New X-Men Season | Ranking Every New Card In May | April Cards In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 131

Will the New X-Men season bring some good and bad cards? What were the new surprise series 4 cards that came out last month? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on the cards that came out in April? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome
• 0:26 Snap Packs Chat
• 5:59 Alex's Topics
• 6:15 Thunderbolts
• 7:42 Esme Cuckoo
• 19:04 Surge
• 28:23 Prodigy
• 34:56 Elixir
• 40:53 Xorn
• 46:54 Tournament
• 49:18 Captain Carter
• 53:07 Goliath
• 55:40 Kahhori
• 59:46 Infinity Ultron
• 1:02:22 Strange Supreme
• 1:05:31 Hydra Stomper
• 1:09:03 Toxie Doxie
• 1:10:13 Batroc the Leaper
• 1:12:21 Topaz
• 1:15:25 Fan Fei
• 1:17:00 The Snap Chat Mailbag
• 1:24:07 Outro

Transcript

Cozy Snap: 0:00

What's going on guys? And welcome back to another episode of the Snapchat. We have a brand new season in May and we have potentially the most cards we've ever gotten in a brand new season. The Snap packs are here. We are here. And as always, I'm joined by the one and only Mr. Alex cia. How you doing today, buddy? How is your may starting out and happy recording date here? Star Wars Day. May the fourth be with you.

Alexander Coccia: 0:22

Thank you sir. May the fourth be with you always. Yeah. It's actually a great day to be a Marvel Snap player. We got a new set of kind of like acquisition system that I know a lot of people have been engaging with, still early to see how it's truly gonna run. Right. But I think a lot of people were like hoarding tokens for the drop and then a lot of people got, Hey, like I got collection complete. Like,'cause I was hoarding tokens and then I used the snapbacks to good effect. That's great. It sounds like the acquisition is improved. The real question's gonna be is whether or not it's enough. For those returning players who came back and then they're like, oh. This still isn't good enough for me. You know what I mean? So we need to see where that, where it falls ultimately.

Cozy Snap: 0:56

I'm glad you're bringing up the Snap packs first,'cause Yeah, we don't have it on any of our topics, but I think it's a great place to start. I think, you know, first of all, they're great at launching things, like right after we get our episodes released, so like we released last week's episode and they're like, by the way, three brand new cars, here we go. Whoa. And it came outta nowhere. And so move got obviously a massive upgrade this last week. We're gonna be talking about that over on your side. But first of all, I have to say the surprise factor of Snap packs, the extra goodies that you get kind of the, the potential role to get multiple cars. That was definitely like Oh wow. Kind of cool. Shocking, like. You know, wasn't expecting that as much. I think that was a nice bonus. And the whole thing feels pretty good. What I'm curious about though is like you skip, let's say this week, all right? And you go to next week, it's like, how is this gonna feel as you start skipping cards and, and you know, with spotlights you knew you could get one of three, now it could be one of x, how many, right? And then, you know, whatever happens now the cool thing about that is you're almost always getting like a newer card that's gonna do something, you know, you know, potentially pretty well. But we're gonna have to see how that works out for you, you know?

Alexander Coccia: 1:57

No. Absolutely. And like the problem is, is like we joked about in the past with the Spotlight Cash system, you had landmines that were baked into the spotlight cash. So if, if a card was really good or you almost could anticipate a card being good based on how bad the cash was. Yeah.'cause they're like, oh, that's fair. You know, this card looks like it's gonna be a banger, so they're gonna put in absolute filth with it. Oh look, it's another null variant. You know what I mean? It's like, and and then when there's a bad card, they just filled it with like, oh look, it's Gladiator and Loki, or something. Cool. Right. So now it's the same issue, whereas if you're someone who's not collection complete, yes, they've kind of made it so that like there's segments of packs you can target cards with, but there's still landmines in there, right? And you might have a seasonal practice by the, if you don't want,

Cozy Snap: 2:39

were you collection complete or did you have to get any like series four?

Alexander Coccia: 2:42

I've always been

Cozy Snap: 2:43

collection

Alexander Coccia: 2:43

Complete. Yeah. I came very close to not being collection complete with King Eat Tree. And then you were like, are you seriously not gonna, you called me out on the Snapchat, remember? Then I'm like, fine, Cozy, I'll grind it,

Cozy Snap: 2:52

dude. I think so. I wanna say the UI is good, you know, I'll give'em credit there. I think everything looks, you know, polished there. They gave a free card, you know, we were hoping for that as well. It took a second to get the tokens, but they, they ended up getting that rectified so. Free card, we said they should launch with something. You know, that's kind of nice too, if you're coming back to the game. It's a little wonky. But I actually like that they get, they gave tokens over the new card that they were gonna do. They were gonna give like a series five pack, but they did tokens. And then that way, if you come back to the game, you have a, at least a choice where you wanna spin those, right. So that's nice, you know, but as you said, time will tell. We have to see how this thing kind of bakes. But it seems on the surface like it, it's definitely a win.

Alexander Coccia: 3:29

Yeah, it is definitely a win. But now that it's released you've talked about this in the past, there's only so many man hours that you have to build out content for this game. Now that the Snap hacks are gone, we need to start seeing improvements on some other stuff, right? First of all, game like game bugs need to be squashed. Okay? We need to get rid of the gold tickets outta the. Caches. They're garbage. They're useless, awful. No one wants them. Absolutely awful. Completely brutal. Brutal, brutal. I would say you need to change the up the fast upgrade system to not eat people's boosters. If you're gonna keep boosters as part of the overall economy, like there's a point we need to do an airing of grievances at some point. But now that this is done, guys. Draft mode, other stuff, get it going. Let's go. Yeah, a little q We have more time, more, more energy. Let's get it.

Cozy Snap: 4:08

Little q quality of life update would be nice, man. I would give them half the caches I have just to open them all at once. I just take half of them. I don't even want them. Just can I just open'em all at the same time? Like, that's, that's, that's my hope. Prayer at least it opened this spotlight, like ease for you and it gave you tokens. But yeah, time will tell. We'll see how that all works out as we move forward in Marvel, Snap, and, how would you say they did on the marketing push? I didn't see as much as I was hoping to see, but they, they, you know, they, they did some,

Alexander Coccia: 4:34

yeah, I'm not behind that. I don't think they did enough. I was expecting more and also even the 4,000 tokens or whatever they gave, it was okay. Not insignificant, but like I. I don't think a player whose lapse looks at that and is like, oh, I gotta come back. Yeah. Because remember you have the impression of 4,000 tokens is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things for them. And they're lapsed for four months. Like what's four grand gonna do? Like it's gonna do nothing. Well wait, I got a couple series four cards. It's like not even, you can't even get multiple series four cards with that. Really The new ones, the seasonal ones. So like, I don't know. It just wasn't quite enough. We need to get lapsed players back and we need to give them a reason to stay. You have the Snap pack system, it's definitely an improvement, but I think you gotta be a little less stingy sometimes and just get people through the door again.

Cozy Snap: 5:16

Yeah, I agree. What I'm looking for right now, and I dunno why it's so hard, I'm trying to do it on the side of here. Here it is. I wanna see how much they boosted this, their post here. You, you could tell typically, like whenever on Twitter it says the numbers right, the algorithm numbers. So 72,000 on the snapback. Yeah. So that's not nearly enough. They definitely like marketing spin. You can see directly like, like right there, how much at least they're putting into X or Twitter. And that's usually a good indication of where it's going for the rest of this stuff. But it doesn't look like they did any if at all. But yeah man. Well, let's go and talk about it, man. It's a brand new season. We, we, we are excited as ever to talk about all the brand new cars coming to Marvel Snap in May. So we know what we're talking about over here. We're breaking them all down. We've got the new X-Men season upon us. Alex, what are we talk about on your side of the Snapchat?

Alexander Coccia: 6:02

Cozy. On my side of Snapchat, we're gonna be discussing all the series five cards that launched last month. We're also gonna be discussing the series four cards that launched by Surprise last week, and we're gonna be doing a full review of those. And then as always, our Snapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap: 6:15

Well buddy, before we jump into it, I'm about to tonight I'm gonna be going to see Thunderbolts Man. And as I said, I think I said this last week. I heard whispers. It's the best movie since endgame, or at least potentially to live up to. Have you, have you gone and seen it? Are, are you planning to go? What's the, what's, what's the verdict? I would

Alexander Coccia: 6:32

like to go. It's just a matter of finding time when I know, and I would like to go,

Cozy Snap: 6:36

right, dude, I had to get a sitter, like I had to get it all lined up. You know what it is, is I, I avoid. Spoilers like crazy. And because we work with Marvel stuff all the time, like all my algorithms are set to Marvel stuff, so it's just constantly in my feed and in my face. And so I like, I can't do it. I, I can't risk getting spoiled, so gonna go over there. Apparently the in credit scene is like insane is all I know. That's all I know. That's, that's the, I I, I've not seen it. I just, I've heard the words that it's insane. So I'm. I'm strapped up for it, buddy. And hopefully they, I think, man, they need a, they need a buff white widow again, man. They, they completely made her such a, such a garbage card in this game. Once a, once a great titan, I feel like we get so many good tube drop tube drops, which we're about to get talk about today, but we get somebody good tube drops and then they, they end up just getting nerve down the line once they've had their kind of reign. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 7:27

Yeah, no, I know. White Widow completely fell off the face of the earth, like completely like one small change, a significant Nerf nonetheless, but it's gone. Completely gone. I dunno if I miss it though. It was. It was pretty rough. Like in the heyday of White Widow like it was. It was a lot, man.

Cozy Snap: 7:42

Yeah, it

Alexander Coccia: 7:42

was.

Cozy Snap: 7:42

Well, but let's talk about the brand new season pass card. And the card to kick off this season is Esme Cuckoo, a three four, my friend on Reveal. Copy a card from your deck into your hand set. Its cost to three and power to four. Now, Alex, I think when we read this before. We were like, okay, you got Ironman, you have some cool stuff. We looked at this back whenever it first was kind of released in the data mines, and it did not change from what we saw it as. I don't know if I expected this to be the season pass card, but as we continue to read it obviously man, you've got a little bit of a draw engine within this card and have a way to, to get access further into your deck, which is pretty cool. You know, obviously it can, it can hit cards, maybe you don't want it to, but I think this thing has some strong potential. Before we go into the synergy though. First impressions, what's your star rating?

Alexander Coccia: 8:30

First impressions. I think this is a strong four, like a very strong four. I don't think it hits like the five of some other stuff in the past, but I think it's a very strong four. I don't wanna dive too much into synergies. XI wanna give you a chance to rebuttal your, your star rating and stuff like that, but this is a card that as I continue to try to like design decks for and figure out, I'm like, I think this might be better than I gave it first credit for for a lot of different reasons. But yeah, I'm gonna go with a good four.

Cozy Snap: 8:56

Yeah, it's funny, it's, it's a tough one to evaluate because I really like what it does. The fact that it's giving you a free draw is awesome, right? Potentially it could be the draw, the, the card that's on top. Keep in mind guys, it's, it's from your deck, so it's what's remaining, right? It's not your starting deck. It's not what you built. It's what's remaining in your deck. So you also have a little bit of foresight, right, of what's gonna come. That's how it's gonna work.

Alexander Coccia: 9:16

Yeah, I absolutely think so. I don't think it's gonna be like the top card. No, I think it would specify if it was a top card. So it's probably gonna be a random card that's in your deck. But there is a couple things notable about that. That means that, like for instance, we'll, well, I'm sure we'll talk about it, but if we can get right into it, like Silver Surfer, I wanna talk about it quick. You, you

Cozy Snap: 9:33

didn't even open himself. Technically I haven't even gotten to my star rating and I just like, Alex was just like, Surfer. Okay,

Alexander Coccia: 9:38

fine. I'll hold it. I'll hold it. Star rating. Cozy

Cozy Snap: 9:41

surfer's. Definitely the, yeah, definitely Suby there, but no, I, Hey. I just, I did all that just to say I agree with you on a strong four.

Alexander Coccia: 9:49

But yeah, go ahead buddy. I'm glad. See, we, we agree. It'll be interesting'cause I have some, I have some pretty intense ratings coming up, so I'd like to see where you are. I get really excited about this, right? I like to know where you are at compared to where I am, but yeah, like for example, with Surfer, right? A lot of people I think are gonna focus on the fact that you know, you're adding, you're, you're making something for power, right? And so, oh, Surfer goes from a two to a four power. You know, a sage goes from a three zero to a. Three, four. And that's pretty cool. But I think what is really important here is that you could potentially copy Surfer that's in your deck. And if you don't draw it, then you have a Surfer there and you have your end game play. Or what if you draw a Surfer anyway? You got two surfers, you could actually still draw into the cards that you've copied, which I think could create some pretty interesting shenanigans. And then the other side to this is because it says set its cost to three, that makes me believe that it should work. That if you hit Sarah. With with Cuckoo here, cuckoo, right? If you hit Sarah, Sarah is now technically a three costed card that will get buffed by Silver Surfer as well. So Gwenpool, Galata, Sarah, and those types of cards that could be set to three costs could therefore be part of the buff towards Surfer. So I actually think that's pretty fascinating.

Cozy Snap: 11:00

Yeah, it's always but the set is curious there because we've seen stuff like, oh, does it change it towards Zo can work and like things like that with four cost cards. And sometimes that's not the case. But if, if that is the case, then awesome. It could get buffed even if it's not though. Yeah. Here's the thing. I think this thing has way more potential than we're giving it by the simple fact of in card games, right? You never know what you don't draw. And so if you are in Facting, a copy of a card that you don't draw, like that has so much power behind it in a 12 card deck game. Point blank. We've seen that they're very strict with this effect. It took Adam Morelock two years to get buffed with the draw engine. Crystal has continued to be a bad card that they've tried to make, you know, with a little bit of give and take. Anything that has card draw has drawbacks. Typically.

Alexander Coccia: 11:45

Come on.

Cozy Snap: 11:46

This is an

Alexander Coccia: 11:46

obvious answer to this. Go ahead. Crystal's not a season pass card clown. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 11:51

Fair, fair enough. But yeah, listen, I think that aspect alone is gonna make combo decks that much better, right? Like there are so many decks that they can't add too much draw engine. Like one of the reasons I love magic is because like, I just like, you know, going through your deck, drawing, scrying you all that good stuff, you can't do it here because you could just make combo decks that are so good that you just obliterate your opponent because you have that consistency. But this is a step towards that because you are able to get that. Now, another thing to what you just elaborated on and before I go to surfers, yeah. I mean if you are missing certain cards in your hand, you have that much of a better shot to get said card. And then if you get two of'em, well great. So you have that benefit getting two cards that you could play. You could get two surfers to play on the same turn. On turn six. But then as another effect, you know, I'm going up to four and a half because I like this so much, but as another effect, you can, you know, target certain cards with that kind of Mr negative boost, right? The Ironman, so on and so forth. The, the, the Sarah to set to three four. So it's doing so many different things for you at the exact same time, which makes me like her a lot as a card. It makes me think she can work way more than just in something. Like Silver Surfer decks and or other, you know, synergy decks of that. So we'll have to see how it plays out. This is definitely one of those, how, how it ends up feeling in play.

Alexander Coccia: 13:05

I. Yeah. And again, there's a chance that it won't interact the way that I'm expecting or we're expecting with it set its cost of three. So like if Sarah does not get buffed by Surfer, you're still getting CED on turn four, right? Which is still somewhat beneficial while only giving up one power there. But I, I, I have like, it, it says set it's cost with a capital C to three. That would make me think it's gonna get buffed by Surfer. But again, sometimes we get surprised. Obviously bro's a winner here. If brood gets hit, it's now a four power card. That tends to be, you know, pretty damn powerful. I got a question for you now. I know that you're a lover, an absolute lover. One of your favorite cards in the game, your avatar, Cozy, the Pixel Colson. I wanna draw some comparisons to Colson. Do you think this is pure power creep on Colson? Because Colson gives you two random cards, which can be beneficial. Sure. But with. With Esme. I wish. I, I, now I don't, I I, I really like Esme. Paid attention to how to say the card's name now. And now that I'm live, I like, how do I say this name properly?

Cozy Snap: 14:01

Is it Esme? Esme. Esme Cuckoo. Esme.

Alexander Coccia: 14:05

Esme. I thought it was Esme

Cozy Snap: 14:07

Cuckoo.

Alexander Coccia: 14:08

Esme. You know what's sad? I even looked it up prior to recording because I didn't wanna embarrass myself like this. And now that we're live, I, I, it's like I'm drawing blanks. So Esme cuckoo here. How's it compared to Colson? Is this straight up power creep? Because now you're getting Yeah, it's just different with, with, you're getting two cards. But the random with Esme, you're getting a card from your deck, which theoretically should be more valuable.

Cozy Snap: 14:27

I think it's just different, like, you know,'cause then it's like, okay, so Victoria hand is where you'd like kinda look at that? Yeah. Because you're, if you're playing closer for other reasons, like you're not, then I don't really compare the two because I don't know, I just. Yes, yes and no. Like this has more upswing at times. But then also, you know, getting random generation could be good too, I think. I think because it only does one, it just serves a different purpose in Colson. But yeah, if they one had to be cut and for more consistent purposes, you're probably going with Esme. So yeah, it's of comparison. I don't see her being played in Victoria hand, even though there is synergy there. I don't see that being like a targeted a, a huge targeted build.

Alexander Coccia: 15:03

I think it has potential. Yeah, it has potential. Because if you think about it, it, the card that gets copied will be able to get Victoria Ham buffed. But if you also think about the targets in those decks, like a three four devil, Dino is legit. Yeah. Because that allows you to play it with mystique on turn six. Right. And you could even maybe play the Devil Dino, you drew onto turn five also mystique itself being a three four plus the effect could be potentially huge. Oh, I don't know, man. I, I could see it potentially being legit there. Like, I don't think it's ironically Kori last. Season was probably better for that overall and didn't quite make it to the top, but I wonder if. This card in conjunction with Khor. Now you got me thinking about A, so I think it'll work.

Cozy Snap: 15:41

I wonder. I think it'll work, but like when I compare it to like Surfer and some other brews that we could put together here, I think it's just like down a couple pegs from that and so then it won't get played. Like we see that like, oh, this could work, and then we find the one that does work and then people gravitate towards that. Just

Alexander Coccia: 15:54

play that.

Cozy Snap: 15:54

Yeah. Like kind of what we saw with Strange Supreme and Thanos, right? Like that once that took heat, it's like, man, did that really kind of gain its ground? Right. But I do agree, like it does have a shot there. You know what I'm, I'm curious in is like, how do you blend a merge of like,'cause we're gonna get day one, a lot of like, oh, let's do Iron Man, let's do gore, let's do, you know, some cool, like honor reveal effects. The, the stuff we've seen before, these cost setters, the, you know, the, the white Tigers and whatnot. You know, fast dose is gonna be compared a lot this season to a couple cards and, and it's like, we've tried stuff like this before, but I think with her, what I like about her the most outside of just the set cost thing is just the consistency. Of drawing further into the deck while getting something that you can play the next turn. You know, most definitely. Like, that's another great thing. You have an on curve play kind of no matter what, kinda wish there was some Sebastian Shaw synergy, I was like, okay, permanent power. But no, he's a four already, so he doesn't gain power. Yeah, I don't think so. Technically. Right. But yeah, man, I think Surfer is by far the bat man. Captain Carter, Silver Surfer, brood. You're happy with like, anything this hits there and like the consistency of that deck will get that much better.

Alexander Coccia: 16:57

Yeah, no, I, I do agree. Another shadow deck wise is I don't know if Mr. Negatives cope, but like maybe it's a backup plan to not drawing negative, although you like, you generally, if they Snap, you would retreat anyway without negative on three or four by just kind of throwing it out there that it would copy like high impact cards, right? Like the Ironmans and the gore and stuff like that. And it's probably legit in tribunal honestly.'cause if you think about the way you close out games with tribunal, you are often accessing cards like Iron Man Tribunal itself onslaught that you're utilizing for their effect. And so potentially she might be a card you could play there to give yourself some additional reach. It would probably take the place of something like an Iron LA and what those shells used to be.

Cozy Snap: 17:35

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that. I think tribunal with a lot of these cards we're gonna talk about today just gets more consistent, gets better and, and ends up being you know, we kind of talked about that at the beginning with Captain Carter. It's like, oh, is that something we wanna do there? And then as you continue to look through what this card does, it is going to reach in that deck further and we've seen magic. Played in tribunal, you know, a lot to, to extend the game, to get deeper into the deck. Sarah there as well, to play things cheaper and get on, like get tri. Yeah. All that. So definitely agree. We could see some of that with Esme. I think it's cool though that we have the potential for this car to also just work in places that we have no idea until we continue to further theory craft some of these cards come out and we kinda know exactly where they're gonna go. I, you know, it's funny because I think because we don't know that, that's why we both kind of give her four, four and a half and we can't give her like the best rating. But I do think the strongest part of that kid outside of the set is gonna be just getting a card from your deck that you don't have in your hand on tier three, and really just help out consistency. I mean, even something like Wiccan.

Alexander Coccia: 18:34

Oh yeah. True. Wicked. Yeah. I mean, you're playing this on three. Yeah, you still play Wicked on Four. You'd get the effect though. Wicked's all about the effect, right? So it still works.

Cozy Snap: 18:42

I ki I like Surge, actually way better which we're about to get to in Wicked than I do. Esme because that's more of an on curve play. Anything though to close out Esme, obviously cards like Gore and with low power, high Potential, those are gonna be, you know, the big winners. But.

Alexander Coccia: 18:56

No, I, I do have, I'm gonna come back to her in our next discussion though, I think. Oh,

Cozy Snap: 19:00

yeah. Great. I'd like to see it. I'd like to hear it hit the

Alexander Coccia: 19:02

hat a little

Cozy Snap: 19:03

bit. Okay. Fair enough. Well, let's go ahead and continue on to our next card, Surge and listen, we will not shy away from probably both of us liking it. I mean, is this your five star card of the month or what?

Alexander Coccia: 19:15

You know what, I am not gonna go five star on this.

Cozy Snap: 19:18

Okay.

Alexander Coccia: 19:19

I think it's really good, but I, I think it, I think it might be getting pumped a little hard.

Cozy Snap: 19:23

Okay. I think it's the best card this

Alexander Coccia: 19:25

month. Yeah. I. I say think the most interesting card this month, and it could very well be the best card this month. Ooh. I'm curious, but like peop like, I don't know if I, if I would go five on this, I'm gonna go five, I think think it's, yeah, I think it's a four. I think it's a four for me.

Cozy Snap: 19:36

I, I think I'm gonna go five. I think this is the one where I see it being played. This is like the new two, as I said earlier, I think this is like the new two that gets placed. So if, if you don't know, search is a two. Two, okay. On reveal, give the top card of your deck, negative one cost and plus one power. And after you play that, you're gonna repeat this ability. So you're, you're essentially just. Continuing this snowball if you will of what your top deck's gonna be over and over. And as you play those cards, you get to be able to get the effect yet again. Search does have to be on a location to be, to get this effect. And there's ways to abuse this. Alex, I'll give it to you first.

Alexander Coccia: 20:14

So first of all, I'm actually super excited about this card when this card was Data Mind and it's pretty much remained consistent. I don't know if the power changed at all. It might have been a two, three, I don't remember. But I was super excited. I think this is a really cool effect, really cool ability. I think it's a really cool design. Kudos to whoever came up with this idea.'cause I think it's neat. This is like what Marvel Snap should be really interesting stuff that wouldn't be able to, like this is the type of thing that would be hard to replicate in paper, right? For instance, like, and that's where Marvel Snap really shines, however. If you get everything perfect and every top deck that you get is exactly what you wanna play, then yeah, this crushes, the numbers get insane, especially when you consider the negative cost. And then if you start to factor in her power, she's outputting, and then the negative cost, she's like, this could be like a negative three, six power card or whatever. Right? Or like, you know what I mean? Like, it's kind of interesting how it scales. However, you're gonna play cards in your starting hand, right? You're not gonna play er on two every single time. There's gonna be moments where, you know, you play Surge and then you're, you top deck a card, you're like, well, this card's not what I wanna play right now. I'm gonna play this, and then you play the other one. So you're gonna be like holding back its upward potential a little bit. I'm just concerned of what the flow of the game state looks like for Surge. On paper, you play Surge and you just keep playing the top deck card. But I don't think that's the way we play Snap for the most part with Minoru exceptions, which I'll talk about in a sec. But s I'm excited for. But I'm wondering if the actual play pattern might be more difficult to get the value from than first Like, it first appears

Cozy Snap: 21:43

a hundred percent. And I, I understand what you're saying. That's not the way we play Snap Now'cause we don't have a card that could do that. I think because Surge does that, that's gonna change the way we play it. So, you know, I, I understand a lot of your points. I think first of all, if we were talk about like, you know, it only takes one hour time to give a card to five star rating if it makes that, you know. Archetype broken. And in this case, I think it's balance, right? Like balance and there's another card I'll bring up in a second, but balance for sure. And I don't know, sometimes man, you can only play cards once and they only let effects happen once. So I don't, I don't really know. But after you play it, it seems like you can continue to play this. I don't know why this wouldn't work in balance, in my opinion.

Alexander Coccia: 22:20

To me, so we don't have confirmation of this yet. I actually looked at the Discord to see if I could find it, but it doesn't exist. I believe it's more like a hot potato thing with surge where you play. So you play surge and then the card, you top deck, you play that, and then that effect gets passed onto the card in the deck. So if you bounce the original card, it shouldn't repro the effect. Okay. I don't believe so. I don't know even. But then again, if it does, it's crazy.

Cozy Snap: 22:42

Yeah. If it does. Or just playing Surge again and playing her twi, like, I don't know. I feel like there's a way to get a chain reaction going kind of nutty with her. And the potential with Toxin and Beast there just makes those decks way more consistent, makes those draw engines even cheaper. And then you can start to stack cost reduction, which makes that whole thing wild. So to me, and then just getting that extra power, it's like all those cards want that anyway. Right? And that minus cost. So I think that alone makes you completely broken. Now Kitty pride that there's, to me, there's no way that works. But also the luck of that happening. Should it work? Like if Kitty pride happens to be the top deck, okay, you get to unlock, you know a free surge play every single time. Is that how that's gonna work? Or again, is it passed along, I guess, to your. Point.

Alexander Coccia: 23:26

Hot potato type idea. Yeah. Okay. So I actually, we don't know, and I, I tried to find out'cause I knew this conversation was gonna come up. Yeah. And we don't have the answer. This is like a mechanics question we'll have to answer when the card comes out, or at least closer to the release. But yeah, kitty pride would be insane if you could just keep applying that effect. And because it says. Give it the negative one cost with no minimum, it'll make these one costed cars zero. Yeah. That are often being used in bounce, which I think is a huge benefit, especially when you consider the fact that toxin just got buffed too. Yeah, right. No,

Cozy Snap: 23:53

for sure man. I think this is, this is the card that I thought was cool with wicking.'cause you can go Quicksilver turn one, and if you have surge, you have the potential to go crazy here and do some kind of wild stuff. With Wcan, I feel like there's just so many different homes for her. And then also just as a base card. She's gonna have that value. I don't need a two six in value every single time. If I have a two, four, and two reductions in costs that allow me to do something like Aeron four, you know, you know what that can do. You know the, the ability that can do Living Tribunal, huge boost, but also across the board, I think this thing has some serious firepower potential.

Alexander Coccia: 24:28

It does it, it definitely does. And so I was trying to like figure out some decks in advance of surge as well and in advance of our conversation. I find it potentially tricky in like a ramp style shell. I was trying to figure out like how those would play and I, I'm not completely sold on it because like, if you think about it, you'd have to place surge and then top deck. A four drop to play that with the value or you just hold, like if you get a six drop, you can still play it on five, but then you're not repeating the effect. Right? So I don't think that ramp is necessarily the best option, but it wouldn't surprise me if that is a, is a place where people try to go. What I will say though is that like I think there are gonna be some cars that even if you only hit them once and you don't continue the surge effect, they're just great. Like imagine you hit a Shanxi and now Shanxi is a three costed card. That, that's exactly what made Zapu insanely broken when he was an ongoing, originally right? Where like cards were just, he was making cards too inexpensive and you were able to do things like Sean Chi into something else on turn, 6, 2, 4 drops to win the game on turn six. But where I think he's gonna be the absolute best and where I'm gonna be going on day one. And this is, this is the deck that I'm going with and it's gonna have east May cuckoo, cuckoo in it as well. I think they're gonna be excellent together in a vast agent, venom and havoc shell. If you think about the way those shells are constructed, they're constructed so that you could basically have kitty pride who's in that deck. So I'll be able to find out if it works or not. You have kitty pride in havoc. The idea is you play havoc on turn four and all the rest of your cards are costed three or less. What that allows you to do is play kitty pride plus a three drop that you top deck, regardless of what happens with havoc.'cause he's always stealing that energy. You only require four energy in order to actually complete your turn every, every turn. Surge could be potentially interesting there.'cause no matter what you top deck, you'll be able to play it because everything is built to be able to play instantly and you might even be able to sneak out more cards because of surge's discount.

Cozy Snap: 26:22

I like that. Yeah. It is got kind of like an old school like Miracle Field to it a bit too. Like I love low cost of decks that could just like pop off late and I think that's where Surge. You know, as you said earlier, it's not the way we play, but also like, I think I, I feel like the, the Snap community will be able to cook with this really well. Like to your point, just Shung q getting discounted is awesome, but like, think about once you start to multiply that to have just about an effect on, you know, most of the cards in the deck and then you go crazy. One of the best points about Snap is the low deck size that you can make things happen, you know, the way that you envision them and, and SRG, I think is gonna bring a good amount of consistency. I used to always like measure like, oh, but if you don't draw her, and I think, you know, I think Falcon Captain America kind of just. Destroyed that Sam Wilson. Like, we were like, well, what if you don't get'em and you can't play the shield tunes out? He was always a good card. Now obviously there's other reasons for that, but I think Serge has kinda the world ahead to be a, a good two cost. And I like that she's coming now and not later. Because if this is a card that's like a musket and you are complex collection, complete or close to it then you know you're gonna roll less of a chance to be able to get this. And if we look at the rest of the season, this is probably. Probably my favorite outta the bunch.

Alexander Coccia: 27:29

By far this is like if we're star rating based on excitement, this is my five star. Yeah. Like this is the card I want in my collection. 100%. This is what I wanna cook with. I'm just being a little hesitant on what I think could be the floor. I think the floor could be slightly lower. On surge. I.'cause of like, and, but again, but as you said, people are gonna get this, I think the excitement's high enough that there's gonna be cooks. People are gonna cook and someone's gonna figure something out. That's an absolute banger. And sometimes that's what you need. You just need one really well designed deck for a card to take off.

Cozy Snap: 27:57

I'm shocked you, you like I am blown away. You did not bring up power. The duck. You didn't bring up grandma like you really had to like continue. So I, I was ready for the like, are you ready for medical grade? Copio? Get the veins ready. Like I was, I'm here. I was ready.

Alexander Coccia: 28:11

Buddy. Well then all the rest of the cards we gotta talk about require medical grade opium, so don't worry, buddy. You got that. So I'll keep

Cozy Snap: 28:17

plenty of it as we move along. Alright, so Serge card of the month in both of our opinions. Yeah. Without question, prodigy. Now Alex notoriously hated this card's art design. As soon as you sell it, my glasses. And he sees himself a lot in Prodigy here, a third cost four power card on Reveal if this is in the back row. Also, Alex's favorite mechanic. Copy the text of the card in front of it. What do you think about Prodigy?

Alexander Coccia: 28:43

You know what Prodigy looks like a studious individual. But I think this card probably sucks.

Cozy Snap: 28:48

Yeah, I don't think it's that good. I think that we got our answer to how this mechanic works and it's just. It's just awkward. Like at least I felt this way with, you know, captain Carter even before they now keep an eye, there's back row, front row. But I, I feel like there were so many, there were games where I'm like, whoa, look at what I've done, you know? But there was so many more games where it's like, oh, I can force this to happen, I guess. And then I am, I. Screwed over here, or, oh, well, that, that doesn't work out where I wanna play. Or my opponent is stacked up there. Some I, and so, because it, it almost forces you to commit so much. That's what I don't like about it, and that's what I'm hesitant about for the back row. I.

Alexander Coccia: 29:28

I absolutely agree 100%. We got the answer with Agent Carter as to how that macro gameplay feels, and it doesn't necessarily feel great. And the thing with Prodigy is that it dives even deeper into that because with Agent Carter. I think it's a much more straightforward play pattern. You're adding her power to the back line. You're getting her into the front row. With Prodigy, there's an added level of complexity. It's like an extra stage of abstraction where like you, you have to have a card in front specific to one of the two locations to then copy to make it worth it. I just think it's too expensive. What's your cost at a free drop star rating? You're giving them my star. I'm doing two, and I wrote in brackets barely.

Cozy Snap: 30:09

Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I, I think I. I think of how he's gonna be with Living Tribunal. It's like, it's tough.'cause I feel like that's a really good home for him as well though. And, and there's gonna be times I agree. So like two and a half to three is where I wanna lean. I don't think I can give him a three. I think I'll give him two and a half.

Alexander Coccia: 30:27

Here's the problem, here's the problem. I see. I think he's stepping on the toes of two cards that I think are just better. I think that Moonstone is simply better than this card. I think that FRI is simply better than this card. And they're easier to play. This does have some advantages, right. But I don't know, man. Like I see a lot of opportunity for it to do well in ongoing shells. Yeah, you bring up a good point with the ongoing thing.

Cozy Snap: 30:49

Yeah. So like, I was gonna say, well, why compare it to Moonstone? But yeah, if you look at Ant Man and, and any of the, any of the cheap ones, right? It's like, well, yeah, you just do moonstone at that point. This is gonna give you reach to other potentials. So at that point you would not wanna play Moon Sun. You wanna, you know, mess around with a, a, another more fun, crazy option. And there are things that can like. Go crazy with this guy. You know, you can really do, and that's why Living Tribunal is such a safe build because you are committing to that one lane and it's typically a lot easier to get that going. But him being a three is a little, there's just things I don't like about how he plays out, and that's what has me worried about him as a card. But there is potential for, for him to be to, to, to pop off. I just think the consistency is what I worry about. And yeah, I don't think, the sad thing is too, this is not a season pass card, so if he does suck, he's not gonna get, he's not gonna get insto buff like captain Carter did.

Alexander Coccia: 31:39

You mean that Prodigy doesn't have the plot armor of a seasoned passport? It doesn't,

Cozy Snap: 31:42

bro.

Alexander Coccia: 31:42

I mean, there are a couple things I, I tried to like figure stuff out now. There's a couple things we're noting. First of all when you run things like Captain Carter or Prodigy and you focus things very vertically, especially ongoing, does make it really susceptible to something like Consis, which is becoming increasingly more popular. And Enc Chra. Ability to wipe out an entire lane and crush a game plan is the reason why so on is doing as well as it is'cause chances naturally makes those decks in the weekend missions you're playing. So on your feasting like hard because everyone's doing the weekend missions for Agent Carter. What I will say is that there is one specific line that I think actually has potential probably where I'll go day one. As of right now, we're still like weeks out, but you could see Prodigy working in like a patriot. Type shell as a backup to getting something like a moonstone or mystique. You could even technically prodigy. Like you could play Prodigy instead of something like a blue Marvel, copy the Patriot in front, and then Tron.'cause Tron is nice in the sense that it'll just, it'll just backfill. Like it'll just. You don't have to worry about the other locations, it'll do that. But you can stack like a Patriot, moonstone, prodigy and Antron and maybe that's something.

Cozy Snap: 32:47

Yeah. It's funny you said that actually.'cause I had wasp in here as like the filler to like get the quick fill and then go in there and it's like, okay, well that works in Patriot. So like you could have something as an insurance too. I just dunno if that. Tech is gonna have to fire power, right? Like if Yeah. When you add him, it's like a take away other options. That that's what has me slightly worried. But yeah, man, it just, he, he seems like his best synergy would be the ones that have the biggest upside though. And like, if we're not even just talking ongoing stuff, it's like Esme you know, cuckoo or isme. And we're gonna get one of those, right? I think it's E SME Esme, EM. A-S-M-R-E-S-E-M-E yeah, I think is, it s me for like

Alexander Coccia: 33:26

m sr. I can't even say the word a SMR for the rest of the, the podcast.

Cozy Snap: 33:30

But I feel like even I would rather play her for that exact, but she's a 3, 4, 2 bad, and then you get the effect. I just like, even like way more so than than him. So to me, this guy's going to the Snap packs. To, to mess up your draws. I feel like potentially he's not quite a

Alexander Coccia: 33:47

landmine, but he's like a grenade.

Cozy Snap: 33:49

Yeah. He's like yeah, he's the one that you're not like super mad about. But like, and luckily the ones after him aren't good, but like, I don't know, next season, I feel like if you're trying to get the car to the, you know, next season and then you get Prodigy, you're not like, oh good, okay, alright. I got pro. You're like, damn. Steve, I got Alex Kochi Jr.

Alexander Coccia: 34:08

No, no. I think that Prodigy at the end of the day is probably gonna be a skip for me. I just don't, I don't see it being a good card, honestly.

Cozy Snap: 34:14

But skips are that much more interesting, right? Because the, all that means is, let's say next week, like we, we are in a fascinating, I. Place because this month the cards kind of scaled down almost. Right? Like almost scale down. Oh, they scale down. Yeah. And excitement. Right? So it's funny that usually this would be a massive, like if you're like, Alex, coach, I officially say this as a skip, right? It's like, okay, what if next week's card was a five?

Alexander Coccia: 34:39

I know now it just added to the mix. Now you're, now it's, it's just spotlight Cash is all over again. Now you're just 50 50 essentially.

Cozy Snap: 34:45

Well, yeah, 50 50 was, it was a 33% anyway. Yes. So proud G. Moving on, we'll go to the next card of the month. And, and again, proud G Someone's gonna come up with a cool cook for it. We'll wait and see. Probably not Elixir. Elixir was once a card. We were, we were pumped about, thrilled about. And then they massacred. Look how they massacred my boy here. He's a two cost three power card on reveal. One of your cards destroyed last turn gets revived here. Now, before I ask you for your star rating, would you accept this or want this at a three cost blank power, but it has the effect of Ghost Rider that you can revive a card that turn.

Alexander Coccia: 35:22

That sounds better. That sounds like a better card.

Cozy Snap: 35:25

Even like a four six

Alexander Coccia: 35:26

Cozy is cooking.

Cozy Snap: 35:27

I dunno if it seems exciting, what's your star rating on him?

Alexander Coccia: 35:30

This card is absolute dog water. I almost, I almost used phrasing of language that would've been inappropriate for some viewers ears. Listen, man, this card sucks. It's a one star. I want nothing to do with it. I don't even want it. I don't even want it. This card is garbage. The original one, which was an activate one costed card. Was potentially a lot more interesting, especially since Activate could be put in the stack to be used better defensively than this card is. I honestly, I have some cope. I wrote down. I think this card is complete garbage. I might take this week off when it releases. Honestly, I think this card sucks. It's a one.

Cozy Snap: 36:08

Yeah, it is. It's interesting that they. We're not only so careful with the first design, which seemed broken, but then they came back and they gave it a two three. Right? So like directly like, all right, this is where we value this card and think what its impact is. Typically, that's what we could see with the custom power assignment. Right? I feel like even though there's things this card can do, it's that you would never use the card slot on this card. That's my, like my favorite thing about him is he's like a Chong chi counter. Kind of like if you get. Shunk cheat on a turn and you have him, you can play him the next turn and then you get that card back. Like that's probably my favorite thing you could do,

Alexander Coccia: 36:47

sir. I have an UNO reversal card on you. Okay.'cause I had that same thought too, and then I was like, maybe it's, oh wait. No it's not. Because when does Shung Q usually get played? Cozy.

Cozy Snap: 36:56

Yeah, typically lost during the game. Exactly. But he also can be played

Alexander Coccia: 36:59

before. And this garbage ass card says it only brings back one of your cards, destroyed the last turn, so it won't even bring back. So let's say you, you don't even have initiative and you're like, oh, they're gonna punch out my strange supreme. It doesn't matter. It's only gonna bring back something from turn five. If you play it on turn six, like, bro, this card is garbage. Like I, I, I can't even see that. Like, put it this way, why your hair is a hundred times better than this card and still does not have any meta penetration. Yeah. Straight up. Like I don't see why this has the same satellite as fire hair. Fire hair hair's way better and still is not necessarily meta.

Cozy Snap: 37:32

It's just awkward.'cause all the cool stuff you could do. Yeah, it's just too little, too late. And that's why I was like, okay, would you rather have this. You know, bring back something to turn off. It's like that at least seems remotely more interesting. You know? Like I feel like, it's like I look at Nimrod, I'm trying to look at some of these cars that actually can be destroyed because all the cool stuff like Deadpool doesn't get destroyed technically. So it doesn't work. Right. And that's, that's where it's upsetting. I do think there's gonna be something you can pull off with misery and fire. Like, I don't know, there's something cool you can get going on there. And I think there's something we're missing on that front. But even with how excited we were for fire hair. Remember she turned out to be like stats bad, but a good card kind of thing. Like if that was the case. With that, anytime we mess with misery, the, the, the, the win rate is typically miserable and I think Elixir is just gonna potentially add to that. A, a one is pretty bad. We've given, we don't give a lot of ones here, man.

Alexander Coccia: 38:25

I know I even like Thaddeus Thunder Bull Ross. Better than Elixir.

Cozy Snap: 38:28

Yeah, you did. I think it's,

Alexander Coccia: 38:29

I think Thaddeus Thunder Bull Ross is a better car than Elixir. Straight up. I actually play Thaddeus Thunder Bull Ross. Every once in a while. I'd give a, not since Scar got nerfed, but

Cozy Snap: 38:37

I think I'd agree. I think I'd give it a one. I just don't know the world outside of misery, like, I'm just trying to think.

Alexander Coccia: 38:42

Venom and I, I don't know.

Cozy Snap: 38:43

I don't know. It's just tough. We're in dangerous

Alexander Coccia: 38:45

territory together now. Giving ones is risky, man. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 38:48

Because if we set it like we're up for the roast, right. Marginal. This is the best part

Alexander Coccia: 38:51

of the season now you know that, right?

Cozy Snap: 38:53

Yeah. It's coming out right, like right away. Yeah.'cause I'm look like, like I'm looking at all these maybe a t.

Alexander Coccia: 38:59

A tma No, come on. No,

Cozy Snap: 39:01

I'm saying

Alexander Coccia: 39:01

like's. It's funny, I actually have written down literally a TMA is cope forced to destroy in a revival. Not even sure what though is what my note says.

Cozy Snap: 39:09

Not even sure what gets destroyed. Yeah. It it's just a bit awkward. Can you, and there's just no way to like abuse the card, you know what I mean? Like there's no way to do something crazy gr I mean, maybe, maybe, but very often you got a gambit counter look at that. Yeah, it's, it's a bit of a bummer. That's to, to say the least. And it doesn't scream that much excitement outside of a guest. I mean, I don't know, locations, you know, just death domain something and then bring it back. It is, we're reach the, well, it's not gonna be a good one.

Alexander Coccia: 39:36

Even with desk domain, it revives the card in elixir's location, so you can't even reach into the desk domain. Yeah,

Cozy Snap: 39:43

yeah. It's,

Alexander Coccia: 39:43

it's, oh no. Actually you could pull him into the desk domain and then he should revive then explode. Nevermind. Take it back.

Cozy Snap: 39:48

There is that card, kiddo Omega come coming out though, that will make this thing better. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 39:53

I think so. I'm not sure if that was supposed to be one of the series four drops.'cause I think the way it worked is the series four cards were talking on my side. I think those were technically the ones that were supposed to be released for this month, but they released them early to just coincide with the Snap packs,

Cozy Snap: 40:09

destroy this next activate, destroy the next card. You play this turn to gain its power. I think that, and it's only a two cost, so I think that's definitely something you can get cooking. A bit better, a bit better with this and Activate

Alexander Coccia: 40:19

would make that very, very straightforward to active stock. So then what would he be at that point, we always

Cozy Snap: 40:22

wanna look ahead. We don't wanna look back because, you know yeah, he's

Alexander Coccia: 40:25

better then possibly. But then that's also you're banking on the fact that Kid Omega doesn't get changed. Nerf, this card, this card was good. It was a one costed activate that like it was godly actually. Sounded good. Yeah. It's godly now. It's now it got destroyed. They must have figured out, honestly, a, a broken combination with it and, and decided to take it out to pasture.

Cozy Snap: 40:43

That's typically what we see. Yeah. So we're not fans of Elixir. Prodigy, not so much. So we have a strong start with cuckoo. Then surge is, is the, is the rocking start there and it's all on week one. And then we end the season with Zorn. Zorn, my friend, two cast three power. After any three or forecast card is played here, move it to another. Location Alex Ney. Pretty interesting works for yourself and against the opponents. Where do you see Zorn? What's the star rating?

Alexander Coccia: 41:13

I'm having a hard time with this one and I think that like this is a star rating I want to come back to as we get closer to the day I'm leaning to and I'm not excited about it. I almost wanna go three'cause I think that it could potentially be better than that. I think originally I was thinking three, but I think that Topaz is strictly better and move, because the fact that you can, you know, Topaz is putting a card into the center location, which lets you do stuff with Ghost Spider and stuff like that. Whereas Zorn, it's gonna be a little more random. I think it's easy to play around. I don't know, man, I'm not sold on the card.

Cozy Snap: 41:46

I think it can work with top, like, I don't know. I feel like at two I like it a lot at two costs.'cause we don't get a lot of twos. They typically, we get cards that step on each other at the three cost lot. So they. Being able to play this for only two and then kind of roll into some of the strong synergies that we know exist. Especially now with all the new move cards. Like we just have such a better chain reaction, like crazy. And then you can play the hydro Stomper out on three and you don't have to waste that on. Like, to me, I like the way this curves out a ton, but it almost seems not needed, right? Like I feel like we got to see this week, like, how much move did you play this week?

Alexander Coccia: 42:21

I played a lot of move, actually a lot of move testing the the new carts.'cause I I did a review video for them separately because they took us by surprise, played a lot more move than usual, played a lot of move poorly, honestly.

Cozy Snap: 42:32

But it was the most significant leap we saw in Move ever really. Like for sure. Like, it was a big,

Alexander Coccia: 42:38

big inflection of power.

Cozy Snap: 42:40

And that's gonna happen when you have a bunch of, a bunch of new cards all come at once, which we'd even know of. So like, I feel like Zorn is like not a little too late. And I think there is gonna be some cool synergy you can get off with him, but it does, you know what, you know what I like though about him? There was is Red Wing. I think Red Wing's interesting. But again, like, because it's three, I never thought of that actually. So it's curve play. So like, I like that curve play a lot better. So you have Red Wing, the first time you move it, add a card from your hand to the, to the old location. So it's like you then know exactly where that card's gonna go. It's gonna go with Zorn and then if it, like, it is just cool to me and it's. Zorn has played. So that card that is gonna be there is added so it could stay there. And so Zorn to me is cool'cause he plays defensive against cars that your opponent's gonna try to play, but then you also, you can like build decks around it. So I think Red Wing for me and a couple other synergies and move, give him a three star for me. But yeah, that was probably the coolest cook I thought of. I,

Alexander Coccia: 43:31

I, I like the red Wing call. Honestly, that wasn't on my radar. I like that call a lot.'cause I was thinking along the lines of like, well what's a scream deck need? Right? With like with you do a kingpin turn one and then you do, if you have initiative, you, you zorn. But like he's gonna need initiative and also like you guess location'cause they could just not play there. Also the idea that it's gonna be any three or four cost is strange. It'd be interesting if he was like, kind of repelling more costs than just three or four. Right. I think they're trying to get a little too cute with the magneto byline here, like the kind of the way that Magneto and Asteroid M work, I think they're really getting cute with the lore and I think it might be compromising the card.

Cozy Snap: 44:11

What if they think surfer's gonna get too good? And this is just a Surfer deck card. I

Alexander Coccia: 44:16

don't even know how a text against Surfer though,

Cozy Snap: 44:18

because you can't play cards on that location.

Alexander Coccia: 44:21

Yeah, bro. Yeah, but you would just, you could just fill the other location. No.

Cozy Snap: 44:24

You

Alexander Coccia: 44:25

fill all the other brew would fill one and then things would bounce around.

Cozy Snap: 44:28

Yeah, but it, it texts it technically a little bit. It makes their game play. If they don't get brewed, they're. I mean, they're probably in trouble anyway with Surfer, but I think it makes it a bit tough. So basically

Alexander Coccia: 44:36

day one, you're telling me to make a Zorn gene gray deck. Exactly. Yeah. Force them into the sorn. Exactly. They just play vision. I cry like what? I don't know.

Cozy Snap: 44:44

Yeah, right. Yeah. They just play the opposite location. But you're gonna

Alexander Coccia: 44:47

move, he just sits there actually, because it doesn't repel five costs only

Cozy Snap: 44:50

two.

Alexander Coccia: 44:50

It's

Cozy Snap: 44:51

two cost commitment. I'm trying to find use for my, I'm trying to find use for my, I think

Alexander Coccia: 44:54

that this card is probably gonna be like not as bad as Elixir. I think it's gonna be too niche. You got, listen, this is a classic Marvel Snap problem we're gonna have going forward. There's 12 cards in a deck. I don't see this making it

Cozy Snap: 45:07

for sure. The point I brought up earlier is like, oh cool, like Prodigy. It's like, oh cool. But does he ever make the the, yeah, the 12 decks or 12 cards in a deck and like as the game continues to. Not only expand, but as the game continues to evolve and we get better and better cards and tighten up those archetypes, you gotta really prove yourself. It's taken some archetypes, years to get replacements. Man, we saw that with destroy, like, yeah, you remember X 23 was the first significant change to destroy for like a year and a half. Like you No, no matter what we put in there. And so, you know, I think Zorn could be another example of that.

Alexander Coccia: 45:42

Yeah, that's the hope. I mean, we'll see. And also, like, this is obviously the tail end of the season. A lot changes. This could get buffed, this, the text could change archetypes that it could go into could get buffed or changed. Yep. We've seen that before too. A lot can change before we get to Zorn. So, so I'm, I'm tentative at best.

Cozy Snap: 45:58

So pretty easy, right? It's gonna be, you know, to put them in a search is our number one. Two is

Alexander Coccia: 46:04

gonna

Cozy Snap: 46:04

be

Alexander Coccia: 46:05

cuckoo. I'm, I'm gonna go estimate cuckoo then search. From a power standpoint. Okay. From a power standpoint. Excitement wise, I'm surge one. But in terms of ranking power wise, I think sme, which I'm still saying wrong, probably I think might end up just being better. I don't even know, man. I don't knows. It's so close. It's so close. I actually really like Surge. Should we just put Surge one or what?

Cozy Snap: 46:26

I have Surge one. Esme two, three,

Alexander Coccia: 46:30

I think. Yeah. I'm gonna do Esme one, search two.

Cozy Snap: 46:32

I think I'm gonna go Zorn over Prodigy for three.

Alexander Coccia: 46:35

I even though, okay, I'm gonna go prodigy over Z.

Cozy Snap: 46:38

Yeah, that's probably right. To be honest. Like honestly that's the are dead last, honestly. That's probably right. Yeah. Then the L are dead. Dead, dead last. And then we just got all those, all those move cards. So definitely gonna be an interesting month. May has always been historically a really good month for Snap, like just in terms of what we've seen. They did announce we did get word apparently of a second dinner ran tournament. Did you hear about this?

Alexander Coccia: 47:01

Only fleeting information about it. I think they said, are you interested in learning more? I said, yes. I, I think it was literally like, emote here if you wanna learn more, is the extent of knowledge I have.

Cozy Snap: 47:10

Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I think that's cool that they're potentially going to dive into the, the, the competitive scene and you know, we'll see, we'll see what that looks like. Would love to

Alexander Coccia: 47:20

buddy. I'm super excited about a potential competitive scene. Man. I hope to see you at the desk. Oh, would love to man. Would love to. We would love second dinner. That so awesome. Just to say hello. We got one. We did the Deadpools Diner. Remember it was just all bots and we we're trying to cast and they're like, stop talking about the bots and our ears.

Cozy Snap: 47:35

Golly. Yeah. They're like, don't mention the bots. And then there's like a Colossus plate on turn four and we're like, well Alex, you know, that's a bold move from Henry right there. I'm off

Alexander Coccia: 47:44

camera. I'm like this.

Cozy Snap: 47:46

Dude, they just kept saying, don't talk about the boss. It was so awful and I can't talk about it much. But for those that are listening there's the, did you, did you see rivals with a, with$3 million tournament? No, I didn't see that. 3 million You missed. This dude's the biggest, this isn't even like rivals news. This was like massive, like, just like competitive video game news. I'm

Alexander Coccia: 48:06

under a rock, man. I dunno what's

Cozy Snap: 48:07

going on Co. The$3 million buy, buy the Rivals Team Land Tournament worlds. So they're gonna get every single region best. Best teams, best players. Put'em against each other,

Alexander Coccia: 48:18

buddy. That is incredible. I'll be competing in person. This is perfect. It's just, yeah, right. You'll be

Cozy Snap: 48:24

representing Canada. I'll be rocket raccoon baby. Yeah, Lord

Alexander Coccia: 48:26

Rocket.

Cozy Snap: 48:27

You'll be competing in Canada, man. So it's exciting times, man. E exciting for Snap and definitely wanna see how things continue to evolve obviously with, with more than the Snap pack, do you think? Okay, so here's the deal. This is the only thing that I was a little, like, they were like, and in the future. Archetype specific Creator pacs. How's the alliances going? Weren't they in the future? Wasn't there alliance for, you know what I mean? I, I feel like I've heard the word in the future a lot with Snap and it makes me a bit nervous.

Alexander Coccia: 48:56

You know what I was thinking about the other day, and I know this is not directly answering your question, but I. They haven't released a roadmap in a while.'cause I think the last time they did that did not go so well. So I don't know if we'll ever see one of those ever again. So I think that was a year ago. I think the future, yeah, it is a while, man. And hopefully they get IGN to do the reveal again. That'd be great.

Cozy Snap: 49:14

Oh man. We can only, we can only be so lucky. Only the

Alexander Coccia: 49:17

OGs remember that.

Cozy Snap: 49:18

Goodness.

Alexander Coccia: 49:18

Cozy. We have a lot to talk about today, a full season In review. We're gonna be holding ourselves accountable for some rankings, which honestly, I. Might have I might get cold out a little bit for one or two of the rankings. But overall, I mean, it was a kind of an interesting season this past. And we also got a bunch of series four cards, shadow dropped on us, like the oblivion Remastered edition series four remastered, boom. So we're gonna be talking about all those as well. We got a lot to car a lot of cars to go through here, coach. So we're gonna dive right in. What I'm gonna say here is that there's some hits this season. There are some misses this season. We have Snap packs. A lot of stuff has changed, but what has not changed is the plot Armor of season pass cards. Captain Carter, the season pass card came out. It was performing okay. It was performing simply, okay? It was not great, and it was a forecast. It got moved to a three cost, and now suddenly it's getting a little more life, a little more play. Was that what you expected from Captain Carter?

Cozy Snap: 50:19

Yeah, we said it. We literally said, I think when we were reviewing it, we were like, we don't know how the front row back row thing works, but if it doesn't work well we know one thing, they're gonna buff this card lightning fast and that that they did. And this is one of the bigger significant, like, oh wow, dod, that this really is gonna help where it's played at that we haven't seen. In, in a good amount. Like we, like yoga. Mesh had that huge, like whoa. Which, you know what's crazy? Yoga mesh was released either in June or May last year. We've had that card a year now time's flying. Wow. But you know, with that we saw a very quick turnaround, but it just made it more powerful. Whereas this like quite literally changed the entire purpose ish of the card.

Alexander Coccia: 50:59

Cost reduction is huge, like power changes, whatever. But in a card game with six or seven turns, cost reduction is very significant. And it made perfect sense. And I think it was an admission that the macro consideration of how you play Captain Carter and the positioning that you put her in was too much of a restriction. It was also a for drop that did not wanna be played with Zao. Like the decks just did not, were not conducive with Zbu play. And as a result, she was always a for drop. That wasn't great. So far one of the concerns was if she's a three drop, how does it interact with Moonstone? The interaction is positive to the tune of a, that particular decking, a 53 to 54% win rate on like thousands of games played. But on average, despite the buff on aggregate, captain Carter Post, it still runs a flat 50% win rate at 16% meta popularity. So it's not a mover, it's not a shaker. It's just, it's a card that exists and it's doing its thing,

Cozy Snap: 51:54

it, it plays better than it stats. I feel like at least that's how I, like, I love this. I, I think this is a very enjoyable card to play.

Alexander Coccia: 52:02

It is enjoyable, but when it got moved to the three cost, I. It had its power reduced. It's, yes, you got the advantage of the cost reduction, but the power reduction's a bit of a double whammy on a card like this. It's almost like gladiator, right? When you add one power to gladiator, you're double dipping on what that power that power does. Yeah. Captive Carter's the same thing. It would not surprise me if this card's a three. Three buyer. Yeah, it goes up to three. Three eventually in the next couple months. Yeah. I think they had to, I think it's a three, three,

Cozy Snap: 52:27

I think all their testing they did at four, and so like they, they couldn't. I think going to three three immediately was too risky. And so, you know, they, they went with the three, two at first because they don't wanna go to three, three, it's too good to go back down to three, two, then people are pick you know what, you don't want another ter situation. So and he got, you know, a million buffs or nerves at that point. So I think they did play a bit more safe. I'll take a three, three old day. Three, two. Those is strong as well.

Alexander Coccia: 52:54

Yeah, it's strong, but it's not, it's not high enough, especially when you consider what the season was with the next card we'll be talking about captain Carter in those shells, like you shouldn't see ongoing based shells maxing out at 54% when you have Captain Carter. And the next card we're talking about Goliath, who has been a Goliath for ongoing. Honestly, you're not seeing a single. You're not seeing a single ongoing deck not running Goliath right now. It has a high meta popularity with about 9% less than captain Carter, but also Captain Carter's being played in Surfer, whereas Goliath is not. I think that's part of the, the discrepancy from a popularity percentage perspective, its win rate is 2% higher at 52% win rate, despite the lower popularity has positive cube rate and it is a part of those, the best versions of Captain Carter. Or Agent Carter, Jesus, captain Carter. Our running Goliath, Goliath is seeing play in Thanos shells. It's being played in spectrum shells. It's being played absolutely everywhere, where ongoing is present, spectrum is present and it's crushing, it's doing very well, especially as the two slot. It is the scaling option at the two cost. That that ongoing need. It doesn't quite Moon reach the way like a Mobius does or even a strange Supreme, but it's an excellent card.

Cozy Snap: 54:08

Yeah. It's what it, we wanted from it, kind of like an anchor card, you know the one that's just well statted for where it's at. And we don't often get an anchor cards this, you know, late in the Snap. Right. So like getting these cards that just really just help get the archetype rolling. And then what I said I think a long time ago is like, it's a very. Beginner friendly card. It's a very good card that could go into a wide variety of different builds. Even though it's all ongoing, you know, there's a lot of ways to make it work. So I think Goliath hit about where we expected.

Alexander Coccia: 54:36

Yeah. Now it's worth noting that for for Captain Carter, we came in at four Stars. So the season passed coming at four Stars. We did have some reservations. It probably didn't even quite reach four stars there, but we did both come in at five stars for Goliath. If you consider what it did for that archetype. I think, I think Goliath has earned that, although I would say it's probably closer to a four and a half or strong. Four and a half, four is probably what I would give it. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's not quite a five, like if you consider what five usually means. Right.

Cozy Snap: 55:05

I think Captain Code is a four star card now, potentially as a three cup. You think so? I don't think it even, it's just how it plays. I don't know. I like it. Yeah. What'd you just give it a three? You are not gonna give it a two.

Alexander Coccia: 55:15

I, I would, I would say it's a three, but I think that it needs to be buffed to a three. I think it's a strong three. I think that happens sooner than later. Yeah. I think it's a strong theory,

Cozy Snap: 55:21

but yeah, I, as far as as Goliath, yeah. I think we at least nailed the take that we thought it was gonna be like a very solid card this month that had a, a definite, you we both had it at five. Yeah,

Alexander Coccia: 55:33

we both had at F five. Yes.

Cozy Snap: 55:34

Alrighty, man. So far, so decent. Not, yeah, so far, so

Alexander Coccia: 55:39

good. Now. Next we have kri. Now kri unfortunately is seeing almost no play post infinite, and therefore the stats we have are very unreliable. So untapped based statistics post infinite over the last seven days, she's seeing only a 2% popularity in a win rate, barely over 40%. And so like you're not seeing it at all, like the decks just simply aren't seeing play. What I will say is that KRI actually surprised me a little bit. Like I didn't mind Kri in my, my play and my time with it. It was a card that I was playing in a Thanos, Loki shell. It was very successful in those decks. The shell itself was good. It was a card that I probably started low on, but as I continued to play, I was like, you know what? I actually don't mind this card. Like this card is a card that does its thing. Puts out like mathematically strong power. I think it's deceptive how much points it puts up. I can see why people probably just said, nah, it's not worth playing. It's not needed worth getting. Like it's just not needed. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't sparkly enough, didn't, something was like,

Cozy Snap: 56:37

cool, but it's like,

Alexander Coccia: 56:39

eh. Yeah. I, I absolutely agree. Like what were your thoughts on k? What did we give Kori again? Kori, we both came in at 3.5.

Cozy Snap: 56:49

Ugh. I like three, 3.5,

Alexander Coccia: 56:52

which I think we're on the high end. I think she would, she feels like a A three. She feels like a three in, but she sta, she sta like a tuneup one.

Cozy Snap: 57:01

I, yeah, like I think we're like, where I think Carter is is and where you think she is is like the opposite of, I just have her rated lower. I just, yeah. I don't, I didn't think she was A needed, and B, like I just forgot about her quickly. Like as I continued to play the, well, especially one car, like. We, we messed around with her in Thanos. It's like, well, gee, there's one other card that came out this month that did pretty good in Thanos as well, and that, that ended up being like, obviously the, the, the trade off there. So like, you know, there are cards that we get when they're new cards. They're like the card of the week and then they just gone into oblivion. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And this one is definitely gonna be staying in oblivion for a little bit.

Alexander Coccia: 57:36

Yeah. But for me, it's like, I keep saying this and like this happened with Thaddeus Thunderball Ross too, where like, I actually played the card a lot.

Cozy Snap: 57:45

Because that when was awesome in a assert, like in a, which was crushing, yes. Stupid good meta deck. Like an if, if Devil Dino was going off the charts, man, I'd be playing Kor more, but. We're not there.

Alexander Coccia: 57:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're, you're right, you're right. Like I could have put Colson in that deck and raised Colson's win. Right? Like, I understand what you're saying, but what, I guess what I mean is, is sometimes I latch onto cards because like I actually enjoy playing them and tha is sortable. Ross was a good example. This where everyone like punted on that card, but I was like actually playing it. I'm like, no, it's doing the thing more than you think it is. Yeah. It's better than you think it is, but it's not great. It'll get buffed to a two three at some random OT at some point, but. With Khoi, I think this is a very similar spot. Okay. Where I think it's an unremarkable card that probably is completely fine statistically not worthy of a buff, but also not needing like you to seek it out for instance. Right.

Cozy Snap: 58:36

That's the beauty of staff though, right? Is just finding things that fit personality and play styles and, and then, you know, that happens in several games, but I think Snap is a great, it happens a lot where like. Listen, there are people that are still just like diet, even looking at something like havoc, right? Like some people hate havoc. Alex, I love havoc. Yeah, he likes havoc, so I love it. So it just, it it fits your play style more and you know, we see that with potentially cohort too.

Alexander Coccia: 59:02

I'm pretty sure on Havocs Spotlight Week, I ate rolled for the the spotlight variant.'cause it was one of those like Sebastian Shaw gala ones. It looked so good, man. He actually kinda looks like you, to be honest with you. That, that part particular spotlight looks like you. Okay. Fortis words, this is a fun little fact. I don't know who was completely obliterated playing Kri, but on untapped, if you actually go to, like, to the, the deck, someone was playing 300 games of Kori at a 14% win rate, at a cube rate of negative five. Like, like their eight cubes snapping with Kari and just dying every what? Every Friday

Cozy Snap: 59:38

Smash night. They're just like, you know what I can do? Yeah. Lose some cubes. Let's, let's,

Alexander Coccia: 59:43

let's roll it. Someone hard, donating an infinite, but talk about infinite Cozy. One of the better segues into Infinity Tron, you could have asked for. Wow. By golly Cozy, this card, this is something you came in at two stars, two stars. And somehow that seems high. I came in at three and somehow that seems even higher. Cozy. This card completely fell on its face. And it's funny because when I was playing it, it felt awful everywhere except Surfer. I was like so surprised. I'm like, how is this actually working in Surfer? And I remember texting you, I was like, you're right dude. It actually works in Surfer and then it got buffed and it still is not being played anywhere. Like it's just what a poo poo card, man.

Cozy Snap: 1:00:24

It's just funny how like, I don't know. I feel like. Spider-Man was released today with like, in a, a really bad ability. We'd find a way to cope about it'cause it's Spider-Man and like, maybe he'll be, he'll be good. And so, like, I feel like, you know, you look at like Elixir and you're like, trash one, one star. But like, we wanted to like get this card more. But I, I didn't wanna let my, my personal feelings for how cool the character is affect how good and consistent I think it was gonna be. So I, I, I called it a fun card. It's fun. But it's very inconsistent and if you like losing, it's not fun.

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:58

Yeah, I was gonna say, dude, you, it's not even that fun bro. Like we're just, we're really coping now. Buddy out. It

Cozy Snap: 1:01:02

was cool when it came out. Yeah, it's, it's bad.

Alexander Coccia: 1:01:04

It's a bad

Cozy Snap: 1:01:05

club.

Alexander Coccia: 1:01:05

Yeah, it's running a 43% win rate right now. 43 on tap. So bad. 43%. And that's post buff dude. Like what are we Doing's bad. It's not, it has a 4% popular, so it's not seeing a lot of games Admittedly. The decks are awful though. Like it, it was, there was attempts to play it in hella, there was attempts to play it and just, just, just sucks. It just sucks. Like, I don't know what else to say. I think the key problem with it, and I'll come back to this, I said it during like the, even the OTA spiel I had was that it just, if you're gonna commit turn five to Infinity Ultron, you're also committing turn six to Infinity ultron. Those stones have to carry the weight. Of what a magneto does or what a Doctor doom does, they have to carry the weight of, oh, I'm committing my turn six to playing two of these damn things. They don't do that. There are two of the stones that are complete garbage Infinity. Trons power's fine. The drone thing's fine. Doubling his power's fine. All that's fine, just the move one and whatever. They need to be better and until they're better. This card is absolute garbage. Thankfully, that's a text change away. And they're gonna make that change because I think you don't invest that much effort in making a card like this, even if it's not the season pass card. And having it be as po as it is

Cozy Snap: 1:02:12

a lot of knobs to adjust on infinity char, which is always a good thing for a card, means it has that much better of a chance to get boosted in an OTA.

Alexander Coccia: 1:02:20

Oh, there's no question about it. And that takes us to our next card of the season, which, we both said was our five star fun card, but we, we suspected that Goliath was gonna have a higher meta impact. We came in at four and a half and in our conversation, which I listened back to, we, we basically wanted to give it five stars, but we said we were committing to the Goliath route as being the, the best card of the month, so to speak. So. Shame, shame on us, I guess, but what Act Goth ended up being great for what it's worth, right? We're not completely off there, but Strange Supreme. And I think what really sold us here was the trailer. We, we saw what it was doing and we're like, hell yeah. But here's what's fascinating, Cozy. You have one deck that just got figured out and this, this is a great point you brought up on your side. Actually, sometimes you just need one deck on aggregate in the last seven days post Infinite, you would be surprised to know that Strange Supreme is running a lower win rate. Captain Carter, it's running a 49% win rate at a 20% popularity, but very recently, over the last several days, a Thanos based shell is running a 57% win rate and is gaining in popularity. So next week. We're gonna be talking about Stream Supreme with a very different Sta profile as a particular deck takes hold stream. Supreme is extremely popular right now, and it's just kind of catching its legs underneath it.

Cozy Snap: 1:03:40

Yeah, I was on Twitter and the, I just saw a picture the other day and it's like the Spider-Man, like everywhere I go, I see his face and it's Danson Supreme. It's it's starting to take wind fast, man. Word travels fast in Snap and yeah, that deck's starting to really gain. Gain wind. But yeah, I think, I think strange, definitely Overdelivered, even on the four and a half we gave it you know, just cons definitely proved itself to be great. They got Rhino out there trying to give some a do'em as well. You know, and we, we both thought Enos was gonna be a good home and, and lo and behold, that's what happened. I, it's, I don't know. Does it feel like the overall cards, like all of the cards net together have been worse than seasons of like a year ago?

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:21

Yes. Yes.

Cozy Snap: 1:04:21

I think by far I think there's a lot more duds, bro. Like way more duds. Especially next

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:26

month, man. Next month doesn't look great. Year except for a couple absolute bangers. Yeah. This whole year.

Cozy Snap: 1:04:30

Yeah. I think like it used to be like, oh, I could use this. Oh, whoa. Oh, cool. And now it's like, if you play it here maybe and do this, then I could see, and it does go back to what I just said, it's like, you know, my episode where I said the longer snaps out, the more tight these things get. And it it's, it's tough.

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:48

Yeah it is. And strange Supreme though. I think part of the reason why the win rate is fluctuating is'cause I'm playing against strange supreme players. Yeah. And they're not playing Cosmos. I'm like, buddy, what do you do? Like you can't have a 22 power two drop sitting there. To get, just to get clubbed byers like, you know, it's coming and because some do play some do play Cosmo I'll punch it out early. I don't care. It's often over 10 power by like turn four, you know what I mean? It doesn't matter. Well, but you bring it back with elixir boom than Elix. I was like, bro, you

Cozy Snap: 1:05:18

just, you just made a cell case for Elixir. There it is. Strange Supreme Elixir Day. I cell

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:23

phone, classic cell phone right there. But yeah, I think Stream Supreme's probably ultimately the card of the month. Yep.

Cozy Snap: 1:05:28

No

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:29

question. It's, it's Cozy and and what is not gonna be part of the month. But honestly, I had fun with hydration. Stomper an absolute thirst. Quencher, I gotta tell you you know, hydration stomper ultimately was putting up good stats for me in my testing with, I was regularly getting it to like 10 power, 11 power, 12 power sometimes as a three cost, a 3 10, 3 11. Like, that's insane. But it kind of made me realize I don't like playing move and I don't wanna play move. Every time I play move, I'm like, I don't wanna play this garbage. Like I don't, you know what I mean? I just, yeah, I think a lot of people agree with me.'cause despite its power, it still only has a 13% popularity and it's running just a hair under 50% win rate.

Cozy Snap: 1:06:10

I feel like too, whatever we ranked it was just throwing out the window.'cause we didn't know there's gonna be three new cars That drastically changed the way that that card even played. Like, it, we, we took into account a lot of what we had and there's three new cards that, you know added to it. But yes, I. I see. I like move though. Especially with where it just depends what I'm doing when I'm playing Snap though, you know what I mean? It depends like where I'm at, what I'm doing. If, and most of the time Snap is like a very quick game, right? So it's like a lot of time people don't wanna get in and be like, man, I, you know what I wanna do right now, so I'm calculus. So like that, like that typically is not the, the game that Snap has created to be. I liked him. I think it was, I think it was a I think he went above my expectation.

Alexander Coccia: 1:06:51

He's definitely better than people are gonna think, like give him credit for, he's very much in line with what speed is. Like. Speed is just a very card. Yeah, it's comparison. Good card. That a good comparison is not sexy and that's what hydro, hydro stomper is. And honestly, hydration stomper goes well above what speed's power levels are like.'cause with silk and stuff you're way above and silk is a good static card as a two five, right? Yeah. I started at 4.5, drifted to four. I ended up at four stars. Four you ended at three. I ended up at four, so I gave him a four. And honestly I think I'll, if you're a move player, he feels like a forecast. You had

Cozy Snap: 1:07:21

him at

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:21

two for the

Cozy Snap: 1:07:22

month though, right? I feel, I feel like you had him, you wanted to stick to your guns. Do that. No, didn't Alex Kocher wild take? You didn't. Okay. Alright.

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:29

Oh, no. For the final rankings? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We will talk about that. You want, you wanna just get rid to it? I need to hear it do rankings, what we actually rank things at. Okay. Here's the rankings guys. Alex's rankings for the prior month. Goliath had won Hydra Stomper at two Strange, Supreme at three. Agent Carter at four, Khoi at five, infinity Ultron at six. And dumb dumb Duggan, if you remember him, we actually ranked, I ranked him dead last and he just disappeared, but dumb, dumb was part of the rankings. Cozy Snap came in number one, Goliath. Number two, strange Supreme dub Cozy on that one. Number three. Captain Carter. Number four. Khoi. Yeah. Number five. Dumb, dumb Duggan. I remember that. Yeah. And number six, infinity. Ultron. Dead last. Cozy. I'm gonna give you the no on the dump on this one. Dumb dumb. He's okay. Who? Dumb. Dumb. Where? Where'd he even go? I even got like a notification on my phone. It was like, dumb dumb, just got released into into Series four dumb. I'm like, what are you talking about? They always know, bro.

Cozy Snap: 1:08:39

Toxic doxy too. I hate that card.

Alexander Coccia: 1:08:42

Fun fact. I unlocked Toxic Doxy, played her once, saw the animation, said, that's dumb. This card sucks, and never played her again. Played her. Her exactly one single game. Got a

Cozy Snap: 1:08:49

special spot for her. Right next to King y tree, just right there, just hanging out.

Alexander Coccia: 1:08:53

Lasher two. I'm sure you've played many Lasher

Cozy Snap: 1:08:55

games. I love lasher. You watch your tongue.

Alexander Coccia: 1:08:58

You absolutely lasher's. Probably honestly a good card that no one's playing. I'll be honest with you. For sure. I

Cozy Snap: 1:09:02

think so.

Alexander Coccia: 1:09:03

That actually is a perfect transition into our series four review. We do have a couple cards here that we're gonna bring. Now Cozy and I did not rank these cards nor star them'cause we didn't know they were coming out. We had no idea they were coming out, so like, they kind of just fell on us. So that's okay. So Toxi doxy, we're gonna start with this was the high voltage card. Wanna shut out Second dinner for making high voltage a fun mode. Somehow feel like a grind by making toxi doxy a little too deep to get the fact that so many Marvel Snap players saw Toxi doxy and then decided not to play high voltage because the, there was like, too much grind is crazy to me guys. Make it easier to unlock the new card. Every decision does not have to be about extracting money from the player. This card should have been easier to get. It's garbage. It should just been in everyone's collection. Come on guys. Let's smarten up on that talk Doc, you're running 80, I'm not even making this up. 29% win rate at a 2% popular 29. It's so bad. 29%. It's so bad. I'm not making it up, dude, it's so bad. Post infinite

Cozy Snap: 1:10:01

last seven days. It's, yeah, o that's not that's not what some would consider meta. But what is meta? I don't know if they meta, but what, what'd you think about some of these new cars? Man, they're not bad.

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:13

Yeah, they're not bad at all. Like so let's talk about bat. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna get roasted. I think it's Brock the Leaper,

Cozy Snap: 1:10:21

Brock the Leaper. When a card moves fo in game plus two power is a one two. I love this card, man. As a one.

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:27

I think this is card stick. I think it's awesome.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:28

I think this, I think this is what move needed. It needed something that you can play cheap on curve. That wasn't a reactionary car, like the iron fist move and stuff. This thing could get. I mean this, this is a great one.

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:39

Cost cart fantastic. It's a phenomenal one Cost car. I was getting get to like eight power regularly. Yeah. It's crazy. And not to even mention the fact that Hydro Stomper is feasting.'cause now, like it's moving alongside stuff. Right. Craven loved it.'cause it was like two carts moving into a craven location. It was, it's, it was bouncing all over the police. It was awesome. It was like, it is a great scaling one drop for move. Not that the scream decks needed it, but now it makes sense as to why they actually Nerf scream more.'cause they were releasing, they were shadow releasing Batra Scream Captain America, Sam Wilson both got nerfed so that Batra could live.

Cozy Snap: 1:11:14

If that, if Bera was Ara was a a regular season card, we would've loved it. I think it's fine. Like it would've been a fine series five. We would've been like, okay, but it it's not, and that's what's even better.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:24

Yeah. You know what? I'll give him credit. They released a series four card that like is not toxic. Doy, this is a little legit.

Cozy Snap: 1:11:29

29%. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:31

Yeah. Well, like, let's be honest. Like if, if if Bat Rock, whatever, whatever his fri name is, apparently he's George St. Pierre in I didn't realize that's who it was in the MCU. Oh, okay. So he just did, he did a fight scene with Captain America at a couple points, but whatever. This is a legit card. I think it's legit series four. It's a really fair series four card. Actually, for the most part, the series four cards that were dropped are relatively legit. This card in some shells running upwards of a 55 to 56% win rate in screen-based decks alongside Hydration. Stomper overall running a 51% win rate at a 13% mo popularity. This might be the most impactful series four we've seen in a while. Probably going back to Moby and Mobius. Moby and Mobius probably had the greater penetration, but then it got nerved right away. So I don't know how I feel about that, but yeah. Roc the Leaper is a definite win, and that's gonna take us to Topaz. Topaz is like Zorn, except it'll basically send any card that you play into it, into the middle. Notably, what's important about that, unlike Zorn, Topaz will send Dagger. It'll send human torch. It'll send Vulture, it'll send anything you play into the center that you play. Unfortunately, Zorn can do both. Yeah, Zorn does both. That's right. Zorn has the disruption side. TOPA is only running a 5% popularity. 46% win rate according to one tapped right now, a little on the low end. It made the bounce move decks worse. Those bounce move decks that run Topaz for those interested are running a 48% win rate. They're much higher without Topaz Topaz shells with Heim Doll and Spider-Man 2099, currently cooking at about a 48% win rate. This might be a situation Cozy. Were the decks that we're cooking with Topaz suck. They, they just suck.

Cozy Snap: 1:13:15

Yeah. And I think Topaz is a great anchor card for the future. I think that, like move now and forever moving forward has like a lot of good staples that can really bring it to the next level. It's a bummer that I feel like move. You have to invest in so many cars that have it be a relevant archetype compared to others like patriot or something. But yeah, I feel like. This will age. This is our classic age, like fine wine card because all of these are really, well, most of them because of what can come in the future. Any good move card from here on out, can you utilize that and, and, and, you know, profit,

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:50

this might be a hot take. I really like to paths. Yeah, I do

Cozy Snap: 1:13:52

too. I thought to Paths was

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:53

a good card. I'm not a, I'm not necessarily move player. I was playing and I was like, I, I actually like this card a lot. I tried some cope stuff where I was playing like Topaz, and then I would play so Topaz on three, and then I would play Hercules mid and then like human Torch into the Topaz so it would like move and then bounce. I thought that was kind of funny. The thing I like about Topaz specifically is the fact that it's always going mid, similar to what Grandma does. It allows you to combo with Ghost Spider so that you can reset back in the Topaz location, for instance, and then Heim all afterwards. It was a fun card. I, I almost was while I was playing it. It almost made me think that like, I think part of the problem with move is I don't know if the three location system for Snap just makes move feel like, like fish in a barrel. Like I just wonder if move itself will always feel so unbelievably constrained. Yeah, and I wonder if too much focus on move right now is I have a dagger that's 30, I have a human torch that's 96. Like every card that comes out reaching to the stars makes

Cozy Snap: 1:14:54

draft. Mode less consistent because no one, no one's gonna want move cards in their deck. I mean, like cards that can move. Yes. Move base cards. No, you don't wanna want a topaz in your deck in a draft mode.

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:07

I know. What are you gonna do with that? Like night crawls fine, but Topaz, no.

Cozy Snap: 1:15:11

What do you think of so are you gonna go bat, bat Rock then Lopez?

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:15

For sure. I think Bat rock is, or batra. I don't know how I'm supposed to say this. Whatever. No matter what we say, we're wrong. Roc the leaper is number one, Topaz is clear. Number two. And then we have fan Fay who four seven activate cards in their location. Move. Right. I don't like this card. Would you like, if it was on reveal running of 45% win rate,

Cozy Snap: 1:15:38

would you like

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:39

if

Cozy Snap: 1:15:39

it was on

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:39

Reveal? On Reveal? Good question. I actually think it's, I would like, I think it's okay. As in activate. I think it would've been cool if we moved all the cards, not just the locations cards. Maybe that's too strong. That's just a better heim doll. Yeah, well, no, it's activate Heim doll to the left than Heim doll can. No. To the right. And then Heim Doll can send them left. You've got like a shimmy.

Cozy Snap: 1:16:02

It's way too good for a forecast. Slide to the left. Slide to the right. Yeah, I, I just hate most high cost activates. I think I just end up not liking what they could do. Four seven's a respectable stat line. Don't get me wrong. And you could go well above that, obviously with the move mechanics. It's the one I like the least though. Yeah, I could, I

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:21

could say that the most. Oh, by far it's the worst. Like, without a question, it's, it's not, it's okay, but like, put it this way. I had these cards in a deck and I was playing move. I'm like, I'm not having fun, man. Like, just, I, I have a headache. This sucks. How we doing, man? I could just put, I could take Roc and put'em in a scream deck and just clap cheeks. Why would I do this? Why am I giving myself a headache? Playing Marvel Snap playing fan Fay and Topaz Topaz. Actually, I, I didn't mind, I didn't mind Topaz at all. Pretty syner, but fan fail. I'm like, bro, I just don't wanna play this. Agree. Like, I don't wanna play this card. Yeah. Hard to agree there. He says, maybe it's just not for me. Maybe it's just me. But anyways, yeah, that, that pretty much does the series four cards, Cozy. And that's gonna take us to the Snapchat mailbag, my friend. And there was, oh my gosh, Cozy. There was some absolute banger questions this week. Okay. Banger questions, including one from Effie who said. Why does Alex look like Mrs. Nesbitt from Toy Story? That was my favorite. Cozy. I'll let you explain.

Cozy Snap: 1:17:17

Yeah. Alex told me before we started the podcast stuff, he is like, Hey, Cozy, would you mind if I wore this? This is how I feel comfortable. And I'm like, you can wear whatever you want. And, and now he said, I can't believe. He was like, can I wear this once a month? And I was like, yeah, you can. A like you fly peacock.

Alexander Coccia: 1:17:34

This is all fake news.

Cozy Snap: 1:17:36

Is it?

Alexander Coccia: 1:17:36

There's tons of people that actually don't understand why I was dressed in all pink. That's what's kind of funny about it, because you want

Cozy Snap: 1:17:41

to,

Alexander Coccia: 1:17:41

why are you being so difficult? Let them know that the, the bet that was staged.

Cozy Snap: 1:17:45

I'll explain it guys. It, Alex lost a bet. He is a man of his word. If Alex is one thing, he is a man of his word. And at the time he didn't know it would come full circle. In said bets. But if he was wrong about his Zelda bet about Super Smash, if it was in 64, he would wear pink and the man delivered. And not, not only did he deliver, but he went with an extra salt and pepper on top and gave us the headband. And I thought the Miss Nesbitt thing was spot on.

Alexander Coccia: 1:18:12

Yeah. So unfortunately Zelda and Sheik are not on N 64 Smash Brothers. No. And as a result I had to pay the price and we thought it'd be actually funny to not

Cozy Snap: 1:18:21

say anything and not address it one time while we were shooting last time.

Alexander Coccia: 1:18:24

Yeah. We wanted to go for like the pure everyone. Just be confused. Why is Alex wearing all pink with a, you know, pink flower in his hair? Right. It just iactually think it was kind of funny. But, but yeah, he, I am a man of my word. Just like Cozy would've had to have deleted his channel if I, if he was wrong. But he was confident, damnit, he was confident and he was correctly confident. Michael and his D comes in with a great statement that reads, love the general video game talk guys. Keep it coming. Oblivion and Expedition 33 are incredible.

Cozy Snap: 1:18:53

Yeah. Expedition 33 could win game of the year. I think it's like a, to me it's like a nine of 10. It's almost perfect. Which is really good. Really good for the, yeah, I've been playing

Alexander Coccia: 1:19:01

it quite a bit. When I have a, when I have a chance I'm like, probably four hours in, four hours in or, so I'm liking it. I, and I don't play those types of JPG, like turn based. Battle type things and I'm like old and slow. I don't, I'm not good at paring and dodging and stuff like that, but I'm like legit having fun. Like I'm like this, the story's great. The voice acting really stands out to me as being

Cozy Snap: 1:19:22

How many games in your STEAM library do you not play? Dude, I'd have to look it up. I have like

Alexander Coccia: 1:19:27

1400 games in my Steam library.

Cozy Snap: 1:19:29

That's so crazy. Have you opened Oblivion? I don't play any of'em.

Alexander Coccia: 1:19:32

Have you opened Oblivion since? Dude, I, so what happened was is I got outta the sewers. I ran into one dungeon, and then I just have not played since I knew it,

Cozy Snap: 1:19:41

I knew it.

Alexander Coccia: 1:19:42

Have you been playing? Yeah, of course I have.

Cozy Snap: 1:19:44

I do like one mission a day. There's missions in oblivion. Yeah. You know, I, I wander off, I do what I need to do, and then I like, there's, this guy wanted me to stay in his house because he thought people were breaking in. Ends up at the ship dock guy. Was hiring these guys and they were going in after hours, taking all his stuff. So you stay the night there. They come in, I cut their throats dead. I got some money for it. They only gave me fur top, so I was

Alexander Coccia: 1:20:10

dark, fast.

Cozy Snap: 1:20:11

I mean, that's, that's crazy. That's how I, that's how I lived. But then I utilized the glitch. I was behind the desk. They couldn't get there, so I was just like firing arrows at them and they were like, Hey, hey there, I killed them all.

Alexander Coccia: 1:20:21

You know what? I gotta find out. Like, I dunno if this still happens, but the OG oblivion. You would like sneak behind someone, take him out, and then a guard from like, like 45. Yep. Like, like literally 45 blocks away the name of the law would charge. I'm like, bro, there's no

Cozy Snap: 1:20:38

way you

Alexander Coccia: 1:20:39

saw that.

Cozy Snap: 1:20:39

Get outta here with that. My main question is Mico with his dough. Is it dough like money or dough like Pillsbury? DOH

Alexander Coccia: 1:20:49

pills. It's Pillsbury dough. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 1:20:50

Sounds. It's Pillsbury. Love it. Okay. Great stuff.

Alexander Coccia: 1:20:54

Next question comes from a Ram Bros and it reads A three five Rhino that removed a location would be the best generic three drop in the game. People underestimate how powerful that effect is. Well then so be it. He was bad forever. Make him great. That's my take as well. Make Rhino great. Damn it. Come on. Just I get it, Kate. They want the location variance. Lot of locations suck. I wanna get rid of them. Inception is God here. Cozy is trying to help you. Alex, he's doing the Lord's work. Listen to the man. He won't. And that comes from cyber suit. He won't do it. I don't know why

Cozy Snap: 1:21:27

he won't do it, but he won't watch the movie.

Alexander Coccia: 1:21:29

My wife said she'll watch it with me. I just don't know where to find it. It wasn't on Netflix when I checked the camera. I'll pay for it. Just find it. Just find it. Just find the movie. I think it's on mostly. I saw it on Amazon, but it cost me like$9. I was like, I'm not gonna write this for nine. I give. No, I don't want your$9.

Cozy Snap: 1:21:44

I'll give you$11.

Alexander Coccia: 1:21:46

No, 15

Cozy Snap: 1:21:48

I. I draw the line at 13

Alexander Coccia: 1:21:51

says 13 was the line that That's the line. Okay. I'm gonna try and get to inception and I do appreciate everyone, the 45 comments that did thoroughly explain which order I was supposed to watch. The MCU the best part about that. None of the comments were the same. Yeah, I

Cozy Snap: 1:22:05

know. Classic

Alexander Coccia: 1:22:05

everyone suggested different. Like, I was like, come on there, there was a top voted one that was like, this is the definitive list on what you're supposed to be watching. Somehow already screwed it up.'cause after Daredevil season one, you're supposed to watch Jessica Jones, season one Jones. Yep. And I will tell you that it is, I do remember in Daredevil them mentioning Jessica Jones by name. One of'em was like, oh, I have a, someone who I work with, Jessica Jones. She looking into this you love.

Cozy Snap: 1:22:28

It's a very like stand standalone series you could

Alexander Coccia: 1:22:32

watch. Okay. Good to know buddy. Good to know. And we're gonna end the Snapchat here with one final statement. This one. Many comments on? Many comments on Trevor stated, I never thought I would hear Alex tell Cozy. You clapped my cheeks with the little doggy. I'm a lot. I'm at a loss for words. Truly.

Cozy Snap: 1:22:54

I see. This is like when my nieces say, can I listen to your podcast? I have to tell them no because of you.

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:00

It's not my fault, man. I didn't, I'm referring to the generous magic card.

Cozy Snap: 1:23:04

Generous pup. It was a two, two, yeah, it was good. It was getting

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:07

counters like crazy. That's the little dog. Alex only played magic with me one time. Dig.

Cozy Snap: 1:23:11

And now he's too busy for me watching Inception.

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:14

How? How dare you, you, you, you blame me for not coming to Magic, the gather. And he didn't call me back. Don't invite me to,

Cozy Snap: 1:23:19

yesterday he called me guys on the road and he is like, and I called him back and I was like, I dunno. Five minutes late. He's like, Hey, I'm busy. I'm doing something like, can I call you on my way back home? I was like, yeah, man, I'm here. Never called. He's

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:29

literally lied. You're making this up. You didn't call me back. You said you would. I did call you back.

Cozy Snap: 1:23:34

No, no, no. We talked, we talked on the phone yesterday. Yeah. But then after that I was like, call me on your way back home. Let me know how you did.

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:41

Oh, I didn't hear that part. Oh, you didn't hear? Oh wait, I did. No, you did. Oh, no. I forgot to call you back. Yep. I waited. I actually did nothing the rest

Cozy Snap: 1:23:48

of the day. Just sat on a rock outside on a highway.

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:51

You're like that, that that meme where the guy's like staring at the empty pool, like looking into the distance at the swing set. That was me.

Cozy Snap: 1:23:57

You were the swing set never came.

Alexander Coccia: 1:24:00

Totally. I'm so sorry. I promise to call you. You're not forgiven tomorrow. No, I don't want

Cozy Snap: 1:24:06

you call anymore. Guys, thank you so much for coming to a, another great episode here. We're glad to be here. Yet another month and week for the Snapchat as always guys, tell the next one. Happy snapping.