Elixir: Destroy Has A New Toy | Best & Worst Card Predictions (Aged Like Milk) | Prodigy In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 133

Is Elixir a new staple for Destroy decks? What will Cozy and Alex think about their past hot takes? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on Prodigy? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Transcript

Cozy Snap: 0:00

What's going on guys? And welcome back to yet another episode of the Snapchat. I'm joined as always by the one, the only Mr. Alex Kocha. And Alex, we've got ourselves a good episode Today. We're gonna be talking about Elixir, a card that I know we're just both so pumped about. I. But listen, on your side of the Snapchat, we typically do like a cards in review. Today we're gonna be reacting to our best and worst takes for all the cards. Not all of them, but a lot of the big ones that have come from Alyth to Miss Marvel. What did we say? What was our takes on'em? I think it's gonna be the ultimate feedback session, man. How you doing though?

Alexander Coccia: 0:35

I am doing good. I'm kind of nervous about this whole, like, let's watch the cringe moments of the past. First of all, seeing myself like a long time ago, like, I dunno if you feel this, but like when I watch old videos of myself, I'm always like, oh my gosh. I just, I, it's so weird watching old you do things and say stuff on online, it's it's really bizarre. I don't know if you can kind of attest to that, but like, I'm actually super nervous'cause I've had some some really, well, I was gonna say hilarious takes, but I don't know if it's funny.

Cozy Snap: 1:00

I know the ones I missed, like right off the rip, but you know, I'm actually interested to see what we said about like, some of the good meta cards. Like to me, first we were doing these, you know, we always do these before they land. So it's like looking back at before they were playable, but then also what we know two years down the line, no matter what, we're gonna look stupid like. That's what I can't wait for. As far as like looking towards the past I kind of, I think. I don't feel it too much, but what I will say is that camera presence is a skill like anything, and you get better at that over time. And so there's nothing, like if I go back and watch an old video of me in like high school, I don't care. But watching old, old videos of me is funny on YouTube because yeah, camera presence drastically changes. I feel. It's definitely like a muscle that you work out.

Alexander Coccia: 1:44

And it's funny you say that because like some of my older stuff, like my old variety content on my channel, even some of my Doda stuff, I was so much more energetic. It was just like kind of like my thing at the time. And like I was younger. Same dude. I had less children and like it was just, I. Yeah, I just had way more energy and I think that's one of the things that really brought us together early on. Like even early in my Snap career, I brought a lot of that early energy and now I'm a little quieter. I'm a little more run down, they might say a little more experienced. And so I, it's a very different vibe. I feel.

Cozy Snap: 2:15

My main thing is that I. Ha. So when I was recording, and I still have this I don't have ac we've talked about this in the house. So back in the day I had no idea how to work, like audio settings, which people, there's someone who says, I have a lot of like mouth sounds. I don't hear it on my end guys. I'm sorry if I do, but I had an ac I still do right next to my setup and it was just blowing constant air. And this one, I got used to be like an industrial one and so I had to like essentially crank it where my mic would not pick up anything that was like. M you know, below a certain level. So I was screaming into the mic like all the time, my first year with the built-in hype that I already have. And so like going back and watching that, I'm legit yelling at the camera, not even knowing I am too.'cause I would have the studios on back then. Still do, I actually just didn't charge'em again. So the. They're, they're, they're, they're here. They're just dead. But go, that to me is funny'cause I'm just screaming all the time on a constant basis. And I built this whole studio just to use green screen now on like, all my stuff on arrivals. But I think it's fun to go back in the past a little bit.

Alexander Coccia: 3:17

I always like I, I often lay in bed and I'll like, watch your rival stuff'cause I just wanna know what's going on. Like, I dunno. So you've been doing some really cool stuff there. I like it. And I like that you've been actually doing some longer stuff too, so I get to like lay back and just watch it like you did, like a 44 minute video on like who might be coming to. Dude, that was a fun one.

Cozy Snap: 3:33

That was my favorite video before. Yeah, it was

Alexander Coccia: 3:34

cool just sitting there back and it's. It's funny'cause when my wife came in the room, I actually went back to the beginning and I was like, yo, watch how he walks int VA style every time. I'm like, I love, and I'm like, I, I wanted to find the one where you go in with the Strange portal, but I couldn't remember what it was. I was like, the strange portal's. My favorite, I do strange like portals for the ads. Oh, they're so good

Cozy Snap: 3:51

for the ads. I do the Strange Portal and for the for the, for the rest of it. I do the, the TV guys, if find yourself a hype man like Alex and you'll, you'll never have a sad day in your life. Yeah. You know what's the best thing about rivals is the pressure of getting videos. Like this game is just like every day I had to do a turnover and it just didn't work with the production side of what I like to put into content. And I, it's been seven days since my last rivals video, so like I just don't have that rush anymore and I can put more polished product out there, which is one of the things I love right now. Just having kid, you know, just being in chaos. So, Alex, I need, I, I feel like it's my civil right to, to. Make, I don't know if s rights the word. I'm gonna use it though. It's important that I talk about something before we go into the Snapchat. Okay, Alex? I think I have not spent more time on a game, especially a solo campaign game than Expedition 33 and I think Expedition 33. Might be on my top five best games of all time. I have a hundred percent of the game. I've completed it. Head to toe A to Z. Don't have time for it. Don't know where I found time to do it, but I did it. Guys, if you have not played this game, I don't care if you like turn bass or not. This was one of the best games I've ever played, man. Have you got, I know you've been dabbling with it and you were playing a little bit before we got on here. Where are you? I feel like knowing you, you like just passed the prologue.

Alexander Coccia: 5:12

I'm exactly like eight hours and 30 minutes in. Oh, okay. To give you an idea, when I go to log in,'cause I play on both my Xbox in bed and I was on my PC now'cause we, we were just, I was waiting for you to come and I was like, I'll just place some expedition three three while I wait for Cozy. And so I was playing and it said, when I logged in it said like eight minutes and 30 seconds. Or eight hours and 30 minutes. So,

Cozy Snap: 5:30

so are you in like the Flying Waters Living Waters place or are you past that?

Alexander Coccia: 5:35

I don't want to get, get any spoiler. That's spoilers the most. That's

Cozy Snap: 5:38

spoil, that's the location. Yeah, it's fine.

Alexander Coccia: 5:40

Yeah. Yeah. I'll say this in a way that only someone who could know would know. I'm looking for a rock.

Cozy Snap: 5:46

Hmm. Yes. Great, great part of the story. Actually there's lots

Alexander Coccia: 5:51

of lamps everywhere. Where I am, I, I got into a boss fight as you messaged me.

Cozy Snap: 5:55

Okay? So here's the deal. I, I just was not expected. I think you can relate with this. Solo player games, they just don't grasp me like they used to. Like even oblivion, remake. I love it. I played it a lot, but it it, it didn't grab me like it used to. And in old games like this, right back in the day, cottor, all these, I would, I mean, I would sink in hundreds of hours because I just don't have time. And because my job is now gaming, so I just like, I'm already in this office so much. Right? Like it's just tough to, to, to make more time to do it. Dude, this game, you know what it is. I realize that stories in a game. It's not that I'm not even big on stories and games, it's that there are so many poorly written games out there because this game had me gripped like I was watching a movie. The, the story is the number one best thing about this game, hands down.

Alexander Coccia: 6:40

It's incredible. And I will say that the thing that stands out about Expedition 33 is it feels like it's crafted with a lot of love. Like, it feels like the developers and the writers, like they put their heart and soul into it. Like the story, the story isn't just like. They asked chat, GBD, how do, like, how does the hero has a thousand faces work? Or the hero's journey work? Yeah. And like, just generate some like cookie cutter plot. This is someone's heart and soul soul. So good dude that's in it. And then, and you can feel it in the music too, boys acting OST is amazing. It's awesome. It's

Cozy Snap: 7:10

going to win, like, for sure. I think it's gonna win game of the year, but if it doesn't, it'll, it'll, it's gonna at least win the soundtrack of the year. No, dude, it was charting classical charts like on the billboard. Like how insane is that?

Alexander Coccia: 7:25

It's incredible. It's, it's awesome. And like, honestly, I'm looking forward to finishing it. Like, curiously, how long does it take you to be like, because it tells you the hours.

Cozy Snap: 7:31

So I'm, I was a completionist, so I made sure I did everything on it because honestly, it was the first game in a long time. I did not want to in, right. So like, I was like, I, I could approach the ending and I was like, no, wait, I'm gonna do everything first. So I think I'm 40, 40 to 45 hours. I think somewhere in there. That's 45 hours I think is where I'm at. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 7:48

And that's, so I still have a long way to go. Ironically,

Cozy Snap: 7:50

you do. And that's gonna be one of the things that shock you. Like it's kind of I, I got this feeling back in Twilight Princess. I remember doing something in that game and being like, oh, I think I beat it in Zelda. And then a whole nother like, I was like one-fourth through the game. I was like, oh, what? Okay. I still have a lot, you know, a long way to go. You have seen, you know, nothing, John Snow is all I have to say. Like, there is so much ahead of you that there, there's things that will transpire that will continue to have you be like, wait. I do think this is like one of the best games I've ever played.

Alexander Coccia: 8:17

That's good to know because I, I've absolutely loved it and I do want to commit more time to it, but sometimes I only get like half hour at a time to play it. Right. I actually wanna make more time to play more variety stuff and like, just for like my own fun. I know that there's an audience out there that wants to see it too. Like for instance, like Elder Elden Ring, night Reign is coming out. That's a three player co-op PVE thing for, for Elden Ring. And I think that's gonna be pretty cool. So I wanna get that. But yeah, there's, there's, there's so many games out right now and, i've just been having fun, dipping my toes back into just a little bit of variety stuff. For sure, man.

Cozy Snap: 8:48

So guys, that's your, that is your message to go play it, test it out. I'm telling you, this is not an ad or even thing, anything close to it. I feel like it's my due diligence to tell you guys how good of a game it was, and I had no expectations. I did not think a top five 10 game in my life was gonna be in 2025. I thought those days were behind me, so. It's good stuff. Go check it out. Awesome thing. But we probably should talk about it. And this is your cue on the time stamps that we are talking about Marvel Snap. So we're gonna talk about Elixir today. Our bad, our good takes Buddy. What do we talk about on your side of the Snapchat?

Alexander Coccia: 9:17

Ozi, on my side of the snapshot, we're gonna be discussing Prodigy in Review Hat some time to play Prodigy. We're gonna let you know what we think. We're also gonna be talking about Snaps Must own cards. The cards that you absolutely have to have in your collection than, as always, our Snapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap: 9:32

Well buddy, we had Prodigy last week. This week we have Elixir, a new way to destroy, but not really, but kind of a new way to interact with Destroy. And he's a two cost, three power card on Reveal. One of your cards destroyed last turn, gets revived at elixir's location. Now, no shock to anybody. We were not too hot about this card when we looked at the general overview. Alex, where are you right now with this card? How are you feeling? Gimme a star rating. I think you gave him a one.

Alexander Coccia: 9:59

You know what I am the highest I can go is two, but I'm gonna stay with one. Like, I just don't like the card. I've been trying to prepare myself for the, like, the release on Tuesday. Something that like you could obviously attest to Cozy. Is that like when a new I. Cards coming out. I try to heavily prep my decks for Tuesday because a lot of people watch my videos and I wanna make sure that the decks I'm providing are good. Like I want them to have good win rates. I want them to be successful. I want them to be well crafted. And usually even when we come into these conversations, you know that I have like decks ready, decks in mind. Sometimes you spur an idea or two. Right? But generally I'm pretty prepared with Elixir. I have spent the last five days. Trying to pen and paper a number of different decks and trying to be a little innovative and everything I've made, I hate, like I look at it and I'm like, this deck is just a crappier version of blank. And so like, I'm not sure why this is a series five card. I'm not sure what they see in it from a perspective that it has to be a two three, can't even be like a calling wing, two four range. I just don't see it. I wanna be wrong. I hope someone cooks something insane and I'm gonna continue trying. Like, I'm gonna try and come up with something crazy, but as of right now, cozy, like, I'm just not feeling it, man.

Cozy Snap: 11:17

Yeah. And I hate to be like Debbie Downer two weeks in a row. We were not big on Prodigy. We're not big on Elixir. And I think I'm gonna join you at this point in time. We know so much about the game and interactions. Interactions in the game, and, and really. You know, net 50 decks that are existing in Snap's ecosystem. And then like, where can Elixir serve his greater purpose? And what the tough part about him is, is that what he's doing is already done by other cards in a more synergistic way and or they're just better. Like, it's almost like he came out before it. And the cards that are there in the game right now are power crept on him, right? Like it's just a different way to interact. So. First of all, the biggest thing is this guy is built hands down for car card Kid Omega, which is gonna be his card to go with a hundred percent. Very good card. I need to pull up what it does. I forgot. But it that I could get up the text here in a little bit, but that card, you're gonna wanna elixir with him. I think that's gonna be a very good combo to have. It's still, you know, we, we, we don't love cards that rely on other cards, you know, all the time because then you're set up to fail sometimes. Let me pull it up. Actually, I'm getting this pulled up right now guys, just'cause I wanna make sure you guys understand that if you do wanna go for him, it's because of this. Here we go. So currently he's, this is probably what he's gonna stay at to, he's a two, two activate, destroy the next card. You play this turn to gain its power so that, that's why this thing's kind of nice.'cause then you can kind of destroy. You have this card that could destroy at any point in time. It gains the power to Kid Omega, and then also then you can revive it next turn. So that's definitely gonna have some nice synergy there. But I agree at this current moment, I think I'm gonna give him a one star. I think I can go up to two when Kid, kid, kid Omega goes out maybe even higher if there's some nice synergy there. There's just a lot I don't like about it. I think I would've liked him at a one cost on, on reveal.'cause then you can maybe make him work in a bit more cool ways. You know, I thought about doing Black Panther. You could always play him on five and then maybe on six you could do something. Whatever. I don't, I, and you'd still have to work a way to get some of that worked out with Artola, whatever. There's just being two is a clunky cost for this card and what it wants to do, especially in base destroy decks. That's not the question. Right. But then on top of it, even in the niche destroy decks and the different hybrids that we have out there. Yeah. I, it just, he, he doesn't really seem to have a lot of place in synergy there. There's some cope we could talk about, but he does seem like for such a cool character too, just not that great.

Alexander Coccia: 13:40

You absolutely knocked outta the park. Like what you just said was exactly how I felt. And on the note of Kid Omega, by the way, I had that thought as well. And I didn't wanna rank this card or star this card based off of a card that has only been data mine and we don't know when it's coming out. Yeah, that's true because I feel like a, first of all, this Elixir itself was an activate card that was potentially better. And then it got changed to an non-real and was worse. It was a one cost activate, right? So already this card got changed to be worse. And then when you look at Kid, kid Omega, there's a chance that it gets changed to be worse. There's also a chance that it doesn't come out when we think it is. Do you guys remember? Dumb dumb, like dumb dumb dug and was supposed to come out. He just didn't, he just didn't come out, Jim. So I think, yeah, so I think you're right. Like we can't rank this card on a. Based off of Omega, which obviously is synergistic, but it's not in our hands yet. And it's data mind. Don't count those chickens before they hatch.

Cozy Snap: 14:33

And even if you do count the chickens, your chicken counter, this right here says unreleased card releases June 12th. Dude, that's a month away. So even then you have a long way to wait at a limited time event. And so it looks like either way, whether he's coming, he's gonna come in a while. You know, I think it's always important to look down the line on a card and seeing if it's gonna be good, but at this current moment, yeah. Elixir, I just don't see it. So like a couple synergy stuff. I'm gonna stick with you at one star. I think a couple synergy stuff you can talk about. I think Venom to me has me probably the most excited because of the sense of like, you're able to you know, eat something up and then you can kind of go do a, a combo from there. Maybe it's a net. The problem is a lot of the cool stuff are, are five cost tokens. So like. Black Panther, like I said, NI rod, it's like this cool stuff. It's like, well, it's last turn and that is what I think I, I wish it was the last card you destroyed because last turn screws this so many different ways. Number one, it makes it where it's, you know, it's might as well be an activate card because you lose the turn six. But then on top of that, you don't even get to pick, let's say carnage eats everything up in a lane. You don't even get, get to pick what car gets revived. So there's like multiple things that are going on against it.

Alexander Coccia: 15:49

And it made me wonder why they chose that text. Like the text is specific enough that Glenn probably started with one of your cards that got destroyed as revived here and then changed it to the last turn. And it makes me wonder, what did they find in testing? Like what did they test? That they determined that, oh, this needs the last turn condition.'cause that condition is actually insanely impactful to the viability of this card. It's not necessary. This, it's kind of unique to the scheme. Is this the last, is this the first time we've seen this last turn type thing? I can't even think of another car.

Cozy Snap: 16:23

Don't even know example. I don't even know. I don't even know if oh, I do firestar, right? I think fire, fire. The car that never came out. But I actually know guys what happened to Firestar. I do, I can't say what happened under NDA, but I do know. Actually, no, buddy. I don't even know. Come on. You can't do, I just happen to be at the, no, I, I know I happen to be at the right place at the right time, but I cannot talk on it. Is NDA the extra does too, but it's also ND dare.

Alexander Coccia: 16:46

How dare you do this to me. I've wanted to talk about it

Cozy Snap: 16:48

forever, dude. I know it's not as spicy as you think, but, I mean kind of actually it is actually kind of spice. It's actually spicy than you think probably. Anyway my guess is, here's my guess with why not. They couldn't do that and I have no idea, but maybe you could do something with Nimrod Kid Omega carnage where you, like, you could bring back, you could like activate Kid Omega, hit the Nimrod. Then you carnage the mro, then you elixir that back. So you have like all these MROs going, or even reverse order of that. Maybe it's something like that. Like that's the only thing I could see. But even then it's like, okay, there's still crazy stuff. Card combo. Yeah. It's still like more, I know like there, but whatever. I think that there's, there's gonna be more instances of those out there, but it's just funny to me it's like he was a one cost activate. I'm like I'm not, you know, some activates are really good, but I'm not crazy about it all the time. Now it's pretty much still an activate because on reveal, you know, you have to wait. Like if it was a two cost activate that you could, you know, revive, at least you can put'em down on curve, right? But this, you have to play always late and off curve, essentially. You know

Alexander Coccia: 17:49

what you gotta do? So you have like a blob sitting in the lo location ready to get punched out. Actually, better example, strange supreme, no Cosmo. He's sitting there, he's just chin. He's, you know, he's gonna chin, chin, chin, chin, shachi. What you do is you play ghost is why I hear cope. You play ghost to make sure you throw initiative. You allow that stronger to punch out your strange supreme. You play elixir, you bring him back. For no net power gain, you just bring them back. And, and victory. I guess this is one of those, like with Elixir, you know, the underpants gnomes we talked about. Yes. You know, get underpants question mark profit. That's what Elixir feels like.

Cozy Snap: 18:27

So I appreciate the cope. I, for me, I feel like, I feel like. There's a couple of synergies that might end up working. I think Nico, whenever you can pull that off, is actually kind of cool. Like you can end up doing something kind of decent with Nico, especially if you get it on a favorable, you know, turn that you could play her down on three or four and then you could play something into that and that, you know, net then you got something at least interesting happening. Locations are kind of cool with'em too. I mean, you can kind of get things going, you know, there's more locations than you think out there that end up working to your favor. So you've got that as well. I'm deep. I'm, I'm, I'm reaching, I'm reaching kind of deep, right? Like there's not, there's not as much as you'd like to think Killmonger could kind of work. You've got that a little bit. That time. Time, you know, that's, that's about what we got. You know? I.

Alexander Coccia: 19:16

And I do think that misery is gonna find a place too. Like some of my early designs were like, okay, how can I do like a misery mill deck where I misery like a zemo, a gladiator? And both those cards coming back is good. Like you could do cable zemo into a, misery use elixir on the next turn. And both those cards are beneficial to bring back. For the most part if you're, if you're attempting to mill right. You can also consider the curve of debris into misery into elixir. And they just can't play. Like the board is just rammed solid, right? So like I do think there's some misery combinations and I, that's where I think I'm gonna ultimately go because I think it's. It gets really koy from there, but but misery's already double dipping on the on reveals and so like, I don't know if L's even necessary in those decks.

Cozy Snap: 20:05

It's funny too'cause like, I don't know, obviously Riss does the opponent's card, but you've got Riss that does like the highest powered card at a two three as an activate. I. Oh, I know man. Uncle Ben, you get two uncle bins, two spidermans. You can destroy. Look at that. You got that going. There's some good synergy. One costs on curve two with

Alexander Coccia: 20:20

with great power comes great resurrection.

Cozy Snap: 20:22

Lot of cope, lot of cope on that one. So listen, those are the main ones. I guess you could maybe maybe go with like a Bucky Barnes, all of it there. There's stuff out there. You got the Atum cope, you've got stuff that exists out there. It just doesn't get us too excited, especially with the honor reveal added two three and sadly. We're gonna have to wait for Kid Omega to get some things going with this. I mean, I, I think we can both feel pretty confident that there's not gonna be anything that just like blows our mind with this deck.

Alexander Coccia: 20:48

No. And you know what? It's also one of those situations guys, where honestly, if it does come out and someone like cooks hard and there's something really cool, I like to see it. Oh yeah.'cause this is the car that like you're gonna get in. Yeah. You're gonna get incidentally smoked by pulling elixir when you're rolling your, your spotlight cash, not Cassius, your packs and stuff. This is the problem though.'cause now you have the packs and you got the filth of the packs. The packs are getting stuff with landmines, guys. It's happening. It's exactly what Cozy and I said was gonna happen. So then you know, if you end up getting it,'cause you end up getting it, I want there to be a good deck to play with it, you know what I mean? And who knows? We just might get there on Tuesday.

Cozy Snap: 21:24

Well listen, speaking of right Takes, wrong takes. I have them in an order on subjects down there below, but we're gonna kind of just watch them all together. Alex and I have grabbed the most honestly, I don't even know if they're infamous and I have no idea what we even said. There's a couple like. Like there's a couple that I know that we shot off bad and wrong, but there's some, I have no idea. Like the Loki season. I don't know what our initial thoughts were. Nika Meru, there's some cool cars to look back as Alex and I kind of real back time and take a look at our best and worst car takes in Marvel. Snap. Let's look at it. Alright guys, so here we are. We went all the way back to start and I have not seen any of this. First of all, the old layout, man, just goaded status. But this is when the one and only series drop kind of happens back, or when they dropped a bunch of cards all at once and we had the introduction of series five, big bad series four. And Alex and I on this episode kind of cover all of'em. We're not gonna listen to 30 minutes worth of stuff, not even close, but we're gonna jump around and kind of hear our takes right away. Alex, though, no glasses man. Look at you. You look like a, you look like a young spring chicken here.

Alexander Coccia: 22:30

I look, it's funny. I feel like I look exactly the same minus the glasses, which is so funny. You take the glasses off and so you just look totally different. And this is how I look every day of my life. I don't wear glasses anywhere else. I literally only wear glasses in front of my camera, which is so strange, cozy. You look like you're like six years younger. Dude, I,

Cozy Snap: 22:49

first of all this is I do this is I didn't get a haircut for a very long time and I just kept telling myself, just swoosh it to the side. That's what, don't worry. Just let

Alexander Coccia: 22:57

it go. Yeah. I do I look younger? Oh, you look so much like, you look disproportionately younger than I do. Like, I look almost the same. You look like you're way younger.

Cozy Snap: 23:08

I think it's just the camera. I but yeah, probably, I, I do look, I do look a lot younger actually. I do, now that I see my face, man, there's a lot of, this was let's see, this was. Man, this was a month into my first kid, so there's a lot of life lived in between this man. Alright, so let's see what we have to say card by card here.

Alexander Coccia: 23:30

What are your thoughts on Galactus? So, Galactus is one of those cards I think is perfect for series five or pool five. I'm gonna have a really hard time with this, by the way. Oh yeah. Series versus, okay.

Cozy Snap: 23:40

That's right. They, they, we, we just. Somebody started call them pools and we just all started call calling them pools and then I think Bro, broad on an official video. Right. Wasn't he like, by the way, it's series.

Alexander Coccia: 23:53

Yes. I think they made a joke about it too. We all called it like pool one, pool two, pool three for the longest time all through beta. And then I think when they officially announced series four, they used the Word series. And then everyone's like, wait, what? And then I think Broad had tried to like verify that. Yes, it's it's series now. And what's crazy about this is this is also prior to Glen. Being there too, right? Oh, oh yeah. So like, I'm looking at this six three Galactus. It's like, I don't know, it's interesting. I wonder what Glen would've released it at

Cozy Snap: 24:20

OG Galactus Honor reveal if this is your only card. Destroy all other locations. No other, no other stipulations for it. Alright here, this

Alexander Coccia: 24:28

is Pool. I saw your, I saw your YouTube community poll. Yeah. I'm gonna throw the results on the

Cozy Snap: 24:32

screen right now for the viewers, guys. 76% said they like pool still. It's like, it's like baby Yoda and Gro Gu. Okay. It's gro gu bud, but no one calls it. No one calls it Gro Gu. I don't know. It'll be tough to switch over baby Yoda. It'll be switched. Yeah, I know. You're right. It'll be, it'll be tough.

Alexander Coccia: 24:48

Is that like, it's an incredible effect and with an amazing animation. That is absolutely jaw dropping when it lands. But it's not an overpowered card. If anything, if this is like a mainstay in your deck, you are like, you're, you're playing a dangerous game.'cause Galactus is so easy to just throw a game with. He's a three power buddy. He got hugely buffed before he became a menace. He was still pretty good though. This was OG Glock. He

Cozy Snap: 25:15

was still pretty good here, dude. Dude, they, he was definitely still good here. This was, I dunno if he was good. I'm trying to remember, bro, you the only stipulation. Someone could do everything all game correctly, but if they didn't play in a location, you could win.

Alexander Coccia: 25:30

Because, yeah, I guess because you would set up everything else so that like you would just munch all the other locations, bring over the wolverine, et cetera. Yeah, I remember that. I remember those days Maybe. Maybe. I feel like he got buffed though. Where do you have this guy? I am so unsure. I have him at one and at six at the same time, and I don't know what to do because it's like, I feel like. Super scroll can be used to grief you so effectively. Like if I see super scroll out there and it becomes meta. But that's the thing, like you can't really rely on your opponent having a ultra rare card. So like, you can't like play your, that's the thing You'll never know. You'll never know. Yeah. That's the thing. It'll always be a surprise when it comes out on the board. Right. So like you can't be like, I'm gonna put prox in just to mess'em up. Right? Yeah. Like you can't do that with type four. You can't reliably know unless, I mean, there's a location that like. I can't remember what the planet they're from. They're What about you? What's you even talking about?

Cozy Snap: 26:24

You, you're kind of right though. You were kind of right here. You said it's either a one or a six. I don't know why we're doing a six point scale for these. I guess we were or do we, I think we're

Alexander Coccia: 26:32

ranking them orders one to six. Oh, okay. Okay. Six. Okay.

Cozy Snap: 26:35

So you said it's either the best or the worst card. That was actually pretty right. Man. That was not bad. I'm actually proud of you for that one. Thank you. I thought I thought you were gonna get, oh, dude. Sherry, do you feel like we gave Sherry a good. A good rating.

Alexander Coccia: 26:47

I, I feel like we had to. Sheri was so good, so fast, and I do remember you really pumping Sheri, like Sherry's the best card in

Cozy Snap: 26:55

Snap. Yeah, I did. But cool. That brings us to what I think is the best card. Without question, I think. I think Sheri's the number one. I mean, this isn't even a question, but this was not the common take. I'm telling you people were not too, too crazy on her. They were like, oh, it seems okay, but it's only one car, dude. Old cheery guys used to be able to play the double power anywhere on the board. That's so stupid. They, that's so good. How did, how did we not know that was be, I'm a little nervous about her now. Yeah, yeah. There's Cosmo, but like, I'm sorry. Like people threw out the word Cosmo too much. Like, dude, you can work around Cosmo on reveal, double the power for your next card. First of all, going back to Mr. Negative, this is the card I wanted to bring up for Galactus. I think she could completely change the game there.

Alexander Coccia: 27:37

But also, dude, just actually that's a good point because you could surey into Galactus double its power and it didn't matter what location you played on, right?

Cozy Snap: 27:44

Yeah. She was a two four, right? So with negative, I guess you would have a two four into a Galactus. That was like a three six. I was thinking that was an awful take. But we actually did see Surey and Mr. Negative decks. You remember like kind of the Wakanda negative deck we saw. I do

Alexander Coccia: 27:57

remember. Yeah. And it's also worth noting that like you were so correct here.'cause Sheri dominated the meta for like four months. Like they didn't know what to do about Sheri for a long time. And then Zbu came out and it was around that time they tried to go full circle and, and bring Sheri in. Right. This, it dominated the, the whole December two February range of time during that launch. I think until like.

Cozy Snap: 28:18

I think it took till like, yeah, March until they, they, they did anything about her. I think it was even later than that potentially. Alright, we're gonna skip bass. We're gonna go to Thanos. This one, bro. I know. I think we all just said he was gonna be a fun card. I think so, right? I think I was kind of high on him, but I also feel like maybe not here. I think this was too, man, I look like a deer in the headlights on every single freeze frame.

Alexander Coccia: 28:38

I feel like. I look like I'm sleeping or I'm going in for the kiss. I'm not sure what I'm doing. Actual power is so weak because their effect is so strong, like a mystique, their power. So suddenly make talking about here,

Cozy Snap: 28:50

let's wait for hundred percent. That's a good card. A hundred percent. Man. I was talking about Patriot today on the video and, and then like, I don't care if Patriot was zero. I mean, you get what? You get what you need. Like, you know, like the one cost is just a little bonus. So he'll be fun. And then we end on man, we end on Thanos, which I think we can all agree is the most high hype. You know, like, it's freaking Yeah, it's Thanos man. Thanos is my, my favorite villain, man of all time. I love him. Now I think a lot of people are instantly discounting him because of the infinity. You look like you're.

Alexander Coccia: 29:18

I probably am. I got the moon in the background. My old setup, I'm trying to stay with you. Never looked up. I also noticed that like my monitors, I have'em now set up so that like I can, it looks like when I'm looking at you speaking, I'm actually looking in your general direction before. I didn't have that and so like, I'm clearly looking at you, but like my eye level's down and then I used to look out to like my door to make it look like I was looking at you and I would just listen to what you're saying and then try to like cue myself. It's so funny, like we're so much more awkward.

Cozy Snap: 29:49

No, this is so funny, man. This is only four episodes in. To be fair, man, we only four weeks in the snapshot. We are now 200 and or not 200. We're a hundred something weeks to do it now. Stones, and we don't have good draw mechanics at the moment. Dude, I don't know. I think there's gonna be some fun to be made around him. I think at the moment he presents himself as the, the weakest, per se, or, you know, the bottom of the, of the, of the more rare cards. But the stones man.

Alexander Coccia: 30:16

Yeah, the stones wild. Have you seen

Cozy Snap: 30:17

these ability, okay, so I was low on Thanos as a car, but the stones we like more. Okay. That made more sense. They're insane. Like the mind stone is draw two stones, so there you go. Like, you know, it's, yeah, it's gonna be a bit more RNG for sure. We're so fixated on like the dilution of the, I'm definitely excited. What are your thoughts on Thanos?

Alexander Coccia: 30:34

Again, it's a card that on the surface doesn't look like it's broken. But I could be wrong. This is like, there's no way to make an accurate assessment without playing this, right? Like there's no way without playing it that you make an accurate assessment. Of course, you dilute your deck with the stones, right? But the stones themselves have the draw based mechanic. Every one of them draws a card. Then you have,

Cozy Snap: 30:51

this card was busted. Man, this car was so busted. Yeah, this is so

Alexander Coccia: 30:54

stupid. Space stone and this. Space, stone and of itself is what made the lock jaw variation so good.'cause you could repeatedly open space. Yeah. Even with the visions and stuff like that, it wasn't until that that was discovered that Thanos actually went off.

Cozy Snap: 31:09

Yeah. So this was November 27th. Lock jaw was not played till like mid-January.

Alexander Coccia: 31:15

Yeah, it took, yeah, two months. Thanos sat like languishing and nothing really changed other than, oh, someone put lockjaw Thanos together and then crushed it.

Cozy Snap: 31:23

Alright, so we're gonna fast forward here and we are now going to Loki's season, which I'm actually pretty amped now. I saw on this, there's a thumbnail of there is, I think Mobius was like offered in the store before he came out or something like that. I, it was like the first time they, Avery did something like that. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 31:40

I think what happened was Mobius came out and he was in a gold bundle, like a week and a half or two weeks after his release. Ah. Which made it like I, I don't remember. It was something about a gold bundle and, and Mobius. And Mobius. And he was also broken at the time. He got nerfed super fast, right?

Cozy Snap: 31:58

Yeah. I do know this. The only thing I know about going into the Lowkey conversation is that we were immensely hype about this season. We thought this was gonna be like the best season ever. So I know we're gonna go in at a good number. I just wanna know what we. Say about it, but I'm pretty sure we were losing it on all of these hours about from when we post this Loki is coming to Marvel. Snap, Alex, and good God. This is gonna be a fun conversation to have. I mean, just talking about an iconic character coming to the game. Loki is up there next to like Gene Gray. We haven't gotten a lot of just super iconic season pass highlight cards, silver Surfer and it rings a bell as well. He's a three cost, five power card with the ability on reveal. Replace your hand with cards from your opponent's starting deck and give them negative one cost. I wanna highlight a couple things. Mm-hmm. Replace means if you have cars in your hand. They'll be swapped out with cards in their starting deck. And then also big time thing to highlight here, negative one cost. And I think Alex, no minimum, I think that's a big thing to highlight. Not like Quinjet, not like these other cards, bro. I forgot. There's no minimum too. Oh my gosh.

Alexander Coccia: 33:06

How was this? We went to zero. That's insane. And like looking at this right now, knowing what we know. With the experience that we have. This card is so unbelievable. Three five. Three five. I like it's stupid. Crazy. And you know what, I know that like we were excited for it, but I think, I think that we were like expecting to be a fun card, not a competitive card. This was a soul crushing meta dominator three five. It's crazy.

Cozy Snap: 33:31

So crazy. Like this is, I feel like. They like Disney must have reached out and been like, we're, we're launching the new Loki season. We need'em to be op. I, there's nothing else. Let's see what we said about'em. You can make one cost, zero cost, and that's gonna be huge. Initial thoughts on Loki.

Alexander Coccia: 33:50

My initial thoughts are super positive. I am really looking forward to this card. I, I love the design of it because of how disruptive it is. I think the scouting element, the mischief side of it, I think they capture the lore, they capture the flavor of what Loki is. I think that it has the potential to be very, very powerful for the exact reason that you just mentioned. Let's go Alex. You can bring cards down to zero cost. Yes. And that's huge. That's huge.'cause we know that's an immensely powerful effect. That's the whole reason why Quinjet got Nerf. That, that it's huge. Right? Whether or not he gets played on three though, it's funny how like I've been playing with like Dex for and stuff like that and it's like, you know what? It's interesting bro. You look. 10 years younger here. Bt dumb. I was gonna say, why do I look so good here? Like, I look legit good. Like, what's going on? I show my wife this pic so she remembers what it, what it was like for me to actually be a relatively attractive human being. Why, why do I look so good in this shot?

Cozy Snap: 34:39

I don't know. But I also, why are we streaming from two Nokia sevens like, bro, our, our quality looks pretty bad, but you do, you look you look, you look like a soccer player.

Alexander Coccia: 34:48

Buddy. I, I, I used to be a soccer player. Now I can't even run. I tried to run to exercise and I like hurt my knees'cause I'm just like too heavy now. That's a whole other conversation.

Cozy Snap: 34:57

I know why I got more dude, I've been running more by the way. I'm on five days in a row. I'm not doing great. Oh my gosh. But I'm on five days. My, my Achilles want to die. I know why I get haircuts all the time, man. It was'cause I was letting it fly for like months and I think I, I think I just got the, the picture to go back and then you started making fun of me. So maybe I'll stop getting haircuts again.

Alexander Coccia: 35:16

I miss my little veta on the shelf. Look at him. Look. And he's with a little rabid. That's a Princess Peach rabid. So do you replace him after you place him like a Nick Fury with Sabu? Or like what do you actually do there? Right. I think it's interesting from a piloting perspective, but from a card perspective, I think he has the potential to be absolutely wild. And wild is the key word that I got in, man. I That's on the right descriptor. You did? Yeah. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 35:39

So it's man. I kind of alluded to it at the intro. This is the new Archetype month. We'll talk about the other cars, but there's a lot of cards coming out that create new style of play for Marvel Snap in a season. It typically is gonna be complimented, right? We're gonna see compliments and you know, July was actually pretty good in creating some new stuff with Legion and whatnot, but with this season we're having so many cards that just create a new way to play and, and Loki. It is gonna be fun. Number one, I think like just season pass card fun. Kinda like Hit Monkey. That Hit Monkey was just like a fun card too. Yo, I forgot about Hit Monkey. That card was busted when it came out. It was, it was actually insane checkbox there. Right? Number two chaotic, which is perfect for the card in a new way to play. I, I think, what do I have better camera presence than I do now? Like what? This is like, this was like the best, this was the peak time of our lives, bro. This is before we, we got drained to our core.

Alexander Coccia: 36:30

I know like we're actually, we got some energy in this episode. I might actually go back and wash this one just to feel something.

Cozy Snap: 36:35

Thinks is he's gonna be the worst that he'll be to start this season because everybody's gonna wanna be playing him and you'll be swapping cards and crazy. And then, bro, do you remember that first week of Loki coming out? How, how like people were like, I'm gonna quit Snap. Like it was like, it was, it was the fastest people knew something was broken within like minutes of him coming out.

Alexander Coccia: 36:56

It's actually crazy how much I missed this card and not'cause like, I get it. It was super cringey and like way, way too powerful. But like at least right now as a one drop, he feels playable. A one drop girl I used to love, used to love watching the entire hand just shift. It was such a cool effect, especially when you got like a really nice split on'em. I do miss this Loki. I really wish they, they could bring this card back in some way.

Cozy Snap: 37:20

We're gonna go and fast forward to Lyth bro original Lyth with the Loki season, man. And you know, after the Destroy season, we're gonna get to that. But I'm like, all right, pump the brakes. How excited am I really about this season? What do I actually rate these cards? I wanna challenge us today truly looking at these cards. Oh, seeing are they gonna. Did I? Did we rate them all? No. It'd be well worth it. Give him a one through five star on just the card and then break. Was this the first time we did one through fives? Was this the first time we did stars? I know down why we like them now. We of course have to start out. We'll kind of go in the order of release okay's. It's gonna be first and foremost. Alyth, Alex and Alyth guys is a six five. Six five. That honor reveal destroy all enemy cards. Played here, this turn, including unrevealed,

Alexander Coccia: 38:09

including un. It's so disgusting. Stupid. Like how do we not look at this card and be like, please don't release this,

Cozy Snap: 38:15

because we had Loki as the shield before this. I love how it was so busted that Loki took the bullet for Lyth first, but then like this was just as bad.

Alexander Coccia: 38:26

I remember seeing this card and being like, I actually,'cause I hadn't watched the Loki season yet, which I have, and I actually think that it's a great series. I had no idea what the hell this was. I was like, what is this thing? Is it like a star? Is it a cloud? Is it a dragon? Like I, I had no idea what Alyth actually was, so forgive me, but I didn't know it was a cloud.

Cozy Snap: 38:46

Cards. Now, I think this is a card that is, people are losing their marbles for this man. I think people think this is gonna be nutty, crazy uhoh. And honestly, I don't know if this is gonna be even remotely the most impactful on the month. I think it'll be a good card. I think it'll be super polarizing. Alex? Yep. I think I nailed that. I honestly think I did because I think Mobius was by far one of the worst cards to come out. That was horrible. And then Loki beat that too. I think

Alexander Coccia: 39:13

it, your statement started off with you. I thought you were gonna be like, this card is like a two and then you like, you brought it back. Be like, I think there's too many bangers this month is what you said, which was correct. Yeah, at first, first I was like, Bri,

Cozy Snap: 39:24

I was like, what am about, what am I about to say here? Awesome, man. You're hitting that four 20 on this shot. No, no question about it.

Alexander Coccia: 39:29

Oh yeah, buddy. You know my initial thoughts for that. This card is completely earth shattering. Like I was part of the hype. I'm like, this card's gonna be insane. And even at the six costs, I was excited about it. Right now at five costs.

Cozy Snap: 39:41

Wait, it was a five cost. Life was a five cost, no, it didn't come out as a five cost, but it was a five cost In data

Alexander Coccia: 39:47

minds. We can't get too hyped up about things every once in a while. Be more grounded, make, make deeper analysis of these cards. I think that's, that, that's valuable. Right? It just does something that's so unique in Marvel Snap. It's the specific attack on the unrevealed cards. Cozy for me that like that's, that's the most powerful thing because any on reveal. Yeah. I mean.

Cozy Snap: 40:08

Alex just home knocked outta the

Alexander Coccia: 40:10

park man. Getting a

Cozy Snap: 40:11

homer, man. I love to see it. We'll skip Mobius. Let's go.'cause we ki I think we both are very high. I think he was like the most hyped that we were, we're gonna go to voa, which I think was considered the worst of the month

Alexander Coccia: 40:22

being towards

Cozy Snap: 40:23

destroy. So that just takes us to probably the card that I'm probably most excited to talk about, and that is going to be Rvo. Mobius is close, but Rvo Rvo Rvo, first of all, she is gonna be probably on the best spotlight week in my eyes, especially if you don't have some of the cards. She's with Zbu. I forget the other one. I think Gene Gray. Right? Like just a really cool week I, your graphics. Yeah, bro. And by the way, probe the amount of time I used to spend on ev every, every little thing. Speaking of that, I'm, I'm finally seeing people and I wake up on Gene Gray. I love it, man. I love to see it a bit more. There

Alexander Coccia: 40:53

it is. You accused me of making up that you love Gene Gray. Look at that. Right outta your mouth. You see that? Yeah, I did. Busted. Cool.

Cozy Snap: 40:59

Damn dude, you're right. I liked Jean. I think, I think I was so fascinated with her as a character that I love in the lore that I just accepted that I was gonna love her in the. In the game and she was only like two, I think she was about two months released from this because yeah, she was not the season pass card Phoenix force was, which is so weird. Ongoing effect. Your cards with one or less power cost one less. She does have the minimum one on her side. Alex meant this is the Arche. This is a archetype deck. Building card. Alex. Initial thoughts.

Alexander Coccia: 41:31

My initial thoughts is that like the scope of this card is kind of surprisingly wide. At first glance you're like, ah, it's a three, three that, okay, whatever the effect's strong, but how strong is it really? Then I started like kind of paying attention to all the cards that it would impact and obviously there's like the Ironman, which is still notable'cause Ironman can get, you know, a turn four Ironman turned five Zola. That's pretty damn good. Dare I? Kinda combo's that, what am I talking? Who the hell's doing that I

Cozy Snap: 41:56

was following you for? I was like, alright, here we go. And then the Zola, that, that one really,

Alexander Coccia: 42:03

is that a cook? Are we just not, are we not doing that? Like I, or is that just the worst combo imaginable? Like what kind of power do you have on the board? Good job, Alex. You did it. Good cook there,

Cozy Snap: 42:13

bud. I think you were low on too. I'm actually surprised, but I, you know what though? You progressively got more strict. Like you used to kind of like say everything was gonna be good all the time. And then I remember you started getting like some more bangers in there. You started like. Get some heat in the kitchen,

Alexander Coccia: 42:27

dialing it in. If I say even turn six, you might be able to play some zoo cards and add a lot of power on the board. What is this cook? The hell is that? Talking about iron zola's Zoo. The worst deck ever. Turn four. So turn three R. Turn four, iron man. Turn five Zola. Turn six. Squirrel. Girls, what I'm suggesting, I have a deck with Shauna, by the way. I've kind of penciled out on a turn six kind of zoo. It just keeps getting worse. This is the worst deck of all time. You need to build this thing, dude. You need to build it. But but like there's so many interesting effects that you can pull off with these cards. And it's funny'cause like I kind of realized cozy and tell me if you agree, but some of the most powerful cards in Marvel Snap have low powers. Like what I mean is like their on reveal effects or their effects are so strong that that's compensated the sky's blue, Alex, by reducing their power. They're actual onboard power. So when you reduce the cost, suddenly again, cost reduction being incredible, you are able to pull off some insane combos with incredible power potential. So I'm actually kind of excited about av.

Cozy Snap: 43:30

Yeah. And I feel like she's gonna play a lot like Loki does. Because of what she does. You can play her on four. You could play her off curve a little bit and still get that bonus going into five and six. Like you could get enough snowball. Didn't she go down to a two, like, just like weeks after this or even like a week after?

Alexander Coccia: 43:46

I think she sat at three for a while. I think she lied. Oh, dude. For quite a bit. Think she went to

Cozy Snap: 43:50

two? No. Look at this man. Watch this. Look at this. Look at this. I bet

Alexander Coccia: 43:54

you it was, it was two months. No, no, no. Earlier than two months. I'm gonna say it

Cozy Snap: 43:57

was less than a, it was I'm gonna say it was a month.

Alexander Coccia: 44:00

So the over under is two months. If it's under two months, cozy wins. I win for sure. This is like

Cozy Snap: 44:03

the super smash bed. I'm definitely gonna win this. So she came out in Nov? Yeah. So it was about a month. In 10 days.

Alexander Coccia: 44:10

Damn it.

Cozy Snap: 44:11

Let's see what we had to say about Miss Marvel. Who guys, please pay attention to what she did at launch Miss Marvel season, our new season pass card, Alex. We've got the Marvel movie coming out in theaters. That's probably why the theme of it has come out. Miss Marvel is a forecast five power card with an ongoing ability adjacent locations where your cards have unique costs at plus five power. So four 15.

Alexander Coccia: 44:41

Literally a four 15. It was so insanely easy to get this effect off. Like you could literally play one doom, miss Marvel four, and then play a what, what a doo. What's the big, what's the big whale? The Whale

Cozy Snap: 44:53

Nemo? No,

Alexander Coccia: 44:55

no other whale. Oh. Or go. Oh my gosh. Orca. That's right. The orca. You could play orca on one of the, and like it would go to like 21 power at the time. Like just one card would send one location rocketing to like 21 power.

Cozy Snap: 45:09

Do we have fog machines in our offices, bro? Like what? What's with these? There's like this coat to white over us.

Alexander Coccia: 45:16

I have no idea. It does look at, it does have like this fog effect.

Cozy Snap: 45:19

Alright. Now really simply to break that down, right guys, if you have two, two costs on the left lane, that lane does not get the plus five power. If somebody plays you know, a, a green goblin over there and you already had your self authority does not get plus five power. With that being said, Alex, we've got a lot to break down with her and the potential of her. What

Alexander Coccia: 45:37

are your early thoughts? Honestly, I like the design. I think it's cool. Like the, the idea of having these unique card costs and it's, I like when game, the game makes these macro considerations important. That's exactly what we're talking about with werewolf by night. Like it's really cool when you have to really think. Couple turns ahead as to how you're gonna be placing your cards and that's cool. But my also first impression is this seems like an incredibly restrictive card that might be surprisingly difficult to play.'cause Marvel Snap is never gonna give you an ideal board. State is never gonna give you the ideal hand. And I'm just like, man, I dunno if we're gonna talk stars. But I'm not hot on this card. No way. Okay. What's your, no. Okay. What's your star rating? Don't hot on it before you. You think this is gonna be strong?

Cozy Snap: 46:21

Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you why. Wait, what's your star rating?

Alexander Coccia: 46:24

No, I knew this was coming, but this is So this is, this is the worst. This is the worst. The double down of the

Cozy Snap: 46:30

you. The double down of like you think this is actually gonna be strong. Wait, I want to hear,

Alexander Coccia: 46:35

I gotta

Cozy Snap: 46:35

know. Oh,

Alexander Coccia: 46:36

you're gonna put me on the spot. I'm leaning towards like a two Black Knight. So bad, dude. I'm so wrong, dude. This is by far the biggest miss of my career. This is no question. Nah bro. I can't.

Cozy Snap: 46:51

I can't believe I have some bad ones. I had like Grand Master. We're not gonna watch that one. I gave a five, which was not, I gave'em a five. So, to be fair, that was an awful card too.

Alexander Coccia: 47:00

It okay. Maybe slightly better than Black Knight, but I think Okay, I'll, okay. Two, three range is where I'm at. Look at me, I'm, you're that shocked. Yeah. It's an ongoing card. Right. Look how many ongoing countering effects we have. Yep. It, it requires, it's, it's gonna be maximized in the center. Right. Naturally. It's like the Mr. Fantastic situation. Yep. Having unique costs in each location is hard. Locations don't always let you play. Like I was so scared of like the effect not being able to get pulled off. I was so scared. I was scared that every single game was just gonna be the Savage Lands, double raptors every single time. Yeah. It was just shadow land

Cozy Snap: 47:36

everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Whatever the hell you want. Okay.

Alexander Coccia: 47:38

Right. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm here for it.

Cozy Snap: 47:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. You're not crazy. There's so many things that are like just, hey, to say I look young. My old one, I think you look like a different man than this guy I'm looking at right now. Just say, just say it. Look. Happy

Alexander Coccia: 47:55

e energetic man. I've lost energy. Like I've gotten older and I've just been, I've been chipped away at, man, I'm sorry. I recognize this, this whole episode. Just me laughing, bro. Hey, card. You want to be good, slap like, there's way, so there's like so many red flags here, right?

Cozy Snap: 48:11

Yes. Okay, so here's my, my break. Oh dude, I love this. I was expecting you just to be like, yeah, yeah. You know, I need, here's the great part, right? My thoughts on this is it's the same as the you know, the Deadpool that you want to get up to, A million power, whatever it might be. Let's look at Iron Lad who's a four six. If he scans a rock, he's a four six. Okay. It's like, okay, well that's a bummer. You whiffed on that and it's up to random chance. Miss Marvel is a four 15. If it does work out, if it does work out, and there's a lot of decks where I think she can fit in there. A four 15 is, is stupid out. I mean, that's just stupid value. We can both agree. Three 15 with z.

Alexander Coccia: 48:47

I had to throw in this and I'm like, no. Cozy card sucks. Yeah, right. Four 15, not good enough.

Cozy Snap: 48:52

But let's see what we had to say about inferior huling. Now, I said it a bit as a joke at the time when we were talking about the new cards coming out, but I gave this guy my five star. I gave this guy my favorite card, mainly because of just what I'm interested in, right? He gives me copycat vibes in some ways. Let's break down the synergies, and then me and you we're gonna go through all the six cost cards. And then kind of rank'em from there. So if you guys don't know Emperor Huling here is a six cost, 11 power card, man. Five. Did I say five because it's like something that I like to play or did I at the start of the game? I think I just said I was joking towards the beginning, but I, I clearly gave this copy, the text of a random six cost card. No, but I remember, dude,'cause this is only eight months ago. Once we get to the, the, the tearless part. Bro, I was coping hard. Like you kept saying like, there's so many misses. I'm like, yeah, but there's so many hits. This is, this is gonna be a, this is gonna be, bro. I spent like seven hours on an intro saying I was deadass wrong because of how bad I whiffed this within the game. So there's a lot of opinions out on this guy. And with a big September, as I keep saying, around the corner, you say people are gonna wanna save up their tokens. He comes with Nimrod and Cannonball. Let's start there. Pretty lackluster. Pretty lackluster of spotlight week if I say so myself.

Alexander Coccia: 50:09

Yeah, I mean, cannonballs been, I look so disheveled. This is dad. Alex, like, look at me. Look at this dude. Why'd you have to freeze free here? This is awful. This is, stop it. Play it completely irrelevant. Since the Nerf, I think this is definitely a candidate for getting like the Nerf reverted canonball with the change to Professor X has been a shell of its former self, even with junk being pretty decent with the the release of Keith Bishop. And, you know, we're seeing a lot more synergies with with junk. I'm talking about cannonballs not making those decks. And it was one of those cards that the negative powered Nerf really, really impacted its viability. So I think that actually, did it look like you just came back from survivors? I'd be surprised if while, you know, at the next OTA, which I think is timed for that release week, ask the question. I'm not sure. I gotta keep track of it, but it wouldn't surprise me if. That card got buffed if Cannonball got buffed. As for Nimrod, I'm honestly, I, I like Nimrod. I think he's okay. I've been playing a lot of Phoenix Ball. Don't ask me why. And Nimrod's a big part of that package and he's surprisingly effective.

Cozy Snap: 51:08

He needs a card. He's definitely a card. I think you always gotta look ahead with, with snap. And I feel like if you're all in on Scream, which is the, gonna be a new style of deck where you forced to move your opponent's cards and then that will gain in steal power. If you're going for scream and you don't have Cannonball, this is gonna be your opportunity to get Cannonball. At least say, hit that. So just for you guys, little ffy, I You are wrong. Cannonball. You're gonna go to that Ling as a, as a, you know, constellation prize. There. Not a bad one at that. Let's talk about it. What is your initial star rating here on the whole clean. This.

Alexander Coccia: 51:42

So my initial star rating is gonna be a three stars. Ooh, okay. How bad. I do think that he's like, he's well staed, which really minimizes the downward. That's good. That was good. That was a good pick. My major concern with hulking is that it's like, okay, he, he can be a Dr. Doom, but. Why usually, why don't you just play Dr. Doom or like the, the very sin that literally sums it up like that, that was,

Cozy Snap: 52:02

that was the best take you could have had on that.'cause I was so convinced and I still think he's not bad. What, what is he now, what's your start writing on him like now?

Alexander Coccia: 52:10

Dude, I haven't played him for Huley in a while. I think he snuck into a couple fun decks, but like, he got one power. Yeah. He's still

Cozy Snap: 52:16

not that good. He, he made it into Hella for a little bit. I remember that. Cannonball is our new card. This week. And before we jump into him, we have our spotlights this week in what was the last week of the spotlights. And then they swapped them and some people still got her, but if you didn't update, I don't know. But it's Miss Marvel and it is Kitty Pride alongside Cannonball. What are your impressions of the spotlight week before we jump into the car?

Alexander Coccia: 52:40

I think that like right off, right off the bat, like Miss Marble and Kitty Pride are two cards you definitely want in your collection. Kitty Pride has proven to be

Cozy Snap: 52:46

a, it only took a couple months. S like,

Alexander Coccia: 52:48

yeah, I figured it out eventually. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 52:50

And Canonball guys, if you don't know, he's a five cost card, he's eight power. Alongside it on Reveal, you're gonna move the highest powered enemy card away. Now, if any of those locations are full, or if Professor X is locked it down, you guys know the drill, it's gonna destroy that card. And replace it with a rock in that exact location. And definitely unique ability. We, we only see a couple of move cards and only see a couple of targeted destroyed cards at that as well. So pretty interesting. Got a couple mechanics that we seen, but we haven't seen just like this. And without going into synergies or anything, hit me with your initial star rating.

Alexander Coccia: 53:27

You know what, I am a little hesitant on Cannonball. I'm coming in at a two star rating. I know it's low. But like I have some optimism, optimism around, I think I'm joined you, bro, but I just, I'm not as sold on it as others might be.

Cozy Snap: 53:39

Wow, man. Two, two star. That's exactly what I gave it to. Yeah, I gave it a two stars. Well, damn it, we missed together, man. You, we went down the ship together. You had it cozy. You had it, man. You were holding strong. I've ever seen in my life. I, like, I, I, I have a lot of whales and sharks around the house with my newborn, that's like his, his theme and his, and his nursery. Jeff the shark is going to be our first card to talk about here and look at this guy. He is a two three, Alex. And his ability is you can move this once. So you got like a night crawling. Nothing, Alex, nothing, not the infinity gauntlet. Now Professor X apparently can stop you from moving or playing this to any location. Now I don't know how that's gonna work with Professor X, which is the first one I wanted to bring up. What do you think about this card? Huh?

Alexander Coccia: 54:31

I am really interested in this card. First of all, I think this is really good. It's a pretty cool card. But like, it kind of breaks the rules in a very interesting way. And I wonder if rules are meant to be broken in that way in a card game sometimes. Like Pro X, Jeff. Hmm. Like who actually takes precedent there, right? Like, it's interesting. It's, it's a question of rules and I don't have an answer for you.

Cozy Snap: 54:52

So I like that you brought that up. That was gonna be my statement behind it. I, I, I think that you have these rules and you have to stick by them. This is the only time they can do this if it's for one card. Okay. You can expect the Jeff coming maybe kind of thing. I was right or whatever, but and I kind of like that, right? I mean, professor X is gonna, is gonna lose some value. Not now, but in a few months. Like when this is more, no, no, cozy, he was gonna be used with him and make it even, make it even worse.

Alexander Coccia: 55:18

This is the preview. We didn't have like any developer information about like, like, oh, you could play Jeff through Sandman. You could play Jeff through the Professor X. Like, we didn't know any of that at the time.

Cozy Snap: 55:29

Kang Kang the con. What did we say about Kang? What do you think we say?

Alexander Coccia: 55:35

I think I said I was scared of it because it seems like an incredibly powerful effect. He just

Cozy Snap: 55:40

came out. I've only have a handful of games under my belt. I've seen some others play with them. Kind of initial impressions before we talk about any specifics. Alex, one through 10, like before anything.

Alexander Coccia: 55:51

My initial impression is that he's a solid like eight. Okay. Maybe an eight, maybe a nine closer. Like he's on the upper side. He's not like a 10. I think that like dark, hot zbu. Silver, dark cock. Good old 10, you know, eight outta 10 Kang, the conqueror known for being one of the most popular cards or Marvel Snap course in the same conversation of OG Zbu and Dark Hawk. Right in there, right up there. Probably approaching nine 10. He's in in that range. In terms of like the power overall? No, I said they were approaching nine 10, his capabilities to impact the game, but that's not what gives me reservations about him. It's not his actual impact as a card. It's everything else along the sides that kind of, you know, trips me up a little bit. Cozy. What do you give him? Yeah, I

Cozy Snap: 56:35

was

Alexander Coccia: 56:35

gonna say an eight for now. Now got get wrecked cozy. You're right there with me, bud. You're going to embarrass

Cozy Snap: 56:41

me in front of our audience. Get wrecked. Oh yeah, dude, you're right. I guess we were just so, we were just so hyped. On him being a big bad, as if you don't know King is going to be plate and he reverses everything that just happened. That includes snaps. Got an eight, bro. An eight. This was such a bad card. It's such, it is a bad card, bro.

Alexander Coccia: 57:00

At least I like believed in it and took it to a tournament.

Cozy Snap: 57:03

Well guys, we had way too many to, to even go through and if you guys want to return to that, I'll bring it back. Is next week the new season? Yeah, it's the brand new, new season. Yeah, next week.

Alexander Coccia: 57:14

I don't, I don't know, man. Like, no. Next week is not the, the brand new season. We still have one card, don't we? Yeah, we have,

Cozy Snap: 57:23

we have one card. If you guys wanted to see us return with some more, we, we pulled up those'cause we knew initially those were some fun ones. I thought that was fun to go back, react to. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it too. Lot of laughing. Lot of good times, man. And we got more ahead coming up here in the Snapchat.

Alexander Coccia: 57:39

Cozy. This past week was PAX East, one of my absolute favorite events of the year. I was in Boston. I had a chance to meet a number of you wonderful people, and I appreciated so much, but cozy. I was given a very special gift, a very special gift that I want to bring up because it's not only a gift for me. But it was a gift for you. Oh. And it was from turn six, BU longtime supporter of the content. And they came to me at PAX and they said, Alex, I want to give you something that's distinctly Massachusetts distinctly something that I know Cozy Iss gonna love. So he brought me this.

Cozy Snap: 58:17

Oh, what a. What a man turn six Sabu. Man, you've never looked more sexy than your entire life. For those that are listening, Alex has put on not only just a camouflage hat, but one bearing the greatest logo in the world, the New England Patriots. You look great.

Alexander Coccia: 58:35

Yeah, I know as a Bills fan wearing the New England Patriots hat, but I, you know, this is, I'm paying homage to your interest in sports. I know all about your time. You know Texas qb and was it Texas a and m? I'm trying to remember which one.

Cozy Snap: 58:48

I definitely didn't play at Texas a and m. That would make me a five star athlete in college.

Alexander Coccia: 58:54

You played high school ball? I

Cozy Snap: 58:55

played high school

Alexander Coccia: 58:55

ball.

Cozy Snap: 58:55

I did

Alexander Coccia: 58:56

not play college ball. But you love Texas a and m, Texas Tech, Texas. Texas. There's multiple Texas universities. How many universities do you in Texas, bro. Texas

Cozy Snap: 59:03

is bigger. Go look at the size of the true size of Texas. It like swallows up Europe like two times over.

Alexander Coccia: 59:10

So as I said that statement, I realized how dumb it sounded. I know Texas is massive,

Cozy Snap: 59:14

massive.

Alexander Coccia: 59:15

Like not only from a population standpoint, from like an actual geographic standpoint. It's like a huge piece of land. Yeah. So huge, huge, huge. Yeah. So anyways,

Cozy Snap: 59:24

but you look like a blend of Texas and Massachusetts with that hat. You got a little camo, little Southern, and then you got the the Patriots. I love it.

Alexander Coccia: 59:32

Yeah. One of these days we'll have to go to a Patriots game. Somewhere, somewhere. I don't know these days. Maybe I gotta fly somewhere to, to make it happen. But it would be cool to see an NFL game with you because I've only ever been to two. Okay. Both of them were Bills games. One of them, it was like negative 19 out. It was so bad. Bad, so bad. It was awful. And the worst part about it is like, we took like a, that kinda like a party bus into Buffalo. And what they do is they like, they bust you there and then they just drop you off in a parking lot. Oh yeah. And you're just like, and it's like. 11:00 AM Right. And you're waiting for like a three o'clock or four 30 game and you're just freezing outside and there's like nowhere you can go to hide. Like you're literally in a parking lot and like the only way you can stay warm is by in consuming copious amounts of alcohol. That's the only way. And like the Buffalo Bills fans to stay warm, they like, they get on their cars and they power bomb each other through tables and jump through tables and like.

Cozy Snap: 1:00:25

I'm surprised you remember anything going to a Bills game. Yeah, that's shocking that from what I've seen. I've only heard of the legends and the stories, but they, they remain that'cause no one remembers what, what happened?

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:36

I, I saw this one video. So they called themselves the Bills mafia and they put themselves to the table. A guy brought his like, newborn baby, it was like two weeks old and he held them up and everyone was going crazy and they built like a little baby table and they put the baby through the, through the table. It was just, you know, there's something, I will tell you this, okay, I'll tell you this. I, I wanna go to a downfall game with you a hundred percent, but what I will say is like when I go to Toronto, meet leaves games, right? It's just a whole bunch of suits. Like the only time you get to actually get with the fans is in like the nosebleed section. You gotta get like the worst seats you get at a leaf game the better the seats are.'cause you're with actual fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone else has a bunch of suits. After a first period, they're gone doing business talks. The arena looks empty. When I was at, when you're at a Bills game. It's like, like John, the mechanic's there and he's going crazy and his wife's there, she's half in the bag and then like the whole town, it's like, it's like everyone's there. That's how like the whole city's there going crazy and I love it. Everyone's a fan. Every single seat is a Jersey fan going crazy. I love it. I can't tell you how much I love

Cozy Snap: 1:01:40

it. Yeah. I went to I've been to a fair amount of Super Bowls. It's the same thing. Super Bowls are so corporate that like. You know, you, you barely get, and then it's always the underdog team that everybody loves.'cause like no one wants, you know, the pagers to win for the fifth time. Right. Even though we did. But yeah, no, it's, it's the same, same vibes of, of the Super Bowl.

Alexander Coccia: 1:01:57

Yeah. But long story short though, I gotta say that it was, it Pax was wonderful. Absolutely love Penny Arcade Expo. And hoping to go to the Seattle one as well. Make it back to Boston next year. And who knows? I have some fun ideas for perhaps what future iterations of my adventures at PAX could look like. And hope to see you and everyone else there. And cozy, I miss you not being able to play Commander with you, buddy. That the, the year that we got to go to PACS together and actually spend time, that was one of my absolute favorite trips. Favorite. Weekend of my entire life and getting to see you for the first time. It was, that was special. I hope that we can recreate that at some point.

Cozy Snap: 1:02:30

Yeah, man. Absolutely. I yeah, hopefully I'll make it a out to Pax East next year and we'll have to see. I, it's funny enough, like I like east better than West. Is that a east is bigger. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:02:41

So they're different. So PACS East is cool because like, it's like one massive stadium essentially. It's the convention center in Boston and it's cool'cause everything's in one spot and you could just like live there for the entire day. PACS Prime is cool as well because it's two separate convention centers, but they're close to each other, so they're like a five, six minute walk from one another. And in the middle of that walk they usually shut down a street where it's just like food trucks and stuff. Yeah. So like you're walking. It's, it's just, it's like packs except it's two physical locations. What I will tell you though is that the new convention center in Seattle, when I tell you it's one of the most beautiful buildings I've ever seen in my life, like I can't explain to you how beautiful it is. Like, it, it's like an escalator going up a skyscraper with like an all glass. You get to see the entire building. They even have at the very top, there's like ledges you can sit on and overlook the entire city at night, which I did. It was like 1230 at night. I just watched like a, a panel and I was just sitting there and just like. Looking at the cars, driving by. It was just, it was just beautiful, dude. It's, they're both great. They're both great for different reasons. And if I just got dragged out to both, I guess

Cozy Snap: 1:03:45

I know I'll have to go and check it out. Speaking of checking out, did you check out prodigy this week?

Alexander Coccia: 1:03:50

I did. I did, man, I did. So Prodigy came out this week and so cozy, you and I were like pretty lukewarm on this card. We both came in at two stars. You actually had 2.5, and then you said, you know what, Alex? We we're bringing it down. We're bring it out too and cozy. I gotta tell you, you made the right choice. What I will say is that in terms of statistics, post infinite only, we're looking at a 48% win rate at a 14 pop, 14% popular negative cuber. Unfortunately, for Prodigy, this card did not land well. It has not landed well. When I look across all the decks. The decks are very lackluster. There's an ongoing shell that's running a 55% win rate, but that is literally a worse version of spectrum Thanos than just like not running prodigy, like adding prodigy to that deck actively makes it worse. That's pretty much the case. With every single deck I look at, there's a scream version running a 53% win rate. It makes scream worse. It has not found its own archetype, cerebral form, and as a result. Dude, I was just gonna say, ironically in my D of the week video, I'm like, this is what I've been playing. I had Esme, I had Prodigy. I was playing C four and actually I act, I legit had some fun. Now Cerebral has its frustrations obviously.'cause they're like, oh look, it's Monster Island sick. Thank you game. You know what I mean? Or locations that give plus one power or whatever they're called. It's kind of frustrating. But I actually like C four the best I brought. I'm so surprised

Cozy Snap: 1:05:12

you brought that up. Yeah, I think those his best home for sure. Like that's, or, or at least it feels like. Because again, remember, like he's, he was doing two things at once. So you get in the C four power and then also you could get, you know, a bunch of good things going off with that. There's plenty of fours that you want to go with it. So I think naturally, again, we talk about it all the time, but any card that could do, you know, offense and defense kind of thing, you know, is gonna work out best. Ultimately, you know, I've said this, I think, I think that he does have,'cause I, I know I was, it may have gave him a two, but I said at three, five, I liked the idea. Of him just being able to get an effect at times. And I think it came off easier to get him to go on cards that I designated for. I'll give it that for sure. But it still came a little bit clunky. Overall in design, I think there's actually people that really liked the card. I. I think that was a preference thing more than anything, and willing to go through some of the cons that did come with him. I think the thing I will say is when you do pull for cards and snap packs now in the next couple weeks, he's less of a bad hit. You know, at least you could do some stuff with him.

Alexander Coccia: 1:06:13

Yeah. He's not great. What I will say though is like in my experience on C four specifically. Obviously I tried to prioritize hitting cerebral with it. Now that cerebral is a two cause get it on curve. You can set up the board a little better to hit cerebral more effectively. But I legit won multiple games, playing claw on five into a location, and then doing Cerebro prodigy and then recopying the claw and projecting the power. So now you're taking this cerebral buff, applying it to the prodigy, and you're projecting the claw power. Honestly, I did that multiple times. I was like, that's filthy. That's so good. Right? It's a filtered one. And like, so there's moments like that where you're like, okay, alright, that's, that's pretty solid, right? And in those decks, it basically made mystique not necessary. And it's great because you're copying the cerebral, but you have the opportunity to do things with like claw and stuff. So Prodigy, I feel like it's suffered from what the original version of Captain Carter did. A lot of emphasis on positioning and not enough of a payoff for that. Ironically, you know, we talked about Miss Marvel on, on your side there and like think about what modern Miss Marvel is and how much you have to like jump through hoops to get an effect to work. Project doesn't feel quite like that, but at the same time you're committing a lot of energy resources and just like macro consideration to get products to do the things you want it to do. It just doesn't always feel worth it. You know what I mean? And I think that's what's holding the car back and the win rate certainly shows that.

Cozy Snap: 1:07:36

Yeah, it's definitely, you know, what has written all over it as we say this, about cards that we predict that's gonna happen. Flavor of the week kind of thing. Yeah. Give it like three weeks. People aren't gonna be playing them. That like, that's just the, the truth.

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:49

Three weeks after these weekend missions are done, like I'm not playing this card, I'm only playing C four'cause I get to do the weekend mission with Esme and Prodigy at the same time, I will say though I know this is irrelevant not necessarily irrelevant, but now that I'm playing the cards together, like Surge is so far ahead of what Prodigy, like, it's not even close and I'm starting to really tur, like I'm enjoying Esme. Like, I think that Esme, like, as I've been playing more, I'm like, you know what, this card first impressions, it didn't feel as good, but like. Damn. I think I'm coming around and really like it. It makes proje look like garbage. Like Esme is way better than proje, I'll tell you that right now. But I've kind of been impressed.

Cozy Snap: 1:08:26

Yeah, no, I agree. I think we're actually gonna nail it. This, this month in our di I mean, we said surge was five. I think you gave her 4.5, right? Or maybe you gave her five, you ranked her two. But her and Esme are gonna be one and two, no question. And then everything else. What did we give three? Did we say prodigy?

Alexander Coccia: 1:08:43

If you want me to go, I have to like scroll the way down here. I think Zo,

Cozy Snap: 1:08:46

I think I gave Zo and then proud of you. I feel like,

Alexander Coccia: 1:08:48

so I have the rankings here. So Alex's rankings, we we're jumping ahead a little bit, but Alex's rankings were Esme Surge. Prodigy, Zorn and Elixir. Cozy went surge. Esme Zorn, prodigy Elixir. I like Cozy is better, but still I do, I do think that, I do think that Esme is, is looking good. I think your ranking is looking stronger right now, but but I think Esme is looking good and you know what else is looking good, cozy. The cards that you must own in Marvel Snap, because this is a discussion that we have from time to time where realistically, guys, you got the snap packs now you got series four snap packs, you got series three snap packs, you got all these types of snap packs. What are the cards that you should be targeting? What are the ones you absolutely have to have in your collection? We're not just talking about the new ones. Ironically, in my list there's a lot of series five bangers. I think the series five cards are, they've been propping up the good cards a little bit, but it doesn't mean there's not good cards in series four and three as well. Cozy, I'll let you start us off here. What's a must have card in your opinion?

Cozy Snap: 1:09:50

Naturally, man, I, I'm gonna say Thanos, but I want to say that with a bit of precaution here because we've gone pretty long time now without OTAs, without changes, and there's been one deck to rule them all. It's been a lot of Thanos. We've seen a lot of Thanos. We're gonna continue to, and so naturally since this game has come out, we've had the waves of Thao, Thanos. I, I'm telling you right now, in eight months, he is gonna be good again. But I think he, you are, it's kinda like a stalk. You're hitting him on the, the, the kinda the downturn of. Where his meta relevance is. So the good news is it's a card everyone should own because it's gonna come back. It's a stock that always builds itself back up and you can get a, you know, a little time with it now. But yeah, this card is proven no matter what, to survive and thrive in snap. No matter what meta we're at, new cards come along. They continue to add to him. He's so unique in nature. I think Dan is just still one of the best.

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:41

I love this call out because it really does speak to what the spirit of this conversation is. It's not necessarily about like what's meta now. Things are meta things shift, but Thanos is eternal. Thanos will always come back. It is the most cyclical card in Marvel Snap. Yeah. If you think Thanos is gone, it comes back. We have done, we have had Thanos funeral so many times where we're like, they did it. They killed Dan. We're never playing it again. And then sure enough, it's like one of the best cards in the game again. And like it's often by association, right? Like things like. Obviously Mockingbird was a huge infusion of power for Thanos and then you had Strange Supreme, but not just that like actually even Strange Supreme as good as it as it is, you're seeing like ongoing spectrum versions of Thanos doing so good with the reworks to some of the stones and stuff, right? And so obviously start Thanos starting in the hand. It's a one of the original big bats, right? This is a card that if you don't have in your collection and you get the opportunity to get it. You absolutely should because it is like an eternal presence in the meta game, an eternal presence in Marvel Snap. It's just a fantastic heart. And I, I will say that one of the ones I wanna speak about as well is high evolutionary, which has a similar feel to this. And high evolutionary is currently. Very meta, especially within conjunction with man thing and abomination man thing, doing very well against Thanos stacks and abomination often being free because of the amount of punishment you're able to do to the amount of Thanos we're seeing out there. But high Evo it's a big bad. What the beautiful thing about Hi Evo is if you're relatively low low collection level, you have access to all these cards that feel like they do nothing. You're like, why would I play Misty Night? Why Cyclops sucks so bad? Why would I ever play Cyclops? But when you get high Evo, suddenly those cards start to come alive. Like they, it really is a big infusion of power for low collection level players. Now, classic high Evo, in the case of like running the classic Hulk and Shocker and all that stuff, it's not quite where it needs to be. And I think that like WASP and specifically shocker is in. Probably in a position where it could get OTA buff, like I think high Evos traditional package could use a buff.'cause right now, high evos being played almost exclusively on the toxic side, where you just want a free abomination basically. And that's fine'cause you're seeing it in like the Ajax style decks. But again, this is a big bad card. It's likely gonna say it series V for the foreseeable future, but most importantly it unlocks a whole new way to play Snap. And it's really. Advantageous for low collection level players

Cozy Snap: 1:13:07

and invisible woman's coming out the Unitarian card, that's only gonna boost it, right. So, you know, it's gonna have a good future ahead of it too. So that's definitely a reason that I would highlight it. Looking at, we're going from six to four, we're gonna go down to three. Alex, this has been a card you've been high up on forever. We've brought them up forever. I think we were like original champions for this card, if you will, and, and talked about it before it was popular to do so. Red Guardian, I think Red Guardian. I've seen a lot of takes on him. Some people don't like him and think he's way too he's all over way too much in the meta. I would think I, this is the perfect tech card and I still think it is, and I don't think they adjust him. I think what he does well is, is been like he's always gonna scale good because you're always gonna have cars with low power to hit. And, and we, you know, I think you said it on when we were looking back, you're like, cars with low power have great abilities. Well, that's always gonna be a thing, right? So you've got that going for it. It feels great and I it compared to something like Shung Q I'm, I'm more in favor for Red Guardian style of play.

Alexander Coccia: 1:14:05

I do like Red Guardian a lot. It's running a 54% window right now at 23% of the matter. This is probably amongst the highest. Red Guardian's been Red Guardian started to really surge when. The bullseye shells started coming out because then you had like the mo the the, the Mobius is sitting there. You had the bullseye sitting there and people were often playing them on individual lanes. I think Red Guardian is a very effective card. And the reason why you hate is'cause it's effective, but it's also a fair card because there's a chance that like, you can't target the card you want because of its condition. So I, I really do like Red Guardian and perhaps the reason why we're seeing such an influx of Red Guardian. It's not Red Guardian's fault, he's the release valve for what's popular, right? And so there's gonna be times, like right now Moby and Moby is getting really popular because as MA's discounting cards and you're seeing lots of stuff like that. And so, you know, and movies is making a comeback. It'll disappear and there's a chance that Red Guardian disappears now. But Red Guardian feels like a better catchall.

Cozy Snap: 1:14:59

It

Alexander Coccia: 1:14:59

catchalls. Yeah. And for that reason. For that reason, yeah. It's a must have in your collection.'cause if you don't have Moby and Moby or if you don't have other tech pieces, that might be the flavor of the weak. This guy seems like you could put'em in almost any deck.

Cozy Snap: 1:15:10

Yeah. Just to spin two in a row here.'cause I think they, the term catchalls a really good term when it comes to cars that you should own because you can put them in so many different decks and one that has been forgotten for, for I don't know why we've, we've, you know. You're gonna continue to say that you missed the effective old, and, and I totally get that, but copycat is that exact same thing, right? The catchall, the catchall card that has great stats, great value, and can work across the board. This is one of those Snap Pack polls that you feel incredible about because you know it's gonna be able to fit in what you wanna play.

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:44

You know what's funny is I, I was kind of, you're right, I do miss the original copycat, but I do understand why they had to make the change. And honestly, being in a position where, you know, what's at the bottom of their deck is still helpful and I. It's, you know, if it stays at the bottom of their deck, they don't usually draw it. Like what's the matter if it's muted? Right. But what I will say is like, it wasn't until I got like a really nice split, I got like a gold split on copycat. I was excited about, I just started throwing it in decks. I like looking at the card and I had the pen art studio variant as well. Like it, I don't know if this happens to you, but sometimes you just have a card that's so beautiful, you're like, I just wanna play. Oh yeah, I wanna look at this card. So I was doing that with Copycat Luna Snow. I got a Gods split on too. I gotta show you that variant later please. But. I was playing copycat and I was like, damn, this card is just so good. It's just so good. It's often a snap condition where like you steal their Ironman, who's really popular right now, and you snap and they're like, but why? There's nothing on the board that shows I have your, I have your Ironman as a copycat. Like copycat is this very low key. Oh, I know you're shun cheese at the bottom of the deck. And I have strange supreme sitting here with a smile on his face. You know what I mean? And I know you're not playing Shadow King because who's the hell is doing? Shadow King does get, gets no respect if Marvel Snap for some reason. So Copycat is this very sneaky high cube rate card that I mean, it's cr it's got a 53% win rate for a reason. Like it's crushing it. And I like that. Call it a lot. Similarly, I'll say, if you wanna go down, so copycat, we're talking about a lot of Series five cards. Let's talk about a series three card, cozy, okay? Get, get some of the, you know, the people with series three. A little more excited juggernaut. Is currently absolutely smashing it in the meta juggernaut is an 11% meta card right now running a 52 to 53% win rate. Juggernaut is a low key cube Steeler on turn six. It is so unbelievably good and you often look at it in shells and figure he could probably cut juggernaut. What's he doing? He's winning games. Is what Juggernauts doing? He's a must own card at a series three. You'll love to see it.

Cozy Snap: 1:17:38

Yeah, for sure. I think this is like. A card that if we would've ever in copycat too, but like as like a competitive snap goes, it's one of those like, what just happened was not expecting that. And catchall card that can work across the board juggernaut. It's so funny how like underutilized this card was for so long and then it became more popular, more popular. Now obviously it's, it is what it is today, but yeah, I like the call out man. I like the s the series three, the pool three as we talked about before. Rip, rip Pools. Good call, man. Any other pool theories you have?

Alexander Coccia: 1:18:11

Pool three. I mean, I think that silver Surfer, obviously. Yeah. Let's be honest. Silver Surfer is huge, huge, huge, huge. I, I tend to assume that most people are nearing or at. Pool three complete. We did it. Pool three. Look at that. At series three complete. But yeah, silver Surfer's amazing. And if you don't have Silver Surfer and you get the opportunity to get it, you absolutely should. And the reason for this is because you can make a Silver Surfer deck so rapidly with so many different variations, with so many other inexpensive cards. Like you could literally make a s. Pool Three silver surfer deck. And it's good. Like, it's not great, but it's gonna be good. There's so many ways you can cook silver surfer so many options to three costs. And if you're new to it, usually what I do is you can start as simple as like Nova Killmonger, which is like, this is again trying to be low collection. If we're not running Nova Killmonger anymore really, but in this current medic against, then you can do a Nova Killmonger, Ron Sarah, who's another must have at series three. Sarah's another absolute beauty, right? And then you do two, two drops. Whoever you want. Two, two drops and then you fill the threes out with whatever you think you need. You're seeing a lot of ongoing in your meta. Pick a pick a rogue, right? You actually pulled gladiator out of a snap pack. Throw'em in there, right? Like you. It's so great how you can make it, but usually the formula is a Nova Killmonger Sarah Silver Surfer, forged brewed. Then fill it from there. Usually another two drop and just fill, like if you have a Jeff or whatever, whatever you wanna fill with you can do that. But yeah, silver Surfer builds very, very good. And if we're talking about cards that we really want to have in our collections that like are relatively inexpensive to build around, I. I think something needs to be said about scream at series five. It utilizes a lot of relatively inexpensive cards. Yes, some flavors of it do, do have like some other cards, but like you can run Arrow, you can run Magnetos in it. Polaris is a series three card Spider-Man. Like there's tons of options here, kingpin variations of it. And it's one of the best cards in the game. It's running a 54% win rate, despite the fact it's only running a 6% metas share because it's been nerfed so frequently. Last little bit, so much. Yeah, but scream's definitely a keeper.

Cozy Snap: 1:20:10

Yeah, for sure. I think this is just such a good, like we talk about those anchor cards, this is like one of those anchor cards that quite literally make the entire archetype and, and you're getting kind of a high evo effect to it, right? You're getting this card that's just gonna make so many cards around it. Then playable, you have a media collection. It's like if this was a physical card game, this would be such a sick card to pull because you'd be able to like go and dust off some stuff that you haven't been able to play with. Yeah, good pick.

Alexander Coccia: 1:20:35

There's a couple others I just wanna highlight quickly here. And I think that, like Ajax for instance, is one that I think a lot of people feel like they, they don't need to add it to their collection and they often kind of punt on getting Ajax, like people don't wanna spend tokens on it, they don't wanna like commit to getting Ajax. But this is a card that runs a 54% win rate and it's very often at near the top of the meta. And it's actually a good play against Thanos because of your ability to blanket impact. All the stones in the board state with something like a, you know, hazmat or a man thing, or even a Diamondback from that perspective. So Ajax is one too. And if you wanna talk about series four. Kind of the new sexy flavor. But this one here is tricky because of the impact on an OTA. But Gorgan as of right now, has proven to be a pretty good tech piece too. Running a 53% win rate because of the prevalence of hand generation and specifically something like a Thanos. So

Cozy Snap: 1:21:28

like it,

Alexander Coccia: 1:21:29

yeah, and when also I like cozy. I love myself, the Snapchat mailbag. We got a number of questions here, cozy and I'm actually excited for this'cause believe it or not, we have a few like Marvel Snap que usually we're like right off the rails, right? Right away. The first question is asking Cozy about like, whose favorite salon is or like what, what product uses and hair and stuff like that. Actually you haven't shaved a bit. You're a little more disheveled than usual. I think it's the second time I've said the word disheveled on this, this podcast

Cozy Snap: 1:21:55

actually really? Well, I, I, I shaved like yesterday. Actually, I

Alexander Coccia: 1:21:58

You shaved yesterday. That's fake dude. Look. This clean line, there's no way you shaved that. Look at

Cozy Snap: 1:22:01

this

Alexander Coccia: 1:22:01

clean line right

Cozy Snap: 1:22:02

here.

Alexander Coccia: 1:22:02

Oh, when you said I, okay, so you like, you shaved, but you didn't completely d like you didn't get rid of all the hair. Yeah, I did. Like you just trimmed.

Cozy Snap: 1:22:11

Yeah. I took this down to a 5.5 right here. It was at like a, at least a nine man.

Alexander Coccia: 1:22:15

If that's your five o'clock shadow that is No, no,

Cozy Snap: 1:22:18

no, no. 5.5 on the, on my razor. Five o'clock. No, dude, I actually thought about the other day completely just going, going bald under here. But I haven't done that in like five years, man. The last time I did that was for a subhan. I did. Which speaks for itself'cause I don't stream that I shaved everything but my mustache. I might bring that back. Old Ted lasso.

Alexander Coccia: 1:22:36

I have a picture of me somewhere where I was shaving. I like, was really like, I had a huge beard and I did multiple, like stages of beard. Like every day I shaved a little bit of it and my wife hated it so much. She's like, and eventually I ended up with a huge like mustache, right? She's like, no, I need, she's like, you,

Cozy Snap: 1:22:54

I need whatever Alex was, what card we were talking about on my side that, that you looked fresh outta survivor. Like you, you looked like you came off the island like just a couple, couple days ago, bro. That was, that was the, that's the Alex I wanted in my life more.

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:07

Buddy. You know what, I'm, I'm always here for you. Cozy. Anytime you want to come cuddle, come over to Canada. I'll give you a nice bear hug. But let's go, let's get into a question here from Commander Ding Dung. 2, 2, 3. Some of these names make me laugh sometimes I'm like, I don't know. I, I just need to come up with like a re very creative name instead of just using my full legal name. That's, it's too late. That's a whole other conversation. Mailbag. We should have variants assigned by the artists as the ultimate prize for artist specific albums. Boom.

Cozy Snap: 1:23:36

Cody, that's a great idea. That's a great idea. Dude. That's a 10 outta 10 idea. Instead of, you know the 20th emote you're not gonna use or whatever variant that you already have good ones on. Do not like that. I wish they would do that. And they already collaborate with them to make those season videos, so that would be something easy to do as well. The

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:52

only signature card we have is that, that Nick Fury one, right? Yes. It would be really cool though, if you finish an album for a for like a creator or an artist, if you unlock their signature on all their cards, wouldn't that be so cool? That'd be so safe. And you could actually like toggle it in like the in the custom card, like creator, like the, the, the signature. And it can be different colors. That would be such a nice package. Oh, that'd be, yeah. That would definitely be, and pay a lot of respect to the artist too, of respect. Tribute. Yeah. Next question comes from Tom Brennan and Res. My friend and I were discussing how useless and unengaging the alliance system is with the loss of Spotlight variance. Do you think that they could find a way to incorporate weekly curated variants into the Alliance rewards? It would bring back spotlight variants and make alliances more engaging?

Cozy Snap: 1:24:40

Yeah. I think they could also do tokens. I think that they like, not a ton, but enough. To get people invested as a, as a team to, to get, you know, card acquisition more for everybody. You know, five things that will never happen, but it'd be cool if they did that.

Alexander Coccia: 1:24:55

I know that they, like originally when they were talking about alliances, they were like, you know what alliances they are they're work in progress. This is kind of like the first story, this wave one bro. They were so on that and then they haven't done anything with it. Right. Unfortunately, no. To

Cozy Snap: 1:25:06

be real. Yeah. They get, they deserve more harping on that'cause it. That's like stereotypical, like, we're gonna do this, or like, I mean, they said we're on wave one of the PC build. Nothing happened to that, you know, that was the, you know, what they, what they stuck with. So, yeah, it, unfortunately, I think alliances took a, a dip and they I don't know if they're gonna come to the forefront anytime soon.

Alexander Coccia: 1:25:27

I'm hoping that with the, the release of snap packs, we have like some development time going towards like, I don't know, a new board for the game or something. China got two.

Cozy Snap: 1:25:37

China Snap got two new boards, like instantly before we can. It's just, why don't they

Alexander Coccia: 1:25:42

just give'em to us? Like why don't understand, like it's a different, it's a different development team.

Cozy Snap: 1:25:46

Clearly. There's just different yeah. I mean, I don't know. We obviously don't

Alexander Coccia: 1:25:50

have an answer for that. But we might have an answer for fam fam who says, I wanted to plug cable as a great counter to surge. Many times I played cable on my turn and the opponent played surge and I got the reduced card and profited

Cozy Snap: 1:26:05

that is thinking outside the box. I like it. That's a good one.

Alexander Coccia: 1:26:08

I do like that one a lot. Cable's a card that. I remember it got buffed to two three and everyone was so pissed about it. And then it was being played a lot in mill and then it just kind of fell off and it, it was actually being played a lot in Loki'cause it was hand generation. Remember it was being played in Loki because you'd get a card and then you'd swap it out to with your Loki on turn three. Oh, Loki on turn three maybe back in the day. Oh man. This is Brent that today's is a walk down memory lane as Captain Crump has a statement. I don't care about Mors deck slots. I do wish I could rearrange my decks. I wish Mobile had the same deck layout that PC players have. I hate scrolling all the way to the end of the list to find my favorite decks. So Captain Crump hates your call out for for more deck slots, but thinks you should be rearrange'em. And I have to say the amount of people that said, I don't care about deck slots, I. Was shocking. It was actually a very frequent comment, really on our side, which was mind blowing to me. Like, I, I don't understand if we have more deck slots, how is that a bad thing? But people were like, no screw deck slots. I was like, what?

Cozy Snap: 1:27:04

Dude? It is such an easy thing to implement, but yep. It's shocking. I'm, I'm pretty shocked by that.

Alexander Coccia: 1:27:09

Yeah. It actually was legitimately surprising. Just like this question from cyber suit and this actually got a chuckle outta me and cozy, you would, you'll appreciate this too as well. This is to me. Alex, you don't have to watch inception. You haven't lived until you've watched Inception. Your life is but a frail shadow of what it could be. After consuming the Magnum opus of modern media for the nearly limitless joy you bring me, you fail to allow yourself to experience the ultimate joy of watching Inception. Forgive him cozy for he knows not what he does.

Cozy Snap: 1:27:48

That is a great spokesperson. I almost watched it again last night actually, but then I decided on Wolf of Wall Street instead. Have you seen that?

Alexander Coccia: 1:27:56

Yeah. I like Wolf of Wall Street a lot. I use I buddy. One of my favorite comments in while I'm streaming is when people are like, Alex, retreat, retreat. I'm like. I'm not leaving. I'm not fucking blaming. I'm not leaving. Yeah, exactly. I love it. I love it. And I love'cause his, in that particular scene, his dad is just like, oh my. With that being said, that's gotta be one of DiCaprio's like best performances. Like, miss me with this Titanic. I'm, I'm cold, I'm falling into the ocean. Crap. This, that was such a great, great, great scene. You know what else is good? Shutter

Cozy Snap: 1:28:24

Island. But you won't watch it either, Alex.'cause you're too busy. I watch Shutter Island. No, I watch

Alexander Coccia: 1:28:28

Shutter Island. I'm working. Listen, I'm working on Inception, my wife and I, we have a plan. We have a plan, okay? We're gonna watch some, listen, we're recording this on Sunday, tonight. It's Game seven Leafs, okay? So we're gonna see what happens there. As a Leaf fan, my entire life, I expect nothing. And so, like, that's just the way it works. I've, I've been disappointed with'em in the past, so we'll know today if they've disappointed me again. But what I will say is that once the leaves are done, it's inception time, baby. Okay? And you know what? Cozy. If that movie better not suck.'cause if it does, I'm gonna call you out on it. Yeah. Okay. Cozy, pick the one. Which one do I watch for a Shutter Island or inception? Go.

Cozy Snap: 1:29:04

Inception.

Alexander Coccia: 1:29:04

Alright. Shutter Island. It is. And we'll see you on that next one.

Cozy Snap: 1:29:07

So thanks for listening, thanks for hanging out as always, and until the next one guys, happy snapping.