Heralds of Galactus Season Breakdown | Every Card Ranked | The Snap Chat Ep. 143

Will Red Shift make Agatha decks viable? What are the implications of Stardust and Cosmic Ghost Rider? Are Frankie Raye Nova and The Fallen One the new powerhouses? How will Firelord and Air Walker synergize? Join Alex and special guest Dexter as they analyze new Marvel Snap card releases, share funny skunk stories, and discuss their upcoming PAX West plans.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
• 0:37 Raccoon and Skunk Story
• 4:28 Marvel Snap Discussion
• 8:35 Galactus First Steps Analysis
• 16:44 Silver Surfer First Steps Analysis
• 27:59 Stardust and Other Upcoming Cards
• 40:49 Exploring Frankie Raye and Hand Buff Strategies
• 41:49 Deck Building Considerations and Synergies
• 45:23 Meta Analysis and Card Ratings
• 46:03 High-Level Play and Personal Ranks
• 49:38 New Series Five Card: The Fallen One
• 55:20 Series Four Cards: Redshift and TerraX
• 1:10:40 Series Four Cards: Firelord and Air Walker
• 1:14:54 PAX West and Closing Remarks

Transcript

Alex: 0:00

Hey everyone, and welcome to the next edition of the Snapchat. Today I'm joined by a very special guest. Today we have Dexter Dexter. How are you doing, my man? And, uh, just as we went live here, you told me that you were born ready. This is the moment you've been waiting for, for a long time. Welcome to the Snapchat, my friend. I, I knew

Dekkster: 0:17

it, I knew it would happen. Eventually Cozy would tap out, and I'd be here in my, my rightful place as co-host of Snapchats.

Alex: 0:26

Man, that's, it's so funny that, uh, you know, you mentioned that Cozy iss obviously on location in China right now, and, uh, we do wish him the best as he, uh, starts the Marvel Rivals Ignite Tournament, casting it and hosting it. Uh, but in the meantime, I actually have a bit of a fun story for you, Dexter. Um, I dunno if you know this, but I live kind of like outside of Toronto, but on a survey that's like the last one before it turns into like vineyards and like a bunch of farmland. Okay. So we get a lot of animals in our survey because like, it's like kind of the first survey they wander into. And so, um, anyways, we've had a raccoon ripping apart everything on our property, like my kids' toys, the garbages ripping up everything. And this has happened before and I tend to try to be like very good with the animals. Like we have like all these like, like humane traps. We trap the animals then like we release them like kind of like down the street in a vineyard and stuff like that. I've done that with squirrels that've been like trapped in like our attic or our walls or something random. But like, anyways, so we have this raccoon and last time we had a raccoon do this, it actually tore a massive hole in our roof. And then what happened was, is we only realized the hole was there when it rained. And my daughter was like, Hey daddy, it's raining in my room. And so that's bad, right? So listen to this deck. So Simone's like, you gotta put a trap up, you gotta get this raccoon right. I'm like, all right, great. And you're probably thinking, Alex probably caught a rabid raccoon. And this is where the story's going. Not at all. I put out the trap. The trap says you're supposed to put cat food in there to, to attract the raccoon. So anyways, day it goes by, you know, it's nighttime into morning. And, uh, I wake up in the morning, I go and I actually go to, uh, get something in like the rear yard where I put the trap and I forgot the trap was there. I open the gate door and I walk in and all of a sudden I get sprayed by a skunk, right? Oh no, I get sprayed by a skunk. And it's a skunk that is now trapped in the cage. I trapped a skunk, one of the only animals that you cannot effectively move in a cage, nor can you effectively release it. And I just got sprayed. And the, in my defense, the spray was like, kind of like a warning shot. Like, it wasn't like a full out, like I got smoked by it, but I definitely was like, yeah, these clothes are going in the garbage, dude. Oh. I was like watching YouTube videos, trying to figure out how to get rid of this skunk. And then like people like were quoting us like$300 for the skunk and that's just to open the cage. Not even like relocate the skunk, just open the cage and let it go. You know what I had to do, dude? I had to get a blanket and I had to slowly sneak up on the skunk while he's staring at me and literally lifting his butt at my head. Okay. And I slowly over like five minutes, lowered the blanket over the cage so that he calmed down. Once he calmed down, I waited about a minute, I stood over the cage, like I was straddling it like a horse and just lifted the gate and the skunk just like waddled away. It just like went do, do. And waddled away just, and I'm like, oh man, I should have told my neighbors.'cause he wandered right into the backyard where there was like dogs. And then the dogs started barking. I was like, oh bro. I just went inside. That's my story

Dekkster: 3:20

for today. Oh my. Why don't you record this stuff? I feel like you have all these crazy stories. Like this is, this is content, man. Well, I,

Alex: 3:27

I don't have a video of me getting initially sprayed'cause I was kind of caught by surprised by it, to be honest with you. But I do have pictures of the skunk.

Dekkster: 3:34

I have no skunk stories. It's I'm so sorry you got sprayed.

Alex: 3:38

Yeah, it's okay. It wasn't the worst. And you know what happened? My daughter was like, my kids were in the house and they're like, everything smells. It smells'cause it was like right outside my house. And these things wreak man. It was awful. Yeah. And it smelled in the house and the kids were all crying'cause it smelled so bad and you can't even open the windows.'cause it smells horrible outside too. So we took them to like one of those indoor play pa places to like calm down for a little bit. So anyways if you're going to be like, uh, you know, catching wild animals don't catch skunks because they are a pain But I don't think you needed me to tell you that Dexter, they, they like, how was your.

Dekkster: 4:12

My week was good. I no skunk attacks. My dog pooped on my rugs this morning.

Alex: 4:18

Okay,

Dekkster: 4:19

nice. Um, that's about it, but, uh, that's, that's not too bad. Cleaning up a rug versus getting sprayed by a skunk. I'll take it. Um, what else? That's it. I've just played a lot of Marvel Snap. I'm actually enjoying the game a lot, which is maybe a hot take, but, yeah. Wait a minute. Hold on, hold

Alex: 4:36

on. You're enjoying Marvel Snap?

Dekkster: 4:39

Yeah. Would you like to expand on that? Well, I, I think it's the best, uh, digital card game still. I still feel like it's, uh, it's a lot of fun if you're playing the right stuff. Also, maybe I'm a little biased'cause I like have a full collection, compared to like the normal player. But, uh, it's, are you not? Enjoying it.

Alex: 4:59

It's good. No, I've been thoroughly enjoying Marvel Snap. I'm still one of the few enjoyers of Marvel Snap. It's just, that is, is it a hot take, perhaps? I mean, I, I was literally just watching you play C four, so maybe that was part of your enjoyment.

Dekkster: 5:11

C four is good. It's really good right now. Yeah. We'll see if, uh, if the new season changes anything, but I don't think I will.

Alex: 5:18

But yeah, and like, I honestly have been enjoying Marvel Snap. Um, I think that the Grand Arena has been a great inclusion into the game. I'm really hoping that they continue to lean into the grand arena. In fact, I had kind of floated the idea, uh, in prior weeks that I think it would be cool if like, there was like 10 arena commanders every single month. Like give rid of conquest, like whatever. I know there's people like conquest, whatever. Get rid of it. And then what you do is you have what? Do you like Conquest? No,

Dekkster: 5:41

I think it's bad. They should delete it. Um, I, I don't know how they would bring it as like a limited mode because it's like a infinite conquest. You have to like grind tickets or whatever, but I just, I kind of. I it made, it made my hair fall out. That's why I'm Bolt.'cause I played conquest like last week. That's

Alex: 5:57

fair. What what I had suggested was every single month what you do is you have like 10 new champions or commanders and they all have their own unique skills and those 10 rotate every single month. So one month it's like the Avengers. The next month it's like, Knowles Minions and the next month it's uh, villains of whatever Heralds of Galactus or whatever. Right. And they rotate every single month. I thought that'd been cool because I actually really liked the game boat. I actually thought that the initial original energy, like the extra energy I should say, that they gave you made a huge difference. Starting turn one with two energy completely changes all the lines in the way you play the game. Outside of just the skill. Like I really liked that new game mode.

Dekkster: 6:36

Yeah. I loved it. Especially like for the first day I played so much of it and I planned on playing more of it and then it turned into like tech slot.

Alex: 6:44

Yeah. Which

Dekkster: 6:44

I didn't really enjoy. Um, I think they adjusted that, but I feel like it was a little bit too late. And at that point I just prefer playing ladder'cause I like seeing my number go up or down. Um, but I think, yeah, I think Grand Arena has a lot of potential. I do like the idea of like getting rid of Prebus and just having, or sorry, keeping the prebus, getting rid of the, the customs. And then they could just cycle through them and adjust them. So nothing's too op. And uh, I think that'd be really fun. I think it's really good for new players. But I know a lot of people tried it out. I tried to get a lot of my old friends who like quit. They used to really love Snap and then they quit. I was like, Hey, come try out this new mode and see if it's fun. Like it's, uh, it's free to play and they, they just uninstalled again. They just didn't like it enough to bring them back in. But we'll see. It is like commander of of Snap. That's kind of cool. Right.

Alex: 7:40

It is cool. And I think one of the challenges though, and I had like a, I have one particular friend who like stopped playing Snap a little while ago and I had told him to give the game a shot. And I think what he said was essentially is like it's an insurmountable hill to climb to try to catch up. Like he, he doesn't want to be competitive, but when he's playing he wants to be competitive again. Like he, when he starts to get back into it, he wants to be able to do the, and he watches my like top 10 video, whatever. He's like, I can't build any of these. And I've been even incorporating like, budget versions of stuff and sometimes you still can't even build those. So it's like, it's, I understand the frustration, right? And it's almost like, well, you're back in it. And then like, you know, you're playing these prebuilt decks and then you're getting hit with Enchanter, Chachi, like on turn five and six, or even sometimes a discounted version of them on six built together. So yeah, like I under, I absolutely agree there's a lot of tech swap, uh, prebuilt versus prebuilt matchmaking. And custom versus custom matchmaking might've been an option as well. But I actually really liked the first day it was awesome when the, when the meta wasn't figured out, that first day playing prebuilt, it really was the best. Now you did mention C four. We talked about the grand arena, but what we have not yet talked about is whether or not the meta is gonna completely shift under the weight of Galactus. Fantastic. Four first steps. Dexter, this is now the new premium season pass card. It'll cost you 10 bucks to unlock galactus. Fantastic. Four first steps. And yes, you're seeing some very high production value on this, uh, on this here podcast. We're scrolling right through the blog. You're getting the official block stuff here. Galactus First Steps a six 12 that reads My Herald is the next character. I see you play end of turn, plus two power if you're winning my Herald's location. And that happens whether Galactus is in hand or in play. Dexter,

Dekkster: 9:20

what are you thinking? I think, uh, that last text there, if hand or in play is kind of what kills the card. I think he's gonna be not great. I feel like Red Hulk's just straight up better. If he gained power while he was in your deck, I think he'd be something good. Then you can like try and do some lock, jaw blink sort of stuff where you pull'em outta your deck or you kind of just throw'em in some hella deck and try and just bring them out. I feel like you have to cheat'em out. And at that point I still feel like there's a lot of better options out there. End of turn, stuff is cool. Well, not really. It's kind of frustrating in its current state. And I think, uh, yeah, like invisible woman end of turn stuff is not gonna fit this in it. So it's, it's just, it's a bit, it's a bit weird and I think it's gonna be one of the weaker season pass cards we've seen in like a year. I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. It's a cool card. It's a cool concept. I like Galactus as a character. But I just think he's not enough.

Alex: 10:19

That's a very interesting take. That's not what I expected. So from a star rating perspective, we usually do one to five stars. What do you think in star rating?

Dekkster: 10:27

Okay, there's six turns, right? Usually, yeah, six to seven. He's like a six, A 6 24. Like at best case scenario. And like Red Hulk, I wouldn't even expect that. Yeah.

Alex: 10:38

Assume that he gets full like

Dekkster: 10:39

six 16 or six 18 regularly. Is that good enough for you? No.'cause you might as well just run Red Hulk or any other thing. You have to cheese this in some other way. I feel like you have to like, I don't know, get this out early and then arm him him, but then he is just 20 power in two lanes or whatever. Like you might as well just do some Knull stuff. I would give this like a three,

Alex: 10:59

three stars. Okay. Much lower than I was expecting. I do mirror some of the concerns you have. But I'm gonna be going with a four star rating. Uh, I do think that it's maybe slightly better than you're giving it credit for. It starts at Vanilla Hulk stats, right? Six 12. Like, that's literally what Vanilla Hulk is. And now if you think about the giganto buff, it makes sense because it is so easy for this to get into that range. Destroyer is a six 16 and you only need two winning location procs to get there, right? And so like, yeah, we had blobs that got to like insanely stupid powers. Like we, we are kind of used to those types of things. But if we're thinking about like what Galactus First Steps might actually do, first of all it feels like saying tore on the card a little bit. Because you're gonna be battling for particular locations. Right. And I think that even if it only pros twice, you're still at six 16, right? Like that's still pretty good. Yeah. Red Hull can get above that, but Red Hulk is relying on your opponent to float energy. Whereas with this you're kind of holding your own destiny and you could be playing cards or even like these tempo, mid-range style decks that try to take advantage of the fact that you're trying to earn initiative, keep initiative and win these locations. I don't know, man. I think it might be slightly better than three, but again, I don't see it as a five star card either. But it still feels like a potentially powerful card in my opinion.

Dekkster: 12:17

Yeah, I mean I hope he is good. He's very flavorful and usually the season pass cards are good, so maybe I'm like missing some sort of interaction. But I'm definitely gonna mess with them. But I feel like there's just better alternatives. I don't know, maybe when they made him, they expected him to be in like fantastic card decks or something. Uh, just making these big end of turn decks.

Alex: 12:38

Yeah, I'm not sure. Um, but I, I do think that six 12, like is a pretty high stat line. Like, I feel like if this card were released like two years ago, I bet you we would've released at six 10. I feel like they juiced it by two power for like the season pass plot armor, and also if it's underperforming, you know, they're gonna buff it. Let's be honest it's, I don't know, man. I don't, I don't see it underperforming like wild. Like I don't see it wildly underperforming expectations. Like, do you think this is like in line of the likes of like a, a blink? Like is that kinda like a good card for the month than largely forgotten about? Or do you think this is like better or worse than that?

Dekkster: 13:13

Well, I think there's a new card coming out that we'll go over shortly. That blink kind of gets ruined by. Um, yes, and it'll definitely check this sort of interaction if it does end up becoming good. So that's another like concern I have, like this is coming out, but they're also immediately releasing something that might be the bane of his existence. But yeah, I don't, I almost feel like a hulking is better than this. Uh, just for the surprise interaction.

Alex: 13:39

That is an insanely hot. There is no way hulking is better than Galactus first steps. There's no way. Like, buddy, have you been sipping on grape juice over there or what?

Dekkster: 13:50

I wish dude, grape juice is grape, but I, I don't know. Hulking is good. I just got ruined by hulking today when I was playing C four because they played it and it hit a freaking leader and the leader copied all my four cost cards. Like what the, what are the odds? But then that stuff is just very surprising. Another thing about Galactus. Which is similar to Red Hole.'cause I think your opponent's gonna know, like his size, right? Yeah. They're gonna know like how girthy he is and like they're gonna see what's coming and they're gonna be able to play around it. And then you're just absolutely crushed by, I don't know, a juggernaut, an NTW whatever. It's very easy to play around stuff like this.

Alex: 14:26

I don't think anyone's ever used the term girth on this podcast. I'm glad you're the first. It's a very, very appropriate statement around Galactus, uh, as a whole, especially in those trailers. I haven't seen Fantastic before the movie yet, but he does seem girthy. But, um, you haven't seen it? I haven't seen it yet, man, I, I can't get out. It's so hard to get out and leave the house for a bit. Neither. If I got to watch, I I had to go by

Dekkster: 14:46

myself. No, we should stop recording. You should go. We, we should go when we're, we're in packs. I'll watch it again. Yeah. Okay. It's an option. It's so good, dude. I really enjoyed it. Yeah.

Alex: 14:56

Alright, we'll think about it. We, we'll actually have to mention that later. We gotta, we gotta pin that conversation'cause we have to talk about Pax later'cause we might have some cool stuff to talk about there. But, uh, anyways, finally on Galacto here, it's gonna be the season pass. So it's gonna cost you that$10, uh, kind of, uh, admission to get into Galacto first step. So perhaps maybe they said, okay, last season was a little spicy with the Fantastic Four. We came in a little hot with Mr. Fantastic. So, well on that note, this, I mean, it's not the greatest comparison. They're very different cards, but as a whole, do you feel like Galactus fantastic. Four First Steps is weaker than the likes of a Mr. Fantastic. Four, uh, first Steps.

Dekkster: 15:31

Oh, a

Alex: 15:31

hundred percent.

Dekkster: 15:32

Really? Yeah. You think it's not even close? Oh, it's not even close. Mr. Fantastic First Steps is like a s tier card. He is like five out of five. This card is questionable at, at best. I think he's fantastic. Yeah. I hope, uh, I mean I really hope I'm, I'm missing some sort of interaction. He'll actually be good.'cause I think that'd be fun. But I don't know if you release an op season pass card, everyone's like, oh, it's paid to win. But if you release a lackluster one, it's like, why didn't they release a better one? And people complain about that. So I don't know. You just can't, you can't win with that. I'm okay with a mid-season pass card, you know? Yeah.

Alex: 16:05

I remember when Gilgamesh came out, people said that that was mid, they buffed it by like, what one? I don't remember. One or two power. And now it's been like, yeah, carrying that entire archetype on its back. It's so crazy what one or two power will do. A lot of people will suggest that like one power means nothing, but like realistically, when was the last time you played noc? Right? All you just played C four. Not a fair question. You might have played. No, I played him a lot. I play him a lot. Yeah. NOC turn is pretty good. See, I ask the wrong person. My example got completely shot down. That's anybody else. It would not have been, it would've been a better example, but not with you. But anyways, man, Galactus first steps, that is gonna be the premium season pass card. But that's not all. Because if you love spending money. We got a super premium season pass card. Now there's two parts to this conversation. One, yes, they're doing the super premium season pass again, and I would like to hear your thoughts on that. And then two, the super premium season pass card, uh, which I takes me practice to even say that sentence over and over again, is a three four Silver Surfer. Fantastic. Four first steps it reads. End of turn, if you're winning this location with an on reveal card copy, its text. First of all, Dexter, what do you think of, uh, second dinner? Going back to the well with the super premium of season pass card.

Dekkster: 17:25

I was hoping they wouldn't do this again. I, I thought this was gonna be like a, like a variant or something different. Not another card. Um. So it's interesting, I, I don't think the card is super good, so maybe that makes it less bad, but also I just wish they wouldn't do that. I feel like they were kind of on the right track with monetization, uh, with the packs and everything making, you know, it easier for people to catch up. But then they started releasing twice as many cards and now there's like a super premium pass. So that kind of just ruins it. And, uh, I think it's creating even like a larger barrier for like free to play players or new players. So kind of sucks.

Alex: 18:07

Do you remember that pocket of time where they did a massive series drop and announced, then released Sir, uh, Snap Hacks. Do you remember that pocket of time where it felt like all was right in the world and we had hope, we had actual hope that things were gonna turn for the better. And then I remember first hearing that uh, there was a good chance we'd be releasing more cards and I was like. No, that's, that's not the problem. That's not the problem. Don't do it. Like that's not the problem. And interestingly enough, like speaking with, uh, like I spoke with Dara a few weeks back and Dara said like, more cards is great, keep the meta fresher. And was all for it. And I was like, well what about the hamster wheel? What about this hamster wheel we're all on? We're like running on this hamster wheel and like the Snap packs aren't accommodating the amount of tokens we need for all the cards being released. And now there's the super premium season pass. And then like, there's all these things happening. Dexter. What are we supposed to do? Do we just keep having to spend money to advance our collections? Is that the solution? And right now it's a series four card dex. There's nothing that stops them from changing this to a series five and then further pushing free to play players down the line even for, that's what really scares me too. And people said Fantastic Car was gonna be mid two. Fantastic. Car was supposed to be mid or not even relevant to the end of the season. Three days in fantastic cars, Evo decks were like near top of the meta. So I'm a little scared.

Dekkster: 19:25

Yeah. I don't know. I think they just need to have more series drops. Like if they're gonna do this, they just need more series drops. I also wish this was like straight to packs as well. Yes, I think that'd be great if we could just open a series four pack and get it instead of buying the season pass, you know? That's kind of annoying because like, it's like the same as a Kid Omega situation to I think a lesser degree, but like Kid Omega, it's like people who spent a hundred bucks or whatever had access to'em for like a month before everyone else. Or was it even longer than that? Yeah. Like if this card does end up being good, people don't wanna spend an additional 10 bucks, just have to wait a month. And I think that's not cool.'cause then it, it is more, more pay to win. It's hard to escape the pay to win allegations. It, it definitely

Alex: 20:11

is. And um. I think that the, they're obviously trying to throw a lot of monetization strategies at the wall to see what sticks and what works and how much like will tolerate as, as a fan base. Right. Which is the unfortunate reality. Um, obviously their business, they have to make money and uh, card game has to sell cards in some way, but I feel like we're still not there as to like where the equilibrium is between being fair and being a little ridiculous sometimes. And I really hope to that we never see the omega red situation again. That was obviously egregious compared to what this is. I think that the super premium season pass is easier to digest than what happened with Omega red. My single Omega, omega red kid Omega you are? Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Old Omega red pissing everyone off. Yeah, but actually you might be playing C five for all I know with him. Uh, actually did he get buffed? I don't remember Omega red stat line right now. I think he's six. He's a four six. I tried him on C six I think. So they changed his ability to do additional power. That's what it was. Yeah. It's been a while since it's old Omega red. But anyways, let's actually talk about Silver Surfer First Steps. Dex, what do you think Star rating? Initial thoughts?

Dekkster: 21:15

My initial thoughts were, I think that she's gonna be pretty good in Surfer because you could play your, you could play her early on the lane. As long as you don't put another on reveal in her lane, like she's not gonna copy the text so then you can follow up much later with the Silver Surfer. And basically she's like absorbing man, but inverted and also costs less, uh, which is pretty nice. But it's, uh, I talked about this on my stream and uh, a lot of people who are like higher rank, like top 10, they were saying that uh, Surfer players don't try and win the Surfer lane and you have to be winning the location in order for this to go off. Generally they go tall in a couple lanes. You play Surfer in a lane, you're kind of throwing so you don't really want to try to win this. Or maybe Silver Surfer is not the actual target, not the non, for the old Silver Surfer is not the target for this. Maybe you're going for something else. I don't know. Maybe you just go for an extra gwenpool.

Alex: 22:14

Yeah, true. Uh, gwenpool will actually legit practice and uh, that could be potentially huge, especially in like the buffet iterations of Surfer we're seeing. And I actually agree you didn't give the star rating, but I was thinking in the three and a half, like three star range. Like I almost can see it hitting the four star range, but I have some like. I have some issues with it, and I do agree, absolutely, like yes, it's a pro on Silver Surfer. However, one of the things about Silver Surfer is it used to play like the Hope Summers into something like a s On turn seven, you do have seven, uh, turn six or you have seven Energy, which allows you to play the Absorb, man. The advantage to this, of course, is that it gets buffed'cause it's a 3D cost, uh, by the Silver Surfer itself. So yeah, it gets a little bit of extra power. I actually agree. I think Gwenpool is probably one of the best versions for it. However, something else I was thinking about is if you're going with like the Galactus first Step stuff, which again is like a mini sanctum Sanc toum, what if you were trying to buff that Galactus? What if you played this onto a location, right? This is your herald, which honestly could very well be the case. And then you follow it up with like a drax, which sounds crazy, but what if you're, if you're playing Galactus for steps, is there a chance. I know it's cope. I know you're laughing, I know it's cope, but is there a chance you're playing cards that want to take advantage of like where the Herald is anticipating opponent playing there and then all of a sudden you have a Silver Surfer first. Fantastic. Four first steps. Why can't, why is everything so hard to say? Why is it super premium season pass? Everything's fantastic. Four first steps. The names are too long. Dexter, they're too damn long. But you know what I'm saying, right? Like there's gonna be opportunities for this to double dip on some of these, on reveal effects, especially with the Galactus first steps.

Dekkster: 23:48

Yeah. I don't know if Drax is the way to go. I feel like you're committing too much just to buff your Galactus. I, I think a third job, it was just a

Alex: 23:55

natural transition, that's all.

Dekkster: 23:58

Yeah, I mean, he kinda wins his lane. He has a strong honor reveal, so I get that. But there's probably good stuff out there that I'm not thinking of. But yeah, Gwen Pool's kind of like top of mind and just showing this in a Surfer deck. But of course this could just be in any deck. It doesn't have to be a Surfer deck. Like the OG Surfer, it's still surfers, so it's a little confusing. But the OG Surfer decks might not need lady Surfer in them. Like maybe this just goes in something I'm not even thinking of, which is just like, like what? There was that like good cards deck that just ran a bunch of hand buff stuff and you ran gwenpool symbio spider, like that sort of thing. Maybe, maybe this is the way, I don't know. Yeah, it could be. I feel like this

Alex: 24:39

is,

Dekkster: 24:40

sorry, I, I was, I think this is actually like a four star and the more I think about it, the more good I think it is, which is bad. I think, I wish this was like the non-premium and Galactus was maybe the premium, I don't know. Maybe it ends up sucking, but

Alex: 24:54

I think Galactus is gonna be better than this. Really? I suspect so. Well, I, I liked, I like disagreeing. For what it's worth, I think that Galactus is likely gonna be a very steady power output. Like, I think that it's gonna be a massive drop on turn six very frequently. Like massive. And sometimes that's not the only way to win games of Marvel Snap, right? Like that's not the only way you win. Just big card. There's a reason why Blob doesn't see as much play as it used to, but I do think the Galactus for steps is probably gonna be bigger than maybe you're anticipating. Maybe. I hope so. I hope he is very girthy. Yeah, there's girth again. Now, one thing I was thinking about with uh, Silver Surfer and um, the first Steps version of Silver Surfer, of course, was the toxic versions of Silver Surfer that often ran like you have hazmat at three costs. Now, now I was thinking about how with the Senda turn effect, you're likely to be clearly winning this lane and maybe you can double pro the hazmat and then do something along the lines of like, you know, you have the classic Odin combos with those types of decks. That's somewhere I wanted to try to test it. I don't think it would work necessarily in like traditional toxic, because really you just want the negative one on the board and then like you allow your diamond back and other stuff to do the carrying alongside Ajax. But I do think that there's probably a toxic Surfer deck that'll go pretty hard here, double-dipping on that hazmat uh, hazmat based effect. So anyways, that's a little cope from me. Was there anything else you wanted to, uh, kind of end the conversation on? Uh, Silver Surfer? Fantastic. Four first steps.

Dekkster: 26:20

I just think it's gonna be better than Galactus and, uh, we'll have to see. I hope really. I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I hope Galactus is better, but yeah, like the more I think about this, um, I think it just goes in a nons Surfer deck. Galactus or the Surfer, uh, Surfer. Surfer doesn't go in the old Surfer deck, which God, this is so confusing.

Alex: 26:41

It's true. Like I can absolutely see that happening. It's affected, it's basically like an end of turn absorbing man, like you mentioned prior. And although we don't play lots of absorbing man right now, like we also, I don't feel like we're not cooking with absorbing man either. Like that was a card that was actually nerfed when we were doing all the brewed abs man type stuff all the time. The cards got brought down and then this feels like the end of turn variant of it. And we have a lot of support for end of turn in like Fantastic car. And obviously of course with the, uh, the Invisible woman, uh, first Steps as well. The only thing is though, is that once this copies the card text, it no longer is an end of turn card. Correct.

Dekkster: 27:19

Yeah, it's just gonna copy and turn into it just like a mystique does. Exactly. Or a Prodigy does. Yeah.

Alex: 27:25

Wow. So that is Silver Surfer. Fantastic. Four First Steps, my friend. We have a bunch of cards coming out in the Spotlight Cashes as well. We, the two cards we're just talking about, we're just paid cards. Spotlight Cash. That's right. Oh, I say Spotlight Cash and meant Snap packs. I'm confused. What can I say? We have Stardust coming out on August 5th. We have Frankie Ray Nova on August 12th. You have the fallen one on August 19th. And then finally you have the Cosmic Ghost Rider on August 26th. Those will be series five seasonal packs. We're gonna start our conversation here with Stardust. Stardust is a series five card with texts that reads ongoing cards. Can't be added to locations except by playing or moving them. This is a four seven, and I'm seeing lots of concern about this card. But before we get into Stardust. You are paying the kitten tax right now. You have to introduce us. Please introduce the people to your beautiful kitten.

Dekkster: 28:26

He's gonna run away right now. Oh my God. He is just stabbed me. Disaster. Uh, it's seven. He's a, he is a big boy. He is 17 pounds. But he was messing with my audio tough. I didn't want him to disconnect me in the middle of the pod recording. That would've been bad. That's okay.

Alex: 28:41

He could have, it's okay. We would've survived.

Dekkster: 28:44

There's another one down there. You can kind of see her. Oh yeah, you can see her face. See? Yeah, you can definitely see her. What's her name? That's Clover. She's uh, she's tiny. She's 13 pounds.

Alex: 28:54

Do you have any cats? Yeah, we had two one of them recently passed away, well very recently. It's been probably a year. Her name was Mittens. She was a pure Calico Persian. And we have another cat called Mitt, uh, snowball, who is a white Persian as well. And he sometimes comes around, but like, he doesn't usually jump up. He's very like, he'll just. Go and just fall asleep on the ground. Like, he's very, like, no one bother me. Like, he'll disappear if anybody, uh, hear if he hears a voice. That's not anyone from our family. He hides like he's very just like in the shadows sleeping. And then you're, you're just feeding his food to skunks now? Yeah, that's exactly what we took his food. We tried to catch a raccoon with it instead caught a skunk. And uh, I mean they say that cats have a very sensitive uh, ability to smell things. A sense of smell. So that's probably why he stays away from me now.'cause I probably still smell like the skunk. I actually did throw away those clothes, but, uh, my wife said I could not wash them anyways. Start us. I mess up the washing

Dekkster: 29:47

machine.

Alex: 29:47

I know. I don't know, man. She's like, nah, these are getting thrown out. Um, but also for the record, my wife loves throwing my clothes away. Like, I'm the kind of person, like literally I have clothes that I've worn since I was like in grade six. I have things that like I have had for so long, even if they fit me a little big when I was younger, I still wear them to this day. And I have like, I have clothes that. I was wearing when I visited my nieces, like when they were born in the hospital like 16 years ago. And I still have them. I wear them on stream all the time. It's a lot of Adidas stuff, but like, um, but yeah, I, I like, I don't buy clothes at all, at all. I wear stuff that I've had for years and years and years. You're a big guy.

Dekkster: 30:26

Like you're tall, not like, not wide. You're tall. Tall. I'll, a tall guy, little wider, too

Alex: 30:30

tall. A lot of people think, well, actually, it's funny you say that. A lot of people think I'm really small. Like it's something I've a

Dekkster: 30:35

lot of times until I met you. Yeah. I said, I, I said you gave, you give short, short king energy, but you're tall. I don't know what that means. You're a, you're tall, you're like, uh, you're almost as tall as like Ben Brode. You're like six four or something. I'm not six

Alex: 30:50

four. If I stand very, very, very straight. Maybe if you round up a bit, I'm six two

Dekkster: 30:55

maybe. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm surprised you're wearing the same clothes as when you were

Alex: 31:00

16. There's no way. Well, I was, I was a goalie, I was a soccer goalie and I was really tall, like by, by grade nine I was actually really tall and I kind of was like over six feet tall then. And I kind of carried my, my goal keeping career just'cause I was way taller than all the other kids. And I just kind of stopped growing. Now I just fill out wide, that's, that's my current trajectory is nice and wide. Just go to Costco. Why buy some clothes there? Dude, I, that's funny. Just go to Costco. Do you realize I'm not making this up? I go to Costco almost every day. I walk to one, it takes me a little bit of time, but I walk, that's like my walking exercise. I walk to Costco, I walk through the aisles. And then a lot of buddies who, like, they buy things like high profile items, like if they buy like a washer and dryer or a computer or whatever, they'll tell me because the moment it goes on sale, I text'em and go like, Hey, come back, get your money back. Because like they price protect. Right. And because I'm always there, or if something goes clearance priced, I'm on top of it.'cause I know I know all the pricing fluctuations because I'm there almost every single day. I should literally have a channel on YouTube about Costco and like, I know there's people that do Costco halls, but that they're, they're com they're fake news compared to what I'm capable of. Like I know the ins and outs of their inventory. I know their, their strategies. I know where they move products. I know when I know when they receive products. I know everything about the Costco. Like it's actually, it's insane. I shouldn't be even saying this. It's borderline embarrassing. Honestly.

Dekkster: 32:22

It is a little bit, but it's kind of cool at the same time. You know, like you should, uh, you should capitalize on that. I think you're gonna make them go bankrupt if you save everyone so much money. Yeah.

Alex: 32:32

Maybe that's the case. But, uh, we're we still have not really talked about Stardust. A lot of people are scared about this card. They're scared about Stardust. That's why I've been delaying the talk about stardust. He's terrified. Really? You're scared. I don't see it, man. I don't see, I don't see the reason why Tod be scared of this card. I see why like in the worst possible case of this card becomes extremely meta, then like it takes a massive dump on like a million cards, including one of my favorite and Marvel Snap right now, which is Fenris Wolf.'cause I play a ton of fenris in Surfer, like a lot of people are, Stardust prevents Fenris, like from bringing a card on the field to play, right? Like it's gonna do a lot. It hits way more cards than you think, but at the same time, yeah, it doesn't have any offensive capabilities outside of like what century, basically. Like there's very few offensive capabilities and you, I don't think you play a card like this just for its stats and for its defensive side. Like I don't think this actually makes 12 card decks despite the fact that the effect is scary. I'm going two stars. I'm going on the low end here. I don't think this is gonna be meta relevant and I, but I've been wrong from time to time.

Dekkster: 33:35

Ooh, stars is pretty low. I mean, everyone's terrified of this. He ruins Umba.

Alex: 33:42

Oh my God. Baku, you

Dekkster: 33:43

killed him. Baku kills Iba Baku counter, uh, blink uh, lock jaw stuff, hella stuff. Ris Wolf, all these extremely

Alex: 33:52

meta cards so far. Um,

Dekkster: 33:54

He does enable some things like Sentry and Gladiator. So thing, no, you wanna destroy things with Gladiator Gladiators affects generally a positive. Sometimes. I guess it depends on the situation, but then he is just a straight three eight with no, no downside. Gamers

Alex: 34:10

not playing Ris Wolf.

Dekkster: 34:12

Yeah. I guess if they're playing Ris Wolf, you don't even, you don't even care.

Alex: 34:16

Yeah. You pop it off that gladiator than bringing that thing

Dekkster: 34:18

back. Come

Alex: 34:19

on.

Dekkster: 34:20

Yeah. Well, I, I don't know. I think he's gonna be, he's also a three seven'cause he goes into Azabu deck. I think he's scaring, maybe he goes in some sort of ongoing deck. I don't know. Oh, I, I, I understand. Think the fact that he just shuts things down is just not. It's

Alex: 34:34

terrifying. So what you're saying is because this is a forecast card, text slop just got sloppier? Yeah, a little bit probably.

Dekkster: 34:43

I don't know, I don't know if it makes the cut over like a qi or an enchantress, you know? But I feel like it's just not a healthy card to be out there. It's like, see that it, it's like the hella counter. It's the hella counter I wish I had a year ago.

Alex: 34:59

Like, but hella, I mean, yeah, of course. Like, cosmos harder to hit and stuff like that. Obviously it's a huge counter that, but I feel like it's, it kind of solves a problem that we don't necessarily have. And it also, you know what though, at the same time, it is probably the reason why they felt so confident to buff something like doom 2099, going into the Invisible Women First Steps. Because when they did that, I'm like why would they Buff Doom 2099 going into Fantastic Four Invisible Women First Steps? I said that name all backwards, but whatever you got, you know what I mean? Probably'cause of Stardust because technically you have what turns off doom 2099, right. And Dr. Doom. Yeah.

Dekkster: 35:34

I think they should buff 2099 more then. Yeah, this shuts off. Doom shuts that shuts off. Scarlet spider brood, sinister Ultron. There's a lot of things that this just completely counters. And I think that's, yeah, just not healthy offensively. You could use

Alex: 35:50

Doc A with it. I guess that's a four eight With no downside then. Yeah, but I don't know if four eight's even worth it anymore. That's right. You got all these chunkies, all these chunky, four tens. Four eight's, nothing. Um hmm. Okay. Alright. I, I see the concern. So star rating, what are you gonna give it?

Dekkster: 36:08

I was, uh, can you give

Alex: 36:09

halves? I try to go fulls Cozy has always done halves. We frown upon it slightly. But you're allowed to. If it's frowned upon, I'll say, uh, no, I gave a half, I gave 3.5 to a card earlier today.

Dekkster: 36:26

I'll give it a three. So you think it's slightly better even though it's

Alex: 36:29

better.

Dekkster: 36:30

I would give it like a three and a half, maybe leaning on four. I think it's one of those cards that's like hard to tell.'cause if it becomes too good, people just stop playing those decks. Stop playing Marvel, Snap on car. Like

Alex: 36:41

this is too good.

Dekkster: 36:43

Yeah, people were saying, they're like, I'm quitting until Stardust is nerfed. They were saying that in my chat. I was like, grow up man. You're exaggerating a little bit. I was gonna say

Alex: 36:52

possibly

Dekkster: 36:53

an over exaggeration. Slightly, but yeah, I don't know. It's um, it's not one I'm excited to see at all and I think it's just gonna be a purely frustrating card.'cause I hate seeing cards that just don't allow me to do what my deck wants to do.

Alex: 37:09

And that's probably the major concern, right? We really don't want cards that don't allow you to play your deck. Right? Like, this literally shuts down like your actual deck for the most part. Right? And I think that like there's reasons why Marvel Snap tries to limit things that like discard from your, like discard from your opponent's hand and stuff like that.'cause it could be so frustrating to interact with. This year is extremely frustrating from a tech perspective. And they had to make it a four drop a, they couldn't make it a five, they couldn't make, had to be a four drop, had to go into the tech slot with Enchanters and Anders and everything like that. But you're okay. Here's the question for me, for you. From me, for you. Is this card better than Galactus for steps?

Dekkster: 37:47

I think so. Oh my what? Well, I give him a three. That's why I'd give this a three and a half, you know? And then I give a Silver Surfer a four. I feel like it's logical, but I think this is one of those cards where like, as it comes out, if you lose to this, you're like, that's busted, dude that's a S tier card. And I just got wrecked. But like it's Mobius, a five out of five card.

Alex: 38:08

No, but you can use Mobius offensively, right? Even though technically like Pixie is not great. Like there's opportunities to use Mobius in an offensive manner, right? Like even in a lot of the decks that run in Chanters, outside of like the Pure Tech swap stuff, you're often running in Chanters so you can like turn off the typhoid and stuff like that, right? Yeah. And that's even cope, that deck's not seeing much play now either. But um, now they think about it, people are just running in Chandra'cause of the, you know, every day if you wanna make a good deck, that's what you do. You put Zobo in it, you do enc, Chandra, hunchy, Galata, and Gwenpool, and then get a random other bunch of cards and just like, like just throw it in there. The deck is probably fine. Right? So now you're saying Stardust is the fifth card in the slot

Dekkster: 38:47

maybe. And then you also run sidewalk, so you make sure you get a four drop out on three. That's probably cope, but I, I don't know. I'm, I'm just concerned about the potential of this card. I think you have to really look at the meta. It could just really counter, it's a tech, it's a tech card, and if it counters what's popular out there, then sure. Does it counter my cerebral deck? No. So it'll be totally fine. C two, maybe this goes in a

Alex: 39:11

C seven, C two gets roughed up hard because C two gets hit, like brooded and sinister will not generate cards.

Dekkster: 39:20

Yeah.

Alex: 39:20

C3 loses macari. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But, uh, the other than that, like, yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough. I don't think this card needs to exist. I think that's kind of like what people are kind of starting to feel like this card is answering to a problem we don't really have. Like, do we need to, is this a tech piece that we even needed in Marvel Snap? Like, do you know what I mean? Just get rid of this. Like, we don't even want it.

Dekkster: 39:44

Maybe this is to stop, uh, people from pulling out Galactus for steps earlier or something. Like just cheesing it out with a lockjaw or blink or something. This is why it's here. But who the hell's playing lockjaw or Blink right now? I'm playing Blink. You don't play Blink electro ramp stuff? No. You don't play no turn And you don't play any cards anymore? I don't

Alex: 40:07

play any cards at all. I just, I just, I try to load with like an empty deck and he just tells me I can't do it. Then I uninstall the game. Alright. That's probably enough of a conversation about Stardust. Dexter is scared. Alex is skeptical. And then we got Frankie Ray Nova. I'm actually super excited about this card and um, Frankie Renova is a series five card as all these are. It's a two three and the text reads after the next time you play a six cost card, double this card's power dude. You just play one six cost. And this is a two six lizard and shambles. What are your thoughts on Frankie Renova?

Dekkster: 40:48

I'm excited about this. Maybe Frankie Ray, Nova and Galactus First Steps have some sort of synergy where you just keep stacking that lane and then you just slam Galactus first steps on one lane and then she doubles. I've been messing around with merge hand buff stuff for a while and I really enjoy that archetype and it's kind of just fallen by the wayside. It's just not good enough. Uh, they recently buffed agony. So like agony into Frankie Ray, into like a Hulk buster. You could do a gwenpool with the new Silver Surfer, maybe buff that up, you know, and then just go tall and two lanes and then this doubles. Or you could bait your opponent, not even play the sixth drop. They think this was gonna double and then they don't play there. And then they get wrecked. That's another possibility. But I think there's gonna be a good card. But the thing is there's so many good freaking two drops out there right now. Like do you wanna, you have to really structure your deck around this card and instead you're not playing Mr. Fantastic First Steps, you're not playing surge. And you know, all those other good two drops. So it's kind of getting saturated over there. It's got a lot of competition, but I do wanna mess around with it in some sort of hand buff deck. And that is

Alex: 41:55

exactly why I think that they can coexist.'cause I think you need to get this down by turn five, not necessarily on turn two, Mr. Fantastic. And Surge. They want to be out on turn two. Obviously this card can very easily go down, turn five, allow it to get hit by Galata, allow it to get pumped by Gwenpool, allow it to get drawn in through FAOs, allow it to do all the, the fancy pants stuff that we're doing with, with hand buff style decks. Right. And I think that Frankie Ray has a couple of different approaches. You can get her onto the field of play, try to buffer, you can do some like fancy stuff. Like here's a great idea I had. Right. Okay. Turn two Frankie Ray, turn three Cosmo, and then you do like the Nomura package. It just goes hard, it goes massive, right? You follow up with the Odin on Nomura because the Odin pros, the Nomura effect first it'll get the double after the Nomura power is applied so we can get into like the thirties or something insane. You can also do the same with Symbio Spider-Man. You can merge Symbio Spider-Man in into Frankie Ray, play a six drop and get the juice. Conversely, you can also use uh, Symbio Spider-Man to Double P Pro on the Nomura with the Odin if you have that combo too. Like there's a lot of different ways you can approach it. However, I think that you hit on what was awesome. I think that like agony is great on curve, right? Even some of these buff decks, they're playing Chavez, but I really don't think Frankie Ray needs to be out on turn two. I think that this is the kind of card if you have Gwenpool and you have Galata, you can play this on turn five alongside a three cost and set up a turn six play. That makes sense. It might even just be Galata first steps, honestly.

Dekkster: 43:25

Yeah, you're getting me even more excited about this card. Like, uh, the naura astral projection sort of stuff. I've been seeing a lot of that with like Odin. And you have Lash in Elaine, you have this in Elaine. Oh yeah.

Alex: 43:38

Lasher's amazing in those decks. Yeah.

Dekkster: 43:41

You almost just win the game. If you get this in a lane. Lasher in lane, you do Nomura and then you Odin. Yeah, dude, it's crazy. That's, that's'cause Lasher goes crazy. He goes, uh, he's 12. He is essentially 24 power in his lane. Uh, Frankie Ray, similar, what should be 26? That's great. And then you hit a Astro projection, Ironheart becomes better with this.

Alex: 44:05

Yeah. Iron Heart on curve as well. And the thing I like about that deck with Nomura, now obviously there's a lot of players. You might not have Nomura'cause it's not been something that's been like demanding attention. But there's a lot of ways that you can, like on a budget, actually subcards out and still make that deck work. Like if you don't have Lasher for instance, and you draw Frankie Ray, you could literally, this is absolute Coke, but it's a good example. You could literally use Colossus. You could throw Colossus into a location. It can't be stronger. It can't be Shadow King. It just sits there and just absorbs the power from the Mora. Cosmo does the same thing. It's impossible to interact with borderline. So like there are so many ways to make that deck work, even if you don't have all the fancy pants cards, which I really do like about it. But dude, I think Frank, you Ra is gonna be my top of the season. I'm not willing to go five star. Oh man, I almost wanna go five stars on Frankie. I'm gonna go 4.5, which is basically my way of saying this card is a banger. But I don't think it is gonna be like a disruptive force in Snap. Like I don't think this is gonna be like the card that everyone's like, why did they add this shit to the game? That's, you know what I mean? I don't think that's gonna be that. It's not gonna be like OG Loki. It's not gonna be I don't even think it's gonna be as prevalent as Mr. Fantastic. First Steps maybe. No. Maybe. I don't know. Nothing t nothing's as prevalent as that. I know, but I think this is an amazing

Dekkster: 45:22

card. What do you thinking star rating? I would say like a four. It does have a lot of weaknesses. Um, q

Alex: 45:30

Yeah.

Dekkster: 45:31

And Shadow King are very popular in the meta, especially Shadow King right now. People, a lot of people doing invisible women, shadow King to just counter the, um, the end of turn meta that's happening right now. So if you play Frankie Ray, someone just goes invisible and in Shadow King they win your lane. Yeah. And they ruin your game plan. So just because Shadow King is so popular, I think he's going to absolutely just crush Frankie. But if your opponent doesn't know Shadow King, you just win. Maybe I

Alex: 46:03

will tell you, and this is so I, I lurk in your stream a lot. I actually really enjoy it. Mostly for all the swearing, but like what I really enjoy about it, I'll tell you, is there is a significant difference in MMR brackets, right? No, I'm like. Mid range. Ah, mid mids a good name for it. And then we have you often you're the top echelon. You and Dara, you guys are absolute Chads up there. And I will tell you when I'm watching your stream, I notice a lot more shadow King. I'm telling you. And I bet you a lot of people agree with me. Shadow King is not nearly as often played as you dip into more mid ranks. Uh, like some of us like to kind of, uh, just, uh, tread water. Um, so that might be a high MR problem up there.

Dekkster: 46:44

It might be. It's very different up in the higher ranks. And, uh, yeah, you're probably right. It's a very different meta. I kinda wanna pull up the numbers real quick of how popular he is. Are you, would you be comfortable, uh,

Alex: 46:56

saying your rank? My rank, I don't even know what it is. Usually I'm hovering between like six and 10 K, 6,000, 10,000. Okay. In that range. Um, if there's twitch drops, I get much higher. I get into like the. Two thousands range because I actually play the game more. Very grinding. Yeah. Um, I'm latest, yeah, I am grinding'cause I'm just online. Yeah. During twist drops I'm often hovering in the top a thousand. The highest rank I've ever been. And I even got like a, I think they sent us an email at some point, but like, highest rank You were last year in Marvel. Snap. Highest I was, was 51.

Dekkster: 47:31

Really?

Alex: 47:32

Yeah. But I think that was on a Twitch drop day and I was like grinding hard. So I don't know. That's really, but I don't often get, I don't often get that high. If I'm playing consistently, I'll be in the top a thousand. I,

Dekkster: 47:43

so right now in the top 50%, which is 25,000 in higher rank. Yep. If 53% of players are playing Mr. Fantastic First steps in their deck, the second most played card becomes invisible women first steps at 30%. Shadow King is at 19.6. If you do top 10% shadow King's in 27.5. So almost that's a huge differe. 8% jump in play rates. Yeah. So that's kind of crazy. And then if we do all ranks, like if you're just infinite but not top 50%, shadow king becomes 17. So he is less popular. The lower rank you get for sure. So maybe Frankie will be unchecked for a lot of players. Are your cat kissing and then she'll be fine? Uh, he's probably cleaning her. Oh, that's the wrong end.

Alex: 48:38

Oh no. Avert your eyes.

Dekkster: 48:40

No, that's a virtue. No, that's normal. That's normal for cats. I reckon

Alex: 48:45

that's okay now. Okay, now they're kissing i, I, you know what? This is inappropriate. Oh, Dexter lit. You can't allow this to happen. I'm gonna get the monetized. He's weird.

Dekkster: 48:54

He's just licking her ear. It's actually really important. She's so bad at cleaning herself, and he's really good at, at grooming. Do you know what's funny? The

Alex: 49:03

framing on like, my discord call is slightly wider than what the audience sees. So I'm seeing, I think I see just enough that it's like borderline offensive that they just see the top half.

Dekkster: 49:15

Yeah, they just see from a, they do see a diff I'm looking at what they see and what, what's actually happening. It's,

Alex: 49:22

well, we'll let you guys, uh, be creative with your thoughts. But anyways, that's Frankie Ray Dexter and I both loving Frankie Ray. This is gonna be a card that I'm extremely excited for. This is my, I would say this is my card of the month. There's one other, ironically, a series four card that I think's gonna be insane, but Frankie Ray is definitely up there. Um, now we have the fallen one. The fallen one here, a series five card that reads as a five five on reveal. Set your max energy equal to this card's power. Would you like to comment on it? Lemme go back up to

Dekkster: 49:50

Frankie Ra for one second. One sec. Lemme look at Frankie again. You wanna look at Frankie again? Okay, I'm done looking at Frankie. Let's go back. Okay. This is, that's quality content there? No, I read the text again. I, these, I think these might go on the same deck. Yeah. You think so? Like the handbook

Alex: 50:07

sort of thing?

Dekkster: 50:08

Yeah, dude. With like Galata, what if you did Silver Surfer? The new Silver Surfer into, uh, into Gwen Pool and then it buffs like your fallen one and your Frankie Ray and then you slam, fallen one on five. And then the next turn is you have nine energy, whatever you could play Frankie Ray and your, uh, whatever your freaking, your Odin or whatever you wanna play in the same turn, you could play Gala. First Step. It's a. Galax is First Steps and Frankie re the same turn, then you're not even chewable. Maybe you've thrown priority, you've only won one lane, uh, with your Herald. Could be good. So what star rating are you thinking about for fall one? I guess, uh, I, I have to give a little bit more thought, but I, I think he seems a bit cracked in this sort of hand buff stuff. And because I'm so excited for a hand buff shell like I've just, I'm, I'm desperate at this point. Like, I don't even care, um, about like how good a card is sometimes. Like I just want to have fun. I want it to like enable some, like a different shell of cards that has just not been prominent for a while. And for me, like that's, that's what I want. So like, fall in one, I might give a four as well. Maybe I'm super overhyping this, I'm with you, man. I have four written down. I'm with you. Yeah. At the moment, people can't really cap your max energy, right? They have, there's like Mobius and stuff. So being able to hit this with a Gwen, um, maybe even like run a KO and stuff like that. He can get pretty big. Even if you're getting a five eight, then he has a bigger body. He's a five eight. He is been juiced up, but your next turn, I guess you got eight energy, an additional two. I feel like he has to be larger than that. You get him out early, that's the problem. Hit him with the astro projection or maybe a magic you, magic you, uh, have an extra turn to juice'em up, or you also have an additional turn with additional energy.

Alex: 51:59

I don't know. The only problem is, is once you say astral projection, you're already kind of like drifting into copling a little bit, right? And then so I had you were, I was with you until then. I was with you until, so I do think fall in one is gonna be good from like a combo perspective. Why are you giving me that look? I feel

Dekkster: 52:15

like

Alex: 52:16

Astro

Dekkster: 52:17

projection kind of goes in the decks with, uh, Frankie. Yeah. Maybe you don't think so? Yeah, like Nomura, Frankie sort of stuff. Okay. Maybe I'm coping, but he also looks very astral. Maybe when they made astral projection, they were thinking, are you talking about his pecs? His pectorals look astral. Sure. They do. They do look astral. I've never referred to someone's pectorals. Oh, avert your eyes. So it's the fallen one. He doesn't against him monetized. He doesn't leave much to the imagination. Yeah, okay. Maybe ask for projections. Cope. Okay. Maybe it is cope. You know what,

Alex: 52:50

this reminds me of the fallen one. I know this is really random, but this reminds me of the scene in the Lion King. When, when Simba's talking to his dad in the stars, doesn't he look like, doesn't he look like a lion? Doesn't he look like Mufasa in the stars? A little bit. Yeah. I can see it. You see it? I could. I could see it. You're not crazy. Okay, now that we've said all that about the fallen one and nothing actually of substance, I will say that like buff decks are going really hard right now. You got like, obviously surge, Mr. Fantastic First Steps, Gwen Po. Galata. They're all fantastic. The only concern I have is like, if this guy's not buffed up, you're basically punting. Turn five. This is a five five. At best, let's see, he gets hit by one Gwenpool, he's a five seven. Yeah, you're going into uh, turn six with extra energy, but also you played a five, seven, you know what I mean? Like, it needs to be more than that. Like you need to have a much higher threshold as to like what's acceptable. And that's where I get a little nervous. I think that this might be one of those classic situations where I'm almost really excited about the cart's potential, but I think the floor is really wi like really low. I think this has the widest delta of the month between the, the ceiling and the floor. You know what I mean?

Dekkster: 53:56

I think there's gonna be some cheesy line that we're not really thinking of, like an agony buffet up with ironheart. You got the lasher or Frankie in another lane and then on five you slam this on agony and all of a sudden he's 12 power.'Cause you hit him with Ironheart and you have the agony down or whatever. Or maybe you do have an additional turn because of magic and you hit him with the. I don't know. With something, with the galacto and the gwenpool, um, or Symbio Spidey into this could be kind of crazy. Mm-hmm. Especially if you, you can agony and then symbio and then do this, but then it's like, maybe you should have just played a Nimrod. Uh, it's kind of, it's, he's almost like Sarah adjacent, but not, uh, he is not mobious of all. I like the Symbio Spider-Man

Alex: 54:42

idea because getting that second on reveal is huge. Right? Like, that's really gonna dip into that extra energy. And then the question is though, like, your hand and your deck has to be designed to like, oh, I got 12 energy. Okay. Like, what do I do now? Oh, I'm still just playing what I was gonna play on turn six anyways. You know what I mean? It's like, I think it, it has to be like, I don't know the deck building considerations here. I'm not there yet. I'm not at the deck building side for this particular card yet. But I do see the potential and I, I feel like it's probably gonna be good. Like, someone's gonna cook something with it. Like, do you kind of agree like someone's gonna do something cool with it and it's just a matter of getting there and figuring out if it's worth it.

Dekkster: 55:16

Yeah, I think it's got a lot of potential. This one

Alex: 55:20

you wanna talk about Cosmic Ghost Rider. Before we get into our seasonal series four cards, which by the way, one of my favorite cards of the month is in the series four we have Cosmic Ghost Rider Dexter. Cosmic Ghost Rider is a Series five card, which I'm trying to frame appropriately in the screen here. And the cosmic ghost writer reads as a five seven on Reveal. Remove the text from front row enemy cards here. What are your general thoughts on cosmic ghost writer? He's gonna be cracked.

Dekkster: 55:50

He just ruins people's lives. He is unhealthy for the game. Another card that I'm just scared of that is gonna be really not fun to see.

Alex: 55:58

Yeah.

Dekkster: 55:59

Uh, I guess like Cosmo to stop him or whatever, but he's kinda like Red Guardian, your front lane. He does cost five, which is quite a premium. Like your card has to be really good to be a five cost and, uh, this does that. He's really solid. Imagine just destroying a, a Captain Carter Lane or something like that. It's bad.

Alex: 56:18

This is my second 4.5 of the month, but for different reasons, like this is definitely a four star card and I can see it kind of going high. I can see it having one of the highest meta shares of the month and it's not, thank God it's not a forecast first of all.'cause by golly, what a disaster that would've been. It is a five cost. I think part of the issue was that Glenn and the design team, they sat down, they said, well, we need to make five costs better. We take a power off Za. We take a power off Coin pool, we take a power off Galata. But you know what? It's the five drops that feel weak. Well, you release the thing First Steps, which ultimately was a pretty solid five drop. I think most people can agree. And now you have the Cosmo Ghost Rider. Now here's the fun thing. Hey guys, thanks for buying the Agent Carter. Season pass. Get wrecked. Agent Carter, right? Like it's like I think that this is so hard. I'm more, I'm way more scared of this than Stardust or whatever the hell his name is. This card scares me more because I think that this can naturally be put into your deck with almost no consideration. This doesn't need to be offensive. It doesn't, sorry, it doesn't need to be defense. It's always just a good play. There's always gonna be something to hit and you play your opponent plays cards.'cause those cards do stuff. Disabling them all two of them is absolutely wild. If you thought Red Guardian was bad, this guy's worse.

Dekkster: 57:34

Yeah. Yeah. This is gonna be I think, really frustrating to see and I think he's gonna steal a lot of cubes'cause you could just also play him on the last turn and kind of just shred your opponent's front line. And he might just solo carry a lane. It's kinda like juggernaut sometimes, you know, he just steals eight cubes. Yeah.'cause you're like, I win, my opponent doesn't expect juggernaut. I auto win this lane. Like this is gonna be similar to that. He does cause five. But if you play him in a deck that has like a good one drop, imagine just slamming this down and playing a demon like you win. So, yeah, it's true.

Alex: 58:05

And uh, it does pump surge. It pumps Mr. Fantastic First Steps, captain Carter. A lot of stuff that'll be sitting in the front line there. The only thing and thing is, I guess like Fanta would've like by that time done its damage for the most part. Like you're basically just alleviating one additional proc for Mr. Fantastic. But like, yeah, this goes hard. Now I have a question. Is this a Patriot buff?

Dekkster: 58:26

Is that cope? The Silver lining? The Silver lining. It's a bit cope.'cause your Patriot's probably in the front line. He's gonna get kicked. No, he's

Alex: 58:33

in the front line. Patriot's in the front line. Well, at least

Dekkster: 58:37

prodigy's

Alex: 58:37

not,

Dekkster: 58:39

yeah. Prodigy will be in the back. Just cope even harder. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know man. This is a scary one. I think he's gonna be really frustrating. I, I'd almost give him a five, but I'm hesitant to Ooh. But I feel like these numbers are so silly, man. Like you don't actually know how good a card is until you actually mess around with it. But that's, maybe I'll be a coward like you and I'll say four and a half

Alex: 59:02

there. That's the spirit. I, okay. First of all, I want you to know that like the only people that take the star rating seriously. Is everyone watching and listening because they hold us severely accountable to them. So just know that I have still not let down, like if, if I, I've gone loan a couple cards and literally people have not let it go for like three years. So just rest easy, sir. Yeah,

Dekkster: 59:24

I, I'm, I'm not a financial advisor. I, I think this is like a four, but, all right.

Alex: 59:29

You're dropping down a four.

Dekkster: 59:30

It might be a five. I don't know. It's a four and a half, but like, maybe it sucks.

Alex: 59:37

I will say that this card art is both ridiculously stupid and awesome at the same time, and I'm not sure which side it really is.

Dekkster: 59:45

It's omnibus. Have you seen my omnibus sy?

Alex: 59:47

What? I don't even know what word you're saying.

Dekkster: 59:50

Hold on. Let me see if I can find it.

Alex: 59:53

Uh, Dexter's Gun for the audio listeners, Dexter is now getting back in his chair. He's now back in focus. Oh my gosh. What

Dekkster: 1:00:02

is that? It's, my camera's flipped, but it says, uh. Cosmic ghost writer. Wow, that's actually pretty cool. It's a thick omnibus. You don't have one. Are you saying an anthology? Omni Omnibus.

Alex: 1:00:20

Omnibus. I have never heard that word before. Is it just'cause I don't read lots?

Dekkster: 1:00:26

An omnibus is like a collection of comics. Right. So it'll have like, it's a comic book. It's like all the, so

Alex: 1:00:33

is it any different than an anthology? Is an anthology just like the written word, not a comic book?

Dekkster: 1:00:38

I have no clue. I, I've just always heard omnibus. It's called an omnibus.

Alex: 1:00:42

I suspect that chat and the comment section will let us know. What is that? That is, I, do you know what that thing on the right, I wish I never saw. That's offensive on, on my right. Your left if you're watching. I'm excited. I'll have to check that out, man. Maybe I'll have to buy one. I gotta like investigate them.'cause I've been wanting to read more comics. The only comics I ever read are the same ones. I just like reading the same ones. Do you like reading comics? Can I make a suggestion to you? Sure. Kang only myself left to conquer. It's my favorite comic. It's my favorite. Really? Yeah. My absolute. If you've not read it yet, no. If you get the opportunity, I promise you Kang only myself left to conquer is God tier. Absolutely God tier. And that is gonna take us transitioning into the seasonal series of four cards. We have a couple cards here to talk about, including a high voltage card and air walker. Two of the cards will be released on day one alongside the season. Pass in right shift and TerraX. The tamer fire Lord comes out August 12th for some reason. And then we have the air walker as well. Dexter, we're gonna get started with Redshift, and this is the card that I have been most excited for in the series four here, Redshift, I almost want to give five stars, but I'm only gonna give four and a half. I, you know what? These four and a half this week are not good. I've never done this before. I've never given so many half stars in my entire career as a Marvel Snap caster. This is bizarre. Yeah, but I'm gonna do it again.

Dekkster: 1:02:08

I missed the last five minutes of what you were saying. I was looking at King to conquer only myself left to conquer$16 on Amazon. Only seven left in stock.

Alex: 1:02:17

No, it's okay. You don't have to listen to me. Sometimes I, I tune out of Cozy too and then he asked me a question. I'm like,

Dekkster: 1:02:24

yes. Okay. Redshift, what do I think about Redshift? Redshift? Uh, I think it's gonna be really good, especially in Agatha.

Alex: 1:02:31

Hell yes. Agatha's back baby. That's like the only note I have. Black Knight slash Ghost Rider slash Agatha is back. Let's go. That's my note. Yeah,

Dekkster: 1:02:41

I think, um. It's gonna be nasty in that It's so good. And then it gives you a random six, right?

Alex: 1:02:48

Yeah. We haven't even read the card. Do you wanna read this one out for the people? Give like, give them like a really nice like OnlyFans voice. Come on,

Dekkster: 1:02:56

Redshift on Reveal. Discard the leftmost card in your hand to add a random card with the same cost to your hand. Is that good? Yeah. You didn't say the power. It's a two three. He's a two three. I don't the words. The voice. Two. Three. Two energy. Three power series. Four card, Redshift. Okay. Now describe him. Very muscular. Little left to the imagination. Two swords. Kind of ugly, but that's all right.

Alex: 1:03:24

Yeah. Okay. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I like how he's like, I'll put the helmet on, but not the shirt.

Dekkster: 1:03:30

Yeah. He said, I gotta show off this fantastic body. I've sculpted. I'm just gonna wear a helmet and pants. Maybe he skipped leg day or something. Why is he wearing pants at this point?

Alex: 1:03:39

It's true. It's true. Just so you're suggesting he takes the pants off as well. That's, that's the Dexter variant. Just no pants actually. Well, he's

Dekkster: 1:03:45

got, he's got something to hide. I think he should have put on more mask. Well, that's, yeah, of course you have something

Alex: 1:03:50

to

Dekkster: 1:03:50

hide. That's why you wear pants. He's, wait, what do you mean? Oh, I, I I was implying like legs not like a phallic uh, object.

Alex: 1:04:00

Well, this, now we're really demonetized, so I mean, I don't wanna like build it up too much. But is this just the Naga, the card? Because usually discard goes to the right, right? Like swarms and apoch and stuff. This guy's attacking the left side. So is it just purely Agatha? What do you think?

Dekkster: 1:04:17

No, I think he's good in all discard. Maybe I'm missing something. I feel like he's still gonna go in, in other stuff. Sometimes you draw cards and there're on the left sometimes. I mean, you, the cards you draw are on the right, but your opening hand, you know, maybe the card you want to discard is on the left, is what I mean. It's true. And you wanna get rid of it. It's

Alex: 1:04:34

true. So you Redshift, so like, let's say you Redshift on Reveal, your apocalypse is on the left. You Redshift, he jumps to the right where you bleed him on the same turn. On turn three. So turn three is Redshift bleed. Boom, boom.

Dekkster: 1:04:46

Perfect. I'm, I'm gonna call it C3. Discard Swarm Gambit, Redshift, uh, uh, Cerebro. That's it. That's it. Mystique. Mystique. Maybe Cage. I don't know. You play Luke Cage? Yeah, but he doesn't have three. I mean, it was kind of a joke, but the thing with C3 discard, which I've tried a lot, which is maybe not normal, that's a sentence no one has ever said. Uh, it's like you need blade to hit your swarm and sometimes he just doesn't. So I'm most excited for a C3 discard to mess around with this. I don't think it's gonna be a great deck, but I think it'll be a fun deck. I think this guy is going to be best in Agatha. Is he gonna be in some sort of like consu deck Maybe. I mean, discarding a, a consu and getting an extra six costs is, is kind of cool. Maybe some sort of big six. Maybe even put Eson in there at that point. Because, yeah, because it'll pull that

Alex: 1:05:41

card. Right. I wanna mention something'cause I know that Agatha obviously does not see much play at all, and there's a lot of people that are watching that or listening have not really played Agatha. It's important to note that one of the key strengths of Agatha is not just the power, but the fact that she's an additional card in your hand. She's like the only Chavez effect, original Chavez effect we have left. Like she's the true deck thinner of Marvel Snap, or she starts in your hand, she's an extra card in your hand. And so Redshift discarding that it technically thins your deck outward. Right? So that's one thing about Agha that kind of gives her a little bit of an appeal.

Dekkster: 1:06:13

Yeah. It's uh, it's effectively like an 11 card deck. Yeah. And that increases the odds that you will find Redshift. So if you are doing Black Night Redshift, you're almost guaranteed like a massive blade.

Alex: 1:06:26

Yeah, that's absolutely true. And that's gonna take us to the next card in series four, which is Ax the Tamer. A three three that says On reveal for each location, shuffle a rock into the losing players deck. I actually think this is pretty cool. I'm going three stars here. Like, I'm not like crazy excited about it, but I don't think it's a bad card. I think it's like a mid to decent card and I think it's gonna go well with the fantastic four first step. Dex, you gimme that look like Alex's crack. That's okay. Let, let me finish'cause I'm already gonna top of, uh, the Galactus first steps, which I know you hate already. TerraX the Tamer, I suspect Michael Good's initiative granting decks Dex that wanna be very aggressive, that wanna win locations for the Galactus first steps.'cause if you're playing aggressive, if you're playing squirrel girls and doing all this stuff for that Herold Tarax, the tamer might just pump three cards into your opponent's deck.

Dekkster: 1:07:15

Do you remember, um,

Alex: 1:07:17

rock slide? I do remember Rock slide or like

Dekkster: 1:07:20

corg. Yeah, those cogs exist. Yeah. I feel like they're both better than this, even in their current state. I think this sucks man. I think this car's like really bad. I wish it was a three four. I was, I like dark hawk. I I miss the dark Hawk man. Like he's not there anymore. And uh, it's'cause they destroyed rock slide. And this is like, we got rock slide at home. He used to be So you're saying this is pre rock slide? Well he used to be a was he a three 5:00 AM I co Was he a three five or a three? Four That put two rocks in? I don't remember. I think he was a three

Alex: 1:07:54

five.'cause he was a four. He was a four five first. Right. Rock slide was a forecast. Got dropped down to three and then got neutered

Dekkster: 1:08:03

a bunch of times He started three. Three, I don't even know. But this, uh, most time best case scenario, obviously you're putting three rocks, but I think the usual scenario is gonna be like you give them one rock, maybe two rocks and you pump two into your own deck. And you're also shuffling your own deck. Maybe there's some sort of a synergy with WA or not wa to with, uh, with Howard where you could see your top card and you don't like it. So then you play TerraX and you shuffle it. That's the only thing I, that might be some of the most

Alex: 1:08:29

insane cop I've ever heard in my entire life.

Dekkster: 1:08:31

I think this card sucks. I think it's really, really, I'll give it two you.

Alex: 1:08:37

Okay. I have one line that I thought about. It's a bit of cope. Listen for what it's worth. Three's. Three's probably maybe too high. Okay. Dark Hawk turned five. Turn six. Mystique TerraX. Yeah.

Dekkster: 1:08:51

I'd rather have rocks. Slide down you dark Hawk on five and then you do mystique grand. I just don don't think, why not do that too? Because that's too much energy. I mean, you can run Grand Rocks, you could run it all. Maybe it does go in a dark hawk deck. You're just adding even more rocks.

Alex: 1:09:06

Yeah, maybe.

Dekkster: 1:09:06

I guess Corg TerraX rocks. I'm gonna have to try it with a grand Master.

Alex: 1:09:12

Ugh. Rocks lot. Yeah. Yeah. I just,

Dekkster: 1:09:15

I just wish, uh, he had a, like a, another stat three three with shuffling a rock is just not good in this meta. Especially when he is trying to win a location too. Right. You have to be winning the location. Yeah. Like what if he won his location also shuffled in a rock. I think that'd be a little bit different.

Alex: 1:09:34

Turn three Silver Surfer first steps. Turn four TerraX, the tamer boom and you played squirrel Girl turn one and some other bullshit turn two. And so basically you have all initiative and you just like, double pump six rocks another deck.

Dekkster: 1:09:47

The more you talk about this card, the more I want to give it a one instead of a two. I feel like it's so bad, dude. I don't know. Okay.

Alex: 1:09:55

Who's better? TerraX, Tarax or uh, Baron Zebo.

Dekkster: 1:09:59

BII think Baron Mordo is even better. But I would also say I totally meant Mordo. I totally

Alex: 1:10:04

said the wrong Baron. Yeah, I think Mordo might be better than this. Wow. Okay. Uh, TerraX the Tamer or Galacto for steps. Galacto is better. Boom. There's a win for G-Man. There's a win for G-Man. This is the worst card we've seen today. That's a good, no, I think, I think Fire Lord's worse than ax. You think fire Lord's better?

Dekkster: 1:10:25

Okay. Fire Lord. A four six on reveal. Revive one of your discarded or destroyed three cost cards here. No, I think he's better. He's also series four. Um, I'm Wait, is he or was it card above him? Tamer. I know what series four. These

Alex: 1:10:37

are all series four. We're on the series four side now they're all series

Dekkster: 1:10:39

four. Okay. Okay. Uh, yeah, I think, uh, I think he's actually good. What? With who? With the other card, we're gonna see Air Walker, the Walker story, the forecast card from the deck. Yeah. You wanna talk about these two together? Yeah, I think they kind of work together.

Alex: 1:10:56

Okay. So Air Walker is a three three that reads when this is destroyed, replace it with a four cost card from your hand or your deck. And fire Lord for a reminder is a four six. So the curve works that says on Reveal Revive one of your discarded or destroyed three cost cards here. So in theory you could like kid Omega, air Walker, fire Lord, and get it all into some giant like Infinity Loop.

Dekkster: 1:11:22

I think these are somehow going to work in a Phoenix Force deck and actually be good.

Alex: 1:11:29

So you're saying use the fire, so you're using Air Walker as a tutor to pull the Phoenix force out or to pull Mr. Ne, like you want Air Walker to, to sneak a card out like that forecast. You need the Phoenix Force. You need the, um, again, the, the, uh, the MR Negative or whatever, like you think it's an additional line as a tutor, essentially.

Dekkster: 1:11:50

Yeah,

Alex: 1:11:50

to play a four on

Dekkster: 1:11:51

three, but also he is good. Maybe like Dormammu. Okay, that's fair. Dorm's probably good with him as well. Uh, and then there's, there's a pretty good four seven that was printed this season as well.

Alex: 1:12:04

Screw that card.

Dekkster: 1:12:06

So I feel like maybe that could be good. Maybe I'm coping, but yeah, I feel like Phoenix force is always very close to doing some cheeky stuff. Maybe fire Lord like isn't necessarily great with it. Like reviving one of your discard or destroyed cards. Does he really? Earnest spot and destroy. I gave voles cards two.

Alex: 1:12:30

I'm skeptical of cards. So you gave TerraX to three I think teac. Oh man. This is where like, I know, see this is where Alex can, can go off the rails a bit. I think Tarax might see more play than Fire Lord and Air Walker. Really? There's a chance. Not a big chance. Maybe it's because I'm just really hoping to play Dark Hawk again. I really wanna play Dark Hawk again. I really want to, and maybe it's a little bit of cope here, like doing wrong. All these cards in the grand scheme of things suck sch nuts compared to some of the other ones we've talked about today. Like these are dog water compared to some of the cars we've talked about today. But like some of them, but like, I don't know man, I think two stars is probably fair for fire, Lord, and uh, air Walker. What do you think?

Dekkster: 1:13:12

Oh, I can't help but feel like this is gonna be cracked somehow. Revive, if someones gonna figure out the

Alex: 1:13:17

secret cheat code.

Dekkster: 1:13:19

Yeah. Like this could pull back a discard three Co. You can target your discard and then pull this back. Is that, I feel like that's gotta have some sort of cheeky interaction that I just haven't thought of yet. So maybe that's the problem. So like, so you're

Alex: 1:13:31

saying it's like the Redshift into discarded something, three costs that brings, comes back with fire, Lord.

Dekkster: 1:13:38

Yeah. Yeah, like a card you want to, uh, discard or eat and then you just bring it back. Like that's good. But I also, I guess I thought Elixir would also be kind of cracked and he, no one really plays him that much. Wait, hold on. You

Alex: 1:13:51

thought Elixir was gonna be good? Yeah. With, uh, with Kid Omega. And you've been making fun of me this whole time about your like, my valuations of cards. And you went high on Elixir.

Dekkster: 1:14:01

Yeah, rightfully so. I think, the making fun of you part, I think, uh, Elixir's good with the Black Panther Kid Omega stuff. I think no one's actually given it's because honestly, like

Alex: 1:14:13

when I didn't buy Kid Omega and then when Kid Omega finally came out, I added it to my collection and then just never played it. Like, I literally have not played a single game of Kid Omega. I

Dekkster: 1:14:22

feel like he's just like a poop stain on my, uh, my collection. Even though like you can get him in a pack now, it is just don't wanna mess with him, yeah. It's like he's been skunked on, do you just throw him away?

Alex: 1:14:33

Yeah, for the same reason why, honestly, like I've not been playing despite the fact that I'm like one of the biggest evil fans on the planet. I've not been playing much clown car because like, just the connotation of playing fantastic car. You know, I, I, you play it and people just rock at you and you're just like, if I feel it man, I feel it in my soul anyway. So you're higher on air walker and fire lord than I am. But you know what, sir? This has been an incredibly long podcast and, um, should we mention, we gotta mention Pax before we end it. We gotta mention Pax because, okay. You and I will be at

Dekkster: 1:15:03

PAX Prime. Will we not? Oh, I thought you meant like Snap pax. Um, yes, we will. Is it? I thought, is it Pax Prime? I thought it was just PAX West.

Alex: 1:15:12

PAX Prime was the original name. Cool. People call it Pax Prime. I guess I'm not cool. PAX West Seattle. Yes. So, uh, Dexter and I will be at PAX West Seattle. Perhaps look it out to keep an eye out in our like YouTube community feeds or Twitter or whatever, because maybe we'll do a little, potentially a little meet and greet. Little meet and greet if you guys wanna

Dekkster: 1:15:32

hang out and hug. Uh, yeah. I mean, we're talking with Ryan Hartman, but he is, uh, I guess he's like busy or something, but he's possibly one of busiest guys, you know?

Alex: 1:15:42

Yeah.

Dekkster: 1:15:43

We might do a meet and greet, or maybe not, but it'd be like embarrassing if the line was like five people, you know? It's just me signing your, your chest. Uh, we could do

Alex: 1:15:53

that. Yeah. We could

Dekkster: 1:15:54

just sign each

Alex: 1:15:54

other's chest and just call it a day. Yeah. That makes perfect sense. Why are we, why are we even doing a meet and greet at all? Then we can, we can just arrange that on our own time. We could just do that in the hotel. Oh, perfect. That's perfect. I'm glad, I'm glad this was done publicly. This conversation was done. The, these plans were best made public. This is fantastic. But yeah, uh, we're gonna be at PAX Prime if you happen to be going, uh, Dexter and I will be there Friday and Saturday and, uh, keep an eye on our social shows because there might be an opportunity to do like a little meet and greet or like a signing or something like that, uh, at some point on Friday or Saturday. We're still trying to organize that. But outside of that, guys, I have to tell you honestly how much I appreciate Dexter.'cause Dexter took time out of his busy schedule at the last minute to come on this podcast. And honestly, this has been a refreshing opportunity to talk Marvel Snap with an absolute God gamer, one of the highest ranked gamers in Marvel, Snap, Dexter. You're a funny guy, but you know what? You're also incredibly talented, and that's not necessarily something that I think you don't really pump your chest about. You don't really talk about your rank and your skill, but you are legitimately one of the most talented card game card game players I've ever seen. And I watch your stream all the time and I'm continuously impressed at how good you are at this game and how I, I like literally how like, critical like you think about individual plays, how well you describe them. And if you're not subscribed to Dexter on YouTube or on Twitch, if you don't follow along, I have links in the pin comment and the description down below where I implore you to check out his content.'cause honestly, dude, you're one of my absolute favorite creators. I told you, I, dude, I told you this when we first spoke back in like dec, like was it December when I did like that spotlight on Creator's video, when like Snap first launched? I told you I, I used to watch your Hearthstone videos, dude. And so when years you came into the Snap World, I was excited'cause I knew you from her stone and now you're here. And dude, I think that you've absolutely crushed it. So thank you for being on this pod. But most importantly guys, you gotta check out Dexter if you haven't already. He's legit one of the goats of Marvel Snap. Thank you so much for watching, guys. We sincerely appreciate you guys listening and watching this Marvel Snapchat podcast. It really does mean a lot to us, and we'll see you next week.