't understand the stat. Like it just does not seem like a high risk card. Like I understand oh plus two, that's technically to two five if it goes out. But like, bro, what are we doing here?

Cozy: 57:44

The Rvo Synergy, Alex? The Rvo Synergy. Oh, Savona. Synergy. Omega Sentinel Here.

Alex: 57:50

You just bounced right off and you're like, screw Outta, screw Andy

Cozy: 57:53

by Andy Four three Omega here is gonna have activate inflict the highest power enemy card with negative seven power. Wow. That's kind of cool. You know, it's like, uh, you're not shing it and killing it completely, but you are putting negative seven on it and it can work on any, you know, it can work on anything that's over there and that can definitely turn the tide, turn the tides a battle. It is a four cost car with an Activ ability, so that's a little scary. And it's only three power, Alex. So it's got its cons, but I think it does have its pros too.

Alex: 58:30

So there's a couple things that came to mind. First of all, this looks like, uh, like claw and nebula's child. I'm just gonna throw that out there. Um, but I will say, doesn't it look exactly like if Nebula Claw had a baby?

Cozy: 58:40

No. Yeah. No. Is it, is exactly that. That's the Lord Bill.

Alex: 58:44

Is it? Is that the actual lore?

Cozy: 58:45

Yeah. They had a, they had like three kids. Wait, claw and Nebula? Yeah, they had three, I forgot the name of the other two, but they had three or four kids.

Alex: 58:55

You're not joking. They're, wait, they're canonically like together.

Cozy: 58:58

I thought you were joking when you said Omega looks like their kid. I was like, oh, well yeah. Well, yeah.

Alex: 59:04

Oh my gosh. No, I had no idea. Why would Nebula have any sort of romantic relationship with Claw claws? Like a legit bad guy? What is Nebula isn't Nebula in some, in some like storylines of guardians? She's in the guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah.

Cozy: 59:19

More of a, I mean, I guess

Alex: 59:19

she had, she had to get there

Cozy: 59:21

more of like a gray je eye kind of thing.

Alex: 59:24

Yeah, like a tta.

Cozy: 59:25

Yeah, there you go. Had to find her way. Someone commented, the other two kids down in the commons below the names of them. Listen, when you look at this card, Alex, your cost of throwing out 14, 14 power over there, maybe an Ajax stack. I like the highs of it, but the lows do scare me.

Alex: 59:41

Okay. So once a month I go for a home run swing, right? Where I kind of, I kind of put a big bet down that everyone can get mad about or like, you know, just roast me on nonstop. I think Omega Sentinel might be low key, one of the best of the month.

Cozy: 59:53

I think that's a good, I like Nicole. I like the, you like it? Okay. Hold on. I thought

Alex: 59:56

I was getting okay. I thought I was going high here. I'm going 4.5. Like I really like this card a lot. So I think four point five's high. Maybe four. No, I'll go 4.5. Let's see what happens.

Cozy: 1:00:05

So does the, my only question of concern is you just went on about how only two turns of play to get the relevance out, you know, does scare you. It's the same thing here, right? I mean, it's exists. Exactly. Okay. So that doesn't scare you. The same as

Alex: 1:00:19

I find four. You just make it 4.524 Kaz Cozy.

Cozy: 1:00:24

Okay. That's what I

Alex: 1:00:24

just

Cozy: 1:00:24

typed. Fair enough. Yeah, I, I want to go three and a half. I think that the two turns are tough, but other than that, it's a home run hit. I mean, this card is gonna be great. A negative seven swing is awesome. Playing that down is gonna dramatically change. They do get to plan around it too. Like they see the, they see this come down, you know, and you, they're gonna have some time to react on turn six. Right. Like in some form or fashion. But doesn't mean they can react, I'm just saying they could, if they wanted to, if they wanted to switch Wayne's. But this, you know what, this is such a cool, like. Lane hold. Oh no, no. You

Alex: 1:00:53

just said something. That's important though.'cause I think everyone's gonna read it that way. I've read this over and over again and it took me a while to realize it doesn't specify the lane. I think it'll hit any card on the board. Oh, and I'm so glad you said that'cause I bet you a ton of people thought that too. And I have to like take my glasses off and read it again. It doesn't specify the lane, dude. I think it's battlefield wide. It does,

Cozy: 1:01:13

it is battlefield wide for sure. They would put it, they would say in this location or whatever. You're right that, that is pretty cool. It's still the, the two turns scare me. But I do think that this is a very good, like this is a great piece tech piece that's gonna work that if it was like a three would be like there, there's like three with lower pa it would be way too good. So the I, because of the turns, you would have to activate it. This is one of those though that if you draw it on curve, like you, your chances of winning go up so high. Like I feel like that's just, and if you don't and it's like a turn six draw, it's like, damn. But will it win you more than it loses? Certainly.

Alex: 1:01:47

Yeah, and one thing I should also mention is we just talked about Ocosta, right? Yeah.

Cozy: 1:01:51

That's a crazy combo. Like your Costa can

Alex: 1:01:52

double dip on this. And remember, because it's not specifying the lien, it'll hit two different targets because if it's two different procs, one will go down negative seven and it's very unlikely that card is still the remaining highest power card. It'll drop another card by negative seven. So you're actually, you might even attack two locations doing that. It's a little more on the random side, but what I was thinking about too is like, so four three naturally is the line for Shanxi. Now Shanxi has a higher high, but also has a lower floor you can miss with Shanxi. Shanxi is also reserved for turn six, whereas this here, even if they never play a 10 power card, will always hit something right? And so I feel like Shanxi as annoying as that card is, and it has a amazingly high ceiling, especially with what Fenris does, but Fenner's got Nerfed. Omega Sentinel probably has a higher floor than Shanxi does because no matter what the effect provided out on turn 3, 4, 5, if you have Zbu. It is always good. Unless they have Luke Cage, I guess.

Cozy: 1:02:50

So you play out, you play out like Lasher. Okay. And then you do Yo Costa, so you nuke that lane. You can put something else in there too. You nuke that lane and then you have Omega Sentinel in there that gets the activate. You do sentinel before the Geo Costa and then you kill that lane, you kill the other lanes and they're left with, uh, hoping they have Luke Cage. That's it. Yeah, that's

Alex: 1:03:12

it. This Luke Cage code. This, this card's gonna suck on the release. Oh. Actually not even,'cause it's not even the series five packs. Right. Which just slides in a series four. And I think there's so many cards coming out at once that most people don't even pay attention to these.

Cozy: 1:03:24

That's true. And it doesn't come out with any other negative cards at least. So like, it's like kind of in its own merit for that. Yeah. Interesting. I like it. I think this is a good take. I think I like the take there that this, you like the take that this thing could be pretty good. I know you're looking to

Alex: 1:03:37

move on, but one, I do want one more thing to say. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I wonder if it's gonna be good in Ajax. It's probably fine. I think so. Yeah, but it's gonna compete with like malki and man thing. And I think that those cards might be better for that because like, this is cool'cause it's a very vertical hit, right? Yeah. It almost feels like, like, uh, it almost feels like, oh wait, is there Galactus synergy here? I just like that it's another lane. Yeah. Ooh. If they put a power No, that's too cheeky. I, I was just thinking what if you duff something in the Galactus lane and then throw the Galactus down? But what I'm trying to say is, is that the four costs man thing hits more cards, right? And so Ajax benefits from more cards. Malki pulls the now three costed Luke Cage, or Luke, sorry, three of hazmat or Luke cage or whatever. So I wonder if those cards are just more valuable for the Ajax decks. But yeah, cerebral three.

Cozy: 1:04:31

Cerebral three. It's an awesome cook. I think this is such a fun card for cerebral three. Why not? You know, it's just pure, it's purely built for that in some ways, which is why. What claw back in the day. Anyway, we've got next up super. Is it oid? OID wasn't super oid. Adapt. Oh, I missed the DI missed the D. It was a D. Yeah. Adapt, adapt, adapt. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know why I missed that second letter in there. Dude, this looks this is like. This is a cool looking hero. I like this guy.

Alex: 1:05:07

This reminds me of Beetle Borks. Do you remember those?

Cozy: 1:05:10

Yeah, dude. Wow. Okay. That's a shadow.

Alex: 1:05:13

Yeah, I know.

Cozy: 1:05:13

I was gonna go, yeah, something outta Ninja Turtles, but yeah, maybe that's just'cause the green's overwhelming or like a run scape armor. It's a three cost, five power card on reveal. Steal the text from an enemy activate card here. So you've got great power at three, five activates. A lot of the time you like to wait for that to come out. You wanna wait for it. This is a very needed tech piece in which I think could be a complicated activate meta that could happen eventually with these cards coming out. Uh, and 3.5. This is good. I mean, this is gonna be a good little, uh, little counter play here.

Alex: 1:05:44

This is cool. I like this card a lot. I want this card. Yep. Now I think it's probably gonna release as a three. Okay, but this is another age like fine wine card. Yep. And I, I also wanna give second dinner credit here. They're also releasing a series four tech piece into a season where they're adding tons of activate cards. Yeah. So we don't have to wait an entire month. So if one of them goes crazy or pop off or whatever, there is gonna be a lesser expensive tech option. So this is good design by the second entity. This is, this is player friendly design from a release standpoint. So thank you for that. This could have been a series five, like a red guardian or whatever, and it could have been frustrating so that they deserve credit on that. Um, super Adapto is purely a h uh, HI fine wine card. Yeah. I think that this is the kind of card that's always gonna get better as new activates come up.

Cozy: 1:06:31

I don't think he's, yeah. Fantastic now mainly because if you can think about it, the, the ones and the two activate, it's like, yeah, you have ris, you have some other cards that can fit in there. But you need them to play'em. And then if you play'em and you have him in your hand at that time, then yeah, you can steal it early. Most of the time you're not playing'em on three though, almost mo I would say a good chunk of the time, unless you have something out there that you wanted to take early, like the Herbie or whatever, the invisible woman. So maybe you play'em on four and then you play an under. Like it's a very interesting card and I think it is gonna be better as it continues. And sometimes you don't even want the Activ ability as well, like in the case of, I don't know, kid Omega. So like it, it's interesting, but I also think it will get a lot better in the future.

Alex: 1:07:10

Yeah. So they play like your opponent of plays down as hat hand Andy. And then you play super adapt weight on top, steal the plus two power activate. That's amazing. But like, here's the thing. So I was thinking about this. This is a three five, right? It's basically the rogue of on of activate. Mm-hmm. Rogue is a three two. Like the stats are wildly different now. Obviously Ro gets more stuff

Cozy: 1:07:31

way better ongoing cards. Yeah. Out there I think is really, but not to say that this thing doesn't, like this could very well get nerfed one day just'cause there's so many better activate stuff in the future

Alex: 1:07:40

as activates come down this, sorry. As activates come out, this goes to three four to three three than three, two.

Cozy: 1:07:47

Yeah. Just continues to go down as they get better. But for now, three, five is where they found the balance. Uh, what do you have'em at?

Alex: 1:07:54

I have him down as three and then I said four star eventually.

Cozy: 1:07:59

Yeah, I think he could be potentially worse. I don't know if he ever hits, hits four star. I think he's two. Yeah, I think he's two and a half. That goes to three and a half.

Alex: 1:08:06

Yeah, I, you know what, I agree with that more. Okay. Um, I'll, I'll stick with three'cause that's what I had said, but I agree. I think your range is approximately correct. It'll age fine.

Cozy: 1:08:14

Dangers are last card coming in Deadpool's Diner, a forecast I believe forecast six power card activate, destroy an enemy card here with less power. Very interesting card that can build quite nicely. I always like when they get the game mode cards to kind of synergize with season pass cards and what you can build it in. What's your thoughts on danger?

Alex: 1:08:36

I'm not sold on this one. I'm going two stars on danger. I don't think this is great. First of all, four six is not a great stat line. You are unable to target the card. You destroy, you activate, you destroy card. You're like, well, if you can destroy a serer that hasn't proced yet at three, five or whatever, that's five. That's basically a four or 11. But yeah, but what if they have a hood sitting there, right? Like you can't target. So what if someone played squirrel girl and the squirrels everywhere? What if they're playing hood? As I said, like I think the inability to target really prevents this card from being good, especially at a four six where there's so many four 10 borderline stop lines.

Cozy: 1:09:09

Yeah. And if you could, if you could prioritize their highest po, like if there's an ascending order, then it's like, oh, cool. Like totally. You could build decks that are unique to this, but for sure, and there's just so many decks that spam out cards and you just have no control over it. And you can even just red guardian it a little bit quicker, a little bit easier and, and shut that down. Whatever it might be. I, not for this card, but for the card maybe you're even wanting to target. So I think it's cool. I think there are ways you can build it and, and do get that. Benefit off of it, but yeah, I'm not, I'm not too wild about it. Unless, I don't know, maybe you throw it into Ariss. It's just weird. I don't know. I I, it's got a couple, like a two. You're giving a two y

Alex: 1:09:47

Yeah, I'm too, like I think LDS is simply better. Like I would rather play LDS, like she's more expensive, but I don't like this card. I don't think it's a good one.

Cozy: 1:09:55

So top to bottom brother. Let's rank the cards for the season number one. I think we both have the same

Alex: 1:10:00

I for, so first of all, I forgot to write this all down. I usually plan this in advance and that's like, I forgot what this, I have no idea.

Cozy: 1:10:05

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna be

Alex: 1:10:06

Okay. So we're just gonna both riff it. Okay. That's good. Alright. Top card for me is gonna be Vivid vision.

Cozy: 1:10:10

Vi Vision. Okay. Viv is gonna be my top as well.

Alex: 1:10:14

I lean towards, even though my rankings don't, oh, see, this is where it gets tricky. I like Omega Sentinel more, but I don't think Omega sentinel's necessarily better than Sparky and I, I wonder if the next card I would rank is actually gonna be Warlock.

Cozy: 1:10:31

I was gonna say Warlocks my two.

Alex: 1:10:33

Really? Mm-hmm. I can see, here's the thing. I can see Sparky being better than Warlock, but I, and I like Omega Sentinel better than both, but I think Warlock probably is ultimately across the game gonna be better. So I'd go Warlock two,

Cozy: 1:10:47

I'll go Omega-3.

Alex: 1:10:49

You want Omega Sentinel three?

Cozy: 1:10:50

Mm-hmm.

Alex: 1:10:51

I like it more than Sparky, but I think Sparky might be better. I'll do Sparky three and

Cozy: 1:10:55

then I'll charge just Sparky. I'll have Sparky after that. Uh, and

Alex: 1:10:58

then I'll do the omega sound. It's funny how we rank these sometimes.'cause omega sendal I, I have at the higher star rating, but like that's'cause I just like the card. I like the design.

Cozy: 1:11:07

Okay.

Alex: 1:11:08

Um, one of these days we'll figure out what these star ratings actually mean.

Cozy: 1:11:10

One, one of the days Ocosta is next up for me.

Alex: 1:11:13

Ocosta. I agree. Yes. Ocosta is next for me as well.

Cozy: 1:11:15

Passion is next.

Alex: 1:11:20

Bastion versus Moira X. I would go bastion over mo. Moira X.

Cozy: 1:11:26

You like Moira X over super cable. I

Alex: 1:11:29

would. That's actually hard. Moira versus uh uh, the super adapto. I think that, I'm think gooID right now. Moira is better but you probably want super OID eventually.

Cozy: 1:11:39

Yeah. I'll go super oid Moira and then I'll end with danger and then no sorry. Danger. And then end with human torch.

Alex: 1:11:45

Oh yeah. I forgot about the human torch. Wait, wait. You just jumped through. You missed a cart as well.

Cozy: 1:11:49

Oh

Alex: 1:11:49

you missed uh, asset handy.

Cozy: 1:11:51

Oh God, yeah. Put in as that handy right above. Uh. Ooh. Yeah. Put it, put it above, below. Danger.

Alex: 1:12:00

No, I'm confused as hell. Alright. I'm gonna say Moira oid. I would go then Danger and then as hat handy.

Cozy: 1:12:12

And then the humanoid. I don't think

Alex: 1:12:13

Awesome. Andy's good. I don't do that card at

Cozy: 1:12:15

all. And then, and then Human Torch.

Alex: 1:12:17

Oh, human torch too. I forgot about Human torch. Yeah, I think human torch sucks. If the fall in one stuff works, he's better. But I'm thinking it might not.

Cozy: 1:12:26

That's fair. I don't know. We need to find out. There's so, there's so many cars that come out now. It's just so crazy. It's like, it's just wild how many they pump out in one, in one season, bro. But we did it. We went through'em all. We will be held accountable for them guys. Gimme a mega episode here on this beautiful Monday. Any last things you wanna add before the season before we jump into the Snapchat mailbag?

Alex: 1:12:47

You know, I just think that, um, I. For what it's worth. I think that second dinner's design team did cook. These are good cards. Yeah, I think that, uh, they're also flavorful, like the way Moira works, right. Based on her superpowers and mutant, which kinda like recalls past lives and stuff like that. And then you have Bastion the way he works, creating sentinels in the hand essentially at two threes. A lot of care went into the design here and I think that's cool. I think we could jump into the mailbag. There's some fun stuff here. Alright. Hit us with

Cozy: 1:13:13

the mailbag questions, Mr. Alex.

Alex: 1:13:15

Alright. Um, alright. This is actually kind of funny. So first of all, start the Portland. Kevin said it was great to meet Alex Dexter and Gregor and some of the second dinner team at Pax. Alex brought that perfect, uh, teacher energy that got us all excited, but still reigned it in at the same time. It was an awesome time and Cozy should be flying up next year.

Cozy: 1:13:37

Did they go back and comment on the Snapchat episode? Yes. That's very nice. Then I will most definitely be going into a pacs here, uh, soon. A'cause I love magic B'cause, uh, Alex, uh, I love Alex. Two things I, two things that I love. Uh, how are we not starting with the quesadilla? Enchilada? Can we, we gotta just get right. What can on, there were not many comments about that actually about the enchiladas. That's, I I find that hard to do. No,

Alex: 1:14:02

There was a comment though about, okay, I'll dig

Cozy: 1:14:05

deeper. I'm going into it right now. I'll,

Alex: 1:14:06

you're gonna try you, you don't believe me. You're just try to hunt it down.

Cozy: 1:14:09

There's no way.

Alex: 1:14:11

Okay. In the meantime, while you hunt, we do have a question from Big Owl four 20, which is a fantastic name. I love that so much. And it is about food though, and I have a little story about this. Normally I'm on the side of Alex, just waffling, but I fully understand chicken balls might be a UK thing, but chicken balls that you dip in sweet and sour sauce are legit. We also have sweet and sour Hong Kong style, which is like deep fried chicken pieces in sweet and sour sauce. So the story that goes along with this, I had the absolute privilege of having dinner with, uh, a team from China who are huge fans of the Snapchat, Cozy, huge fans of the Snapchat. Okay? And they said, Alex we keep hearing about these Chinese chicken balls. We have no idea what they are. And as soon as they said, I'm thinking, I'm like, if the team from China doesn't know what I'm talking about, I think I'm gonna take an L here. Right? You take the L. So I'm like, alright guys. So I pulled it up on my phone and I showed them, I showed them the chicken balls and they all just started howling, just laughing. And they're like, no, that is definitely like an American invention thing. Like we, that's not Chinese.

Cozy: 1:15:16

I'm not even 1% surprised at this. Like, not, not even one, not even one. That'd be like, uh, showing, I don't know. Someone who, who has never seen McDonald's and they make burgers. They grill on the grill and they're like, oh yeah, yeah. Here's a great burger too. Check this out. And it's, it's the paper thin garbage. But listen, enough for this. I went straight to this video, bro. The last Snapchat, all the comments off the board, top of the board. They're not questions, they're just statements. I'm gonna read'em. First up, I, I'm not even gonna say the names you got. Every time I think I can relate to Alex. He says something like a quesadilla. Like an omelet. Alright, so that's number.

Alex: 1:15:49

That's number one. All right. Oh, I just realized what I did. I made a mistake. I went to the q and a section on my prior video. What do you mean? That's why I made a mistake. I'm on your video. We talking to enchiladas on yours? Yes. Oh, that's my mistake. I pulled the wrong question back. No,

Cozy: 1:16:03

no, no, no. This is on yours. The enchilada was last week. What? I just didn't see it then. No, you're crazy. No, listen to this bro. Next up, Alex. Not knowing what enchiladas or quesadillas are are hilarious. Top comment under that is it's like an omelet. I think that was the true, the omelet comparison is what send people and that that truly, I think and then literally just, I can keep going. This is in a sending order. Alex. Not knowing what quesadilla is. Quesadilla is, is actually absolutely crazy. Uh, and I can keep going. So Alex, I do wanna say they were there. They were in there. And as a Mexican hearing, Alex say that real tacos, he had had bread and that quesadillas are like omelets. He gave me an aneurysm. All right. That's. That's a great one. That was a good question there. I like that one. And they don't even questions, they're just statements. I don't even think people had questions. They were just like, this is what has to happen. Uh, don't worry guys, when he comes to San Diego for TwitchCon, I'm gonna get this man fed. We get him. It's so

Alex: 1:16:58

funny, man. That is so hilarious. You got another Snapchat? All right, we got, we got a couple more. We got a couple more. But before we get into them, if you notice the white dot right near my face there, I want you to comment White dot gameplay because means happens every once in a while.

Cozy: 1:17:11

Yeah, yeah. They made it this long in session before I talk.

Alex: 1:17:13

Go ahead. Yeah. So our guy boy said, did anyone else see a bundle in the shop with four series five collectors packs, and a ton of boosters? Oh, yeah. The bundle said it would be there for five days and it got taken away near immediately.

Cozy: 1:17:26

Oh, bro. Yeah, dude, it wouldn't be a snapshot. There wasn't just like a random second dinner. L Yeah. Didn't they release this pack? This is another thing I saw on Twitter. It's like, they released this pack, bro. I get you. Not like I'm on Twitter. I see like second dinner. W like, they listen, they love, and then they released a statement that pack should not have been released.

Alex: 1:17:46

Yeah, so I was live on stream. I pulled it up. It was like, it was, I think it was like$69 Canadian, which is probably 50 bucks American. It must've been like around$10 a card range, plus a whole bunch of boosters and stuff. Series five,$10 per series five. It was such a double. I was like, this is actually like really good value. And then it was gone and they apologized. Like that to me is crazy. I was like, guys, come on. Like, what are we doing? Yeah, they gotta invent their own LS at some point, right? Mm-hmm. Like, they're just like, Hey guys, we haven't had any, everyone pissed off us in two weeks. We have to do something.

Cozy: 1:18:16

We gotta, you guys know the work motto here, bring the LS weekly. They do it. Hit us with the last question,

Alex: 1:18:22

the last one. It goes off of a comment that you had made last week Cozy, and it's from Jason B who said, not even joking. I would never watch a Sh Chi movie or read a comic now, all because of Snap.

Cozy: 1:18:36

There it is. I knew someone, I knew that. And that you're not alone. I'm sure there are more of you out there and. There'll be Sparky fans and or Sparky hatred and who knows what Omega said? No. Anyway, guys, thank you so much for coming over to the Snapchat and the longer episode of ranking these cards. I will say I'm most likely out for the next couple episodes between my child being born and I will be doing some casting work on our recording days, which is gonna be tough, but I will be back. I will be ready and, uh, excited for it. Uh, I'll be naming my second kid after Alex kocha, uh, and name him Omelet. Guys, thank you for coming. Have a good one. Have a great one. Subscribe to Alex to the next one. Happy snapping.