Khonshu: The New God of Discard | High Voltage Recap & Review | Firehair In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 125

Will Khonshu resurrect discard? What are the best cards in Marvel Snap? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on Firehair? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Transcript

Cozy Snap: 0:00

What's going on guys? And welcome back to another episode of the Snapchat. My voice is to so disregarded, but we head into a cool week with Concho. Fans of Moon Night would know and discard lovers rejoice because he could resurrect the archetype as a whole. We're gonna break him down in what we think he'll bring to Snap alongside high voltage, the best X best cards within the game mode. And a really cool segment looking back at our favorites of all time. Just a fun catch up if you guys enjoy a little bit of nostalgia. We're gonna talk about that all today, more on this episode of the Snapchat. And as always, I'm joined by the one, the only, Mr. Alex Kocha. Hello my friend. Happy Monday. We are back on a Monday, guys. Glad to have you guys all here. Dude, I am coming. I'm first of all dressed in a suit because in just a small bit I'll be casting the grand finals. We're shooting this on the Sunday before, and dude, I can confidently say in all my time being a content creator, I've done a thousand, a thousand plus videos. I've done other events. I'm gassed. I'm absolutely out of it. Like I have never used my voice. More energy, more, I'm on two days in a row of just like all day commentary. And then to go into a podcast straight into the grand finals, bro, I just shot my vocal chords in half.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11

You know what though? I gotta tell you, first of all, I know I keep saying it, but you're doing a phenomenal job and it's great to watch and I've been watching a lot and it's funny'cause like I was watching last night and it was like almost 1:00 PM my time and I was like, man, 1:00 AM cozy. Still ripping it. He's been going for like six hours. And I'm like, and I fell asleep. Right. And you were still going. And what I will tell you though is I was thinking about this, you talked about it last week, about how, like, you know, the competitive scene in sma snap. Oh my gosh, whatever. Yeah. Marble snap. The the competitive scene would be like, really good. And it'd be cool if we had gotten it off the ground and stuff like that. To give you some perspective, watching you cast rivals and watching the pro teams and stuff, I was like, huh. I wanna play some damn rivals. Right. And I've been playing more now since watching you cast than I have like pretty much since launch because it got me back into the scene. Like I was excited about like the scene and I'm excited about the game and I'm playing, I'm seeing pros do things and picking characters that I'm interested in playing. And like it kind of brings you back. Yeah. The competitive scene brings. You back and that's why Think Moral Snap could've used that.

Cozy Snap: 2:10

Yeah, for sure. I thought you were gonna go more on rivals. I'm like, oh man. People literally like, top comments are like, I don't wanna hear Rival talk. I'm like, Alex, opening up with the rival talk. It'd be a great one today. No, listen. I agree, man. It, it brings so much hype and excitement and like, like, it, it makes you wanna be competitive even though you at like such a different ladder of, you know, the top players, you know, even in something like rivals, but in Snap. And funny enough, we have a really cool section today. Sorry guys if I'm a little bit sounding a little on the entire side, but we have a really cool section today talking about kind of like our, our favorite cards of all time archetypes and like time in Snap. And some of that was around when there was kind of like the early heartbeats of that competitive play.'cause it was super cool to see, especially because you see. These people that we look at as some of the top players in the game and what they are gonna bring into a elimination, you know, scenario. And, and I think it's, and actually we haven't even seen truly like elimination scenario stuff that much in Snap and it just brings out the best in people when the backs against the wall. Like, again, not to bring up rivals, but we had a team that was Owen six, so they lost every single game and then they go into elimination round and they, they start winning and they beat one of the best teams. And it's like. It's so cool when your back's against the wall to see that and it pro in eSports scenes create that snap could ever be an eSport, but to even have like a competitive scene would be so freaking cool, man. And yeah, it's been, it's been a lot of fun. And looking at Snap Man, we've got ourselves a, a good one. Even between all the casting while I've been waiting, I got some high voltage games in. You know, cool to have that game mode back. Definitely, definitely try to, you know, I was grinding it to get, to get to get ghost writer made me realize how much I loved sanctum, by the way. That that was just a fun, fun, fun game mode in all and got lots to break around around that. Some interesting news that leaked as well in Marvel Snap China, I think is gonna blow people's minds. Saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw, you know what I'm gonna talk about. And then also, bro, you see this little red mark, right, right here. This is what I love about having kids today. Wanted to make sure I get some time with my son. Before I had a busy day casting, my son was like, Hey, Zach, can I go on your shoulders? Can I go? And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. Get on up. He just decided to bite me today on my forehead, and I was like, you know what? That's just par for the course. Like, just total, just a Did you kid, did your kids go through a biting phase? He's not in a biting phase, but he, he definitely had one, I think like a year ago or something like that. But today he is like, you know what, I'm gonna just try it out. This is the beauty of having kids.

Alexander Coccia: 4:29

First of all, didn't I talk about last week how one of my kids bit my other one? I feel like I might have brought that up at some point. I think so, actually. I think so. Yeah. It feels like a frequent conversation, but one thing I will say is it's, it's actually your fault that you got bit, and I'll tell you why. I know that that your son watches the Snapchat back, and right above your head is a Jeff, the baby land shark, and that Jeff, the baby, land shark, looked like it's about to bite you. And so he's just reenacting what he's seeing on the Snapchat cozy. So this is your fault.

Cozy Snap: 4:56

So we. I think it was the first day I was casting, I saw what the cut was of my, my, my cam, and I was like, dude, I'm gonna, I had this little Jeff and they only gave away these at Comic-Con. I was like, I gotta put this thing right there in the frame. And yeah, that's gonna be a, that's gonna be a steaky that's gonna stay there. But but yeah, it, it's been, it's been a lot of fun. Again, probably some of the most cooked I've been ever, but I, I just, I made a promise to myself that we could not miss this Monday coming up. It was too important. So even with the grand finals. I'm like, no, we gotta get some Snapchat talking. Gotta have some fun buddy today. So let's get right into it. We know what we're talking about over here. Alex, what are we talking about on your side of the Snapchat? I.

Alexander Coccia: 5:31

Cozy. We're gonna be talking about fire hair. We're gonna be giving our review, our thoughts and going through some general ideas and concepts with the card. We'll also be discussing the best cards in Marvel Snap statistically right now. It's always a fun conversation. And as always, our Snapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap: 5:45

I love it'cause you have fire hair. Okay guys, I have fire hair down there because I. First put forehand in review because Alex, when he sent me the topics he wanted to talk about, he put forehand instead of fire hand. And I was like, I just want to just copy and pasta that. But we got fire hand, we're going and people are gonna even know the real name of that card by the time we're done with all this. But yeah, dude, we've got con shoot today and listen I might be cooked right now, but I'm excited about ksu to talk about ksu, first of all, just as a character. I love him. You know, again, really good in the show. Of moon night. But also I think he brings something really cool to discard. We talked a lot about him and what he might be. I think you were a little bit nervous of like the ultimate usage of him and getting him to work when we last talked. Certainly. We'll break him down a bit today. I'm gonna lean pretty high actually on him. I got him as a four star, pretty solid for a couple reasons. But what about you?

Alexander Coccia: 6:38

I've been leaning in the three star range and I'm excited to try him, but I feel like the setup. Is pretty intense, but naturally he's gonna work with with the ghost rider. And I mean, we've had, we have so much targeted discard that's coming into Marvel Snap that like, that should benefit a card like k. But I'm still tentative. I'm still a little tentative.

Cozy Snap: 6:57

Yeah. Let me read what he does. By the way, if you don't know on screen, you're looking at a six five. He does have several, several different forms and we've got'em all today, but he's a six five. When you discard this, return it on the next phase on Reveal, resurrect a card, you discard it to another location and set it's power to five. If you get rid of that, you go up, you go to seven, and then if you do that again, he can go up to 12. He has three forms. Super cool, great concept, and pretty excited to see. So obviously. You know, best case scenario, you're getting 24 power out there on, on a revive, which is insane. It's really good, obviously, for several reasons. I think. Here's the thing about Ka. I think people look at'em and they think we can maybe get a new kind of archetype and things that, you know, create maybe a revival archetype. Can Silver Sam, I finally come back in the picture. Let's look at some of the big value cards like Iron Man looking at it kind of wonky too. We're gonna have to see how it plays out. I know. I. Like Phoenix force is a little weird with setting power. So like, you know, brood is a great example, or Mr. Sinister, these cars we've seen before, but sometimes the reveal happens before the power set. So we don't really know how that's gonna work you know, on, in the engine. But this is why give him a four star because I think he's going to be, bro. I, I seriously think this is going to be. Essentially as close as we'll ever get to the old Chavez dependable, discard that we had. Now obviously the deck thinning, what was is, what was so good about that? Okay. But also, as you would remember, Dracula getting a guaranteed six power or big card to, to get that power from was a huge piece of that deck. I just like him in that mold. Having a modoc on five, potentially having really good place. You have swarm in hand potentially. Apocalypse could be in your hand already too. Dracula could already be on the board. And then you go in and, you know, on turn six that you've got KSU as a 12 potentially for Dracula as a play. Or even better if you get apocalypse and con shoe and let's say swarm at best case scenario. You could then get the boar to a state that you like. You could play the swarms down to max out locations to guarantee con concho to summon in the location that you want to, you're gonna get value almost all of the time out of that six seven's, not a six nine, but six twelves better. So depending on how much you can get him activated. So it's funny, man, I looked at him as a really cool card to do, interesting things to discard, but I like him more in that dependable build because I think that's where he's gonna get his value, building that consistency.

Alexander Coccia: 9:24

Key things that I think is worth noting when trying to build around Kaju. And I love everything that, that you're saying because I was one of the absolute biggest fans of dependable discard. Yeah. And once they changed Chavez, it was never quite the same. And since then, we've seen a number of different versions of, of discard kind of emerge, right? You had almost dependable discard. And then what you had was, you had like the the Black Knight variance. Now you have the bullseye variance, you had the Moon Knight variance, and even to some degree you had the Blackpool stature variance as well. We haven't had this kind quite like not quite right. And what I think I really wanna fixate on with what you were saying was there are some cards that don't necessarily get discarded while allow you to interact with Conche. With something like a Modoc, for instance, proximal midnight. We will generate value on the board but not actually counted as dis as a discarded card. So if you think about your hand on turn five, if you have Ironman proximal, midnight Swarm, Concho, and Apocalypse, right? Of all those cards being discarded, only the Iron Man is gonna be targetable by Concho. And so there's like this multiple avenue of discard targeting. You have what can actually be discarded and enter the discard pile. Yep. And what cards can you use to activate consu and the cards you're discarding.

Cozy Snap: 10:40

But that's what I think is cool about the dependable build is Bec And that's a great point. You bring a great point there because you're not always gonna be able, sometimes you consu iss just gonna be there for the Dracula play. Right. But what I think is cool about that is there is times too where Modoc, right, potentially, or building up to that, you know, you get rid of that Dracula and you're like, oh damn. Right. I mean, bro, the way they changed Dracula cons, you could bring'em back to a, to a to a 12, a seven even. That's the value that you're looking at.'cause discard is a, is a team game, right? You know, you've got more BS getting benefit from it. You get Dracula getting benefit and then everything else kind of cooks together with it. You know? Now things like Proxima as well. And so it's like one interaction is having seven different things build up. And I think cons, you kind of speaks more to that, right? Because you're able to continue to get the ball rolling in several lanes. And we've had problems in the past sometimes with swarm, let's say into APAC drag because you're like. What do, like I'm trying to build up the moria, so I wanna keep the swarms, but then what do I, but now it's kind of like, oh, it makes a bit more sense'cause you have KSU guaranteed to come back. I love the chances. I mean, the chances of being able to get KSU built up goes up way more if you have either him or Apocalypse Now you kind of have two of these win ish conditions in a way. That you can discard early and often, whether it be the lucky blade pole, but also, you know, more specifically obviously the moon night that I think is a bit more of a better chance, or even going back to his first form. I mean, the first Ghost rider has a, a, a shot to get rid of KSU at a six five at that, you know, you got Lady S in there and so you're able to have a much better chance to get him building up. Especially going into that, I think Modoc is gonna be a huge piece to this, and it just. Getting away from the silly stuff that you can do with this card and the Ironman and whatnot. I think that true build is gonna be awesome and give this card a chance.

Alexander Coccia: 12:26

I actually like the Modoc call because I think one of the challenges of the cont, and first of all, when I say three stars, this is like one of those cards where I want to be wrong on because like I. I can see it being incredibly fun for the entire archetype. And honestly like the more ways we have to play snap in like unique frames, I think it makes the game more fun. Right. And like for instance, I had a lot of fun this week'cause I was playing like Thanos for the first time in a while. And I think that bringing back archetypes actually kind of reinvigorates people's interest in the game with Modoc. It solves one of the key challenges for Conchos decks, which is that you have to discard a lot of things to kind of activate the effect. You have six turns in Marvel Snap. This is not the type of deck that's gonna run a magic, so you have six turns. Like, you only have so many opportunities to discard Concho multiple times. Discard a card you want to discard for con's effect. And so Modocs a good catchall where it's like, hey, you get a Concho proc and you get to give it at least something to target with the downside of, well, you discarded, you know, Dracula and you discarded whatever Ironman. You don't know which one you're gonna bring back.

Cozy Snap: 13:33

Yeah. What's cool about it though? And yeah, it, it, I think K helps again, just like what Chave did I. Shu is gonna aid Modoc more than anything. What I also thought was cool is if you look at the cards that would want to you know, Shu to hit, especially Alex in the discard archetype, this is where things get interesting, right? Because first of all, we just talked about Dracula getting up to any of the value, I don't care, 4 5, 4 7, 4 12. Big win. Okay? Dracula's gonna win his lane no matter what most of the time anyway. So good stuff, right? And that's where I'm like, cool. You get Concho down a couple of swarms and you have like a another lane padded up. Dracula should win the other one. But then if you think about it, it's like, okay, there's some other big winners here. Okay? Obviously Meek is, is low powered, cool, you know, whatever. But more specifically, morus. Now there's a couple cool things about Morus here. First of all. I dunno about you, but yeah, playing'em on curve feels great. Like if you get morus on curve, you get'em down. Like I feel my chances have gone up so much to win in a discard deck. Right? But now we got some interesting things. Okay. You had the first ghost writer who he could get rid of Morby. Oh no. Well that's great. You get the two six still from the, the first ghostwriter. Okay. And now all of a sudden you've got Morby in the discard pile that RA can bring back with. Extra power to go into it. So at worse, we're looking at Mobius now as a potential four seven because of the first discard, just to start things out with ksu. So it's kind of all married together really well here. And, and I think that's what's interesting about it. I don't know if Mo moon Knight's gonna make the deck, but you also have these synergy of attacking too. So you've got this kind of two for one thing going on. It's just so cool. And, and discard has always been at its best time and time again. Sure. Hella. But at its, I don't even consider hella discard. Right? At its best I is. When we know what's gonna happen and you get that same dependable result. We saw it with Chavez, they neared it. We saw it with Apocalypse for a while. They had to take him down. Right? And now I think we're gonna be able to return to that in a way that feels fair and competitive. And I think Kasha could bring it.

Alexander Coccia: 15:33

It's entirely possible. Like. I think the thing that like really brings me back to wanting to like Concho, and I think I ultimately, I think this card's gonna be good, is that it has so many different play lines, right? And you, you mentioned like cards like Silver Samurai, right? A card like Silver Samurai has seen almost no play. Now it gets an opportunity to shine again. And you can also consider that on turn three, you can moon night. Which would and could hit Concho while also disrupting your opponent. Silver Samurai will disrupt your opponent and discard something like an Ironman or a Gore or whatever you might want to discard. And Gore's another one I should mention too, because discard has a lot of on reveals just naturally. And gore starts to shine when you have decks where there's lots of on reveals on the board anyway, on your side alone, and you're not really relying on your opponent. So you take the power. And so like when you start to think about the curve, it starts to make sense. You're literally disrupting your opponent every step of the way. Well also on turn five, then you can do a wide discard, activate the cons, you get your swarms out and et cetera.

Cozy Snap: 16:36

Yeah, I think we're gonna see two decks, right? We're gonna see the more dependable kind of less risk deck, and then we're gonna see this kind of. Moon night Silver Samurai into potentially, you know, proximal midnight, you know, and, and that kind of deck with a, like, you want to discard your cards, you wanna play things out there. And, you know, that's where Corvus GLA is gonna come in. We, we gave him a lot of props. I mean, you get corvus out there all of a sudden and it's looking awesome.'cause then you could play KSU without worrying about if you don't get the modoc. Like GLA doesn't really have a bad card to hit in a consu deck. Because you're, as you just said, you know, we opened up the podcast. It's so funny, dude, if I didn't have, I haven't made a YouTube video on any of my channels in like a week and days, and so I, because of my voice, I would be losing you right now for this card because I would get, this is what gets, this is what gets me excited, man, is because you have swarm apac, proximal concho, the list goes on. Wolverine got a little buff and, and now it's like, okay, Corvus, his value is just becoming. Insane three five with the free energy. And then you can really build into that. Not to mention the two discards. And then if you were to discard something, t you's got that revive. And there was always a downside to that.'cause you're not running ghost rider, you're not, hell of us ran at the beginning with it for some fun. But now we've got a card that's actually good that fits into the dependable discard build that can also bring back a mistake. And that is, I remember we used to say this about dependable discard Alex, how. It. It, when it works, it works. And when it doesn't it, it definitely snowballs in the wrong direction. But that's what's cool is that I feel like K Shoe adds the missing piece to make Corvus way better.

Alexander Coccia: 18:16

Yeah. It feels less like a crossroads and more like you have actual decisions that you can make. And to think about Corvus too is once again, going back to the idea that you can effectively design your deck with what's being entered into the discard palm, what's not. One that you could discard that comes back to your hand is scorn. So when you have scorn generating value, yeah, it gets hit with the modoc, with with the, concho now you have seven energy turn six. You could play scoring down, play Concho down and then, you know, revive something while getting the power from, from the scoring. And potentially even if you have apocalypse in the hand, you res Dracula, it hits the apocalypse. Like that's gonna be such an easy win. It feels like whatever you bring back that gets its power set by Concho is likely to win its lane.'cause if it's like an Ironman or a Gore or a Dracula. It's very unlikely those cards don't trade their lane unless Dracula, you didn't draw into your apocalypse. And it got me thinking too, we talk about two drops, right? I had a game like literally two days ago where Morby was like a 28 power card because I was playing bullseye and I had it, I had the nuts, right? And so it's like, imagine, imagine if Mobius was like a card coming in a in a spotlight, cash. How great that card would be. Like what a five star card for discard that thing is, eh? Yeah. And it's an ongoing, so realistically, even if you don't play it on two, you play it later, it's fine. Like it still keeps its value throughout the course of the game.

Cozy Snap: 19:39

Yeah. I mean, we just saw that card coming in, the data mines removed that finally get, we remember going back I two years now, we, we would say, man, every archetype needs. A mobious, you know, needs this card that can really send it over the top if the right things happen. And, and I think potentially that move card coming out, I forgot the name of it, but that could just help move enough because you have something that's rewarding you for the things you wanna do anyway. And that's why I think Mobius just fits so well. I think for fun we can, I. Quickly just look at the, you know, I haven't put a lot of thought into it, but taking over here and look at some of the cars, that Contra could have a lot of fun with the value. I don't think that these are gonna work all that much. Gore was a great option in that kind of Silver Samurai moon night deck that you were talking about.'cause you're already doing all these honor reveals, you're now disrupting. And then you can also have obviously just stupid value no matter what. Like just Consu alone is just, consu makes score a minimum seven. And that's just if those two were played, right? So it's like, you know, you're gonna be able to build him up to, to some crazy stuff. Any other ones that you like in here at the, that low cost? You're like, obviously Iron Man is, is is the nuts. That's pretty crazy. Things that, you know, you could see there, you can't go anything with like Artem Zola. I know there's actually a period of time where people were doing like the the Dracula Zula, you know? What about Meek? Do you think Meek fits into this picture at all?

Alexander Coccia: 20:54

I don't think Meek will make it. And I'm someone who likes Meek and the bullseye discard deck, I had Meek in it and obviously a card that would get above like 15 Power very regularly and also be able to move, which is pretty useful. I like Meek a lot. I don't think it ultimately makes these decks because I think that, how do I say this? I feel like KSU is gonna be a very deliberate build. And I do think though. I do think though it's likely that the best versions of Concho may have apocalypse despite the fact Oh, for sure. That they kind of step on their toes a little bit. Like they're almost at odds with each other. Yeah. But I think with the likes of Modoc and Corvus, gla, you can kind of have your cake and eat it too. With those two I. So I think that one of the challenges we had with discard, especially with traditional kind of like dependable discard, was that if you didn't draw your apocalypse, like you were just cooked, right? Like there was not, you could potentially get rid of your Chavez, but then like the Dracula play made no sense. However, I. Here with Concho, you have a card you wanna play on turn six. That's a discard card that's been discarded multiple times. And so having apo apocalypse in hand as a trigger for that Dracula could be potentially valuable, but also it gives you a plan B. If you don't draw into your concho, you're basically playing dependable. Discard.

Cozy Snap: 22:09

Yeah, it's definitely what I was opened up with and, and, and I agree. I think when you look at the deck as a whole. Meek doesn't make it'cause Blade does. I would rather a chance to get Conci built up early or apocalypse built up early or even worse case scenario. This talking about Corvus gla is what's gonna open up the one drop because you're going have a much better shot now. Like how cool would it be to be able to play Meek on six potentially or something, and then you can move him around with that. With the Conche, right? Or Conche resurrect him. But I would almost rather have Consu played on six. We have Dracula down, resurrects a blade. Takes'em to a one, seven, whatever it might be, right? Blade. Blade, then discards again. Mobius goes up a pock and hand goes up, Dracula discard, and then kind of you snowball from there. That's just such a better line than Meek. So that's where I think probably Blade gets that spot over, you know, pretty confidently over Meek. Not like those two always competing, but that's what just makes Blade so good. It, it is like. It was like the old copy, you know, it's like copycat, you know, you could see you got that snap condition blade at times. You got the snap condition. Feels really good. Works out well. So yeah, I like it a lot. Those are my main talking points on ksu. I think he's got, I think he's got a really good chance to bring back discard in a great way.

Alexander Coccia: 23:25

Those are mine too. And I, I agree. And I think the thing I'm most excited for is cards like Corvus that I've not played in a while. And also the risk of like, you can't just continuously discard Concho, right. Or also the moon will haunt you. Like apocalypse can be discarded ad nauseum. But Concho, once you discard him, once he's at his full moon status. See you later bud. He's just gone. So I, I like the skill cap side of that too, where you just can't be reckless with it. I think that's fun.

Cozy Snap: 23:55

Well, buddy, we'll go ahead and transition now into high voltage and the week of high voltage. I've seen a lot of people, I've seen actually a little bit of mix of everything about high voltage. You know, we'll be a little quick with it. We've seen the game mode a couple of times now. You know, we've seen in my experience. Wanna ask you what Dex you're playing. Obviously opening up with what was dependable last time, talking about dependable stuff, the Black Panther deck. I mean, it's such an easy way to get things rolling. There's this big debate right now on like, do you play tech cards? Is that an unfair thing? I think it's like, play how you wanna play the game at the end of the day. Is there a, is there a moral compass behind it? I'll let you guys decide. So I was doing a little bit of that, but man, I was just sticking with a lot of patriot.

Alexander Coccia: 24:37

They got rid of they got rid of Elias. Damn. They got rid of damn, damn it. Right. I think they made the right choices. Like it's kind of, you know, it's not very interactive. I honestly, I've been playing some patriot too. It's been fun. Patriot tron, like Tron just gets so much value'cause it fills the whole board like effectively within three turns. Right. It's, it's actually really awesome. And I've been playing, there's one card that's been in all my decks I've been playing. That's moonstone because I've been playing the Patriot and I've also. Also, I've been playing just straight up spectrum with Nour. Yeah. Listen, the, I know last time I got made fun of on this very podcast by yourself and the comment section, because I said that Nour was a legitimate card. It's your favorite card of the month, Alex Turks. I played it more. I played it more, and I was streaming on Twitch drops. Thousands of people were watching me. I was crushing with Nir and I, I said it a million times, man, the card is good in this mode because you have limited turns, it puts up huge value and you get to disproportionately reach into those locations. Easy dubs,

Cozy Snap: 25:37

bro. I find it so funny. I was, you know, when I was commenting commentating rivals, I was watching you Nir. If you guys don't know, don't keep up with it. Nur is really good in that game. He's, he's just extremely solid hero. And I was watching Nur, I can't even find him on the stupid thing. I was watching him and I was like, man, it'd be cool to have Nur in Snap. And then I was just like, oh, oh yeah, he's in the ga Like, bro, I, I, he's so bad. I forget. He's in this game at, at all times. But yeah, you're right, dude. Spectrum has been doing good. I mean, spectrum has been a, a, a, a, a solid build, Sarah kind of making the way. Have you been playing Sarah in that?

Alexander Coccia: 26:11

No, I haven't been. No. Sarah. I've seen

Cozy Snap: 26:13

Sarah. I, I wanted get somebody who had Sarah and I was like, oh, wow. That was a, like, there's just so much momentum from that, bro. You know what has been cooking? Is is Star brand decks, bro. The Surey it, it just works really well in high voltage because you're able to quickly get the Wombo power combos out and then all of a sudden, you know, star brands kind of con is like not as big of a deal. And because what did we talk about? That deck suffers so bad from so on. And that, having that contention, but when you have all that energy, it just doesn't matter'cause you're able to get, you know, have your cake and eat it too. So if you haven't played playing Surey, probably even without Star brand, hasn't been bad. I.

Alexander Coccia: 26:50

That's hilarious. It's funny'cause like I actually did do some Surey Nimrod, but I didn't have Star brand in that deck. I should have, man, I want, oh man. I wanted to love that card so much. I'm still hoping. I'm still hoping there's an OT that brings Sarah onto to a tutu. That's what we talked about then. Star brand's. Unbelievable.

Cozy Snap: 27:05

It's what solved the problem for that deck I got when I was playing and I was like, oh, this is just the problem. It's just that you. There's not enough turns to get the value of what you need and energy to go around. Yeah. And that kinda like solved that problem. So that was really good. We're seeing, honestly, bro, and I knew we, we, we would see this at some point. We're just seeing like, just good cards, just get put into one deck. Man. I, you know, I've gone against i I relentless amount of just like aga Motos, iron Patriots. I've seen those cards 5,000 times. Most new season pass cards, of course we're seeing, you know relentlessly in the new game mode. And then fricking Falcon Captain America Falcon is, is just still doing his thing in that game mode.

Alexander Coccia: 27:40

I know it's the, the season pass cards, as we discussed last week have been pretty prevalent. But I have to be honest with you, like just a overall recap and review. I, I like high voltage a lot. It's fine. And I feel like I'm seeing a lot of different decks and I feel like I'm bringing a lot of different decks. And even when I have missions that are like spend energy and play drops, like, well, I'm building a deck with only six drops. I put literally wave. Luna Snow and all six drops have finished my missions and I'm like, perfect. I feel great right now. Winning, losing, doesn't matter. I'm getting, I'm working towards Ghost Rider, which I hadn't unlocked yet. Despite the fact I've been playing quite a bit. You can get'em from like airman stuff. I had someone on the first day hit me with like one that had a crackle on. I was like, buddy, what is going? And I realized it was an A from card, but, man, I'm, I'm glad high voltage is there. I do find it interesting though that they released it this week, not next week.'cause usually it comes out on the last week. Yeah. And it's only one week, not two. So I don't know what like information they're getting. I would rather, they do like two weeks and because like if you miss some of the rollovers of the missions, you won't unlock the card for free. I'm not sure. I love the idea of Marvel Snap having like an aggressive, like, you want a free card? Well, we're hooking you baby. Yeah. I think you gotta play our

Cozy Snap: 28:49

game. It could be that. It could be that. I don't know if they know they can get the players. For two weeks, right? Like how many people can consistently with no bots go into that game mode?'cause if you already have the rewards, right, how many are gonna go back and just keep whatever, right? Like that might be the reason. But yeah, I do agree. I wish it was longer. It feels like, like sanctum felt like a great amount of time. I feel like that went on for just, just long enough. And this is what makes Snap great.'cause the core gameplay is that good. It's that good that you get these limited time game modes and then it just adds that much more to the game. And speaking of that dude. You guys joke all the time. We've seen comments from, we're not getting draft mode. Stop bringing it up. We bring it up every episode, and then, bro, I'm scrolling Twitter. All right. It's nothing but eSports right now. On my Twitter, they're listening. They know I'm doing it, I swear. And then I just see this tweet that Marvel Snap China is getting draft mode, and I'm like, ah, it's just whispers. And then I saw screenshots and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're actually getting it. Bro, that pisses me off. Like I, I honestly, like, I get that they're, they're, they're, it's cool that they can maybe trial it a little bit, but I'm like, there's no shot that we've had it snap for two years. They know this is what the players have wanted and I would assume a good about, and then it's like they got it first. We don't know anything about it outside a couple screenshots. It looked kind of cool with some of the design that they built. But hey, this could be the step to getting it as a limited time game mode.

Alexander Coccia: 30:13

You know what crossed my mind when I saw that screenshot, I was like, who's developing this? Is it second dinner? No, I haven't. Did second dinner make this or did someone else do it? Did like someone from new, like, I actually am curious'cause like full disclosure co like, I don't know about you cozy, I know nothing about this. This was a total surprise picture like. Yeah, exactly right. And I was like, man, from my understanding, it sounded to me like there was no, almost no hope that we were gonna get a draft mode at all. Then all of a sudden, there's a screenshot of it. I feel like I might've caught wind of it eventually, and I get to like, you know, play surprised on the camera. But no, I've legit surprised what is going on out here, man.

Cozy Snap: 30:47

I know, dude, you got the, like the Thanos gauntlet on top and everything, so, Hey. Let them figure out what works, what doesn't work. That way we get a more polished product. We're almost always the Guinea pigs over here in the States. So it's cool to see kind of how they're gonna handle it, how it goes, how it works, and then they can maybe work out the kinks and then even better if it's not second dinner, doing the principal design.'cause I think they have another dev team working on the game because second secondary is the produ, right? They, they don't, they, they have a d different dev team on the game. It's like, dude just has to copy the homework. You know? If it's not, then just be like, Hey, great, you guys made it work. Can we just, can we just do that? Bring it over here, get the coke, can we copy pasta? You know, that'd be cool to see. But anyway, awesome to see it excited. If that means we could get it potentially by early summer, maybe a little bit later. We've talked about it before. If it's not a full game mode, even having it on rotation with high voltage and sanctum. It's cool. That's gonna be, that's gonna be legit, man. So excited for that. As we head into our last subject, I can hear my vocal chords begging for life, but we gotta talk about. Our favorites of all time. I thought this was such a cool subject. We talk often about, you know I mean, on your side we're gonna talk about the best cards, but we talk about like our favorite cards of all time. You know, we've talked about a lot of that. But I wanna take a look back and Alex and I have prepared zero notes for this. We are going off the top of our heads, which I think will make it fun. Maybe a bit more genuine. Alex, I'm gonna ask you a couple of just like questions and how to answer it. Just go with what you feel we gonna start with. And I think, funny enough, I could do your, I feel like I could answer yours for you on some of these, but looking back, what is out of every single thing we've seen in Snap Your all time favorite archetype that you would have to pick? Silver Surfer. No question. I knew it. It still is. You still play a lot of it.

Alexander Coccia: 32:39

Yeah, I do. I love Silver Surfer. I think it's because it's like, it's like a pizza. You can eat pizza every single day for the rest of your life. You just change the toppings baby. That's it. I like it. Silver surfer himself, he's the dough, right? Am I gonna do some you know, skill monger nova gameplay? Am I gonna do some Sebastian Shaw, KO Akia? Am I gonna do some copycat? Am I gonna do some Hope Summers and some abs, man? Am I doing Sarah, am I doing the Gwen pool? Am I doing galata? There's so many different versions of Surfer. You can play that deck a hundred times over and every game will feel a little different. I love it. And the three drops have so many tech options, so many tech options. Like if, oh gee, I can't get, I just, I can't get over it. I love, I love it. I just love it. I,

Cozy Snap: 33:25

I put my prediction for you and it was surfer, so I'm one for one. So far, I'm gonna go with Patriot. I, I think, even though I may not be playing Patriot all the time, I think that at its core value, like, I remember when I first was getting into like looking at Commander for Magic, I was like. That was where I went first. Like what do I Jordan snap the most? And I was like, how do I translate that over, you know, to magic terms? And I was like, it's patriot like that. If I were to look at the, the type that I play the most, the way that I just like getting the value out of it, the dependency of it, and just the, honestly it might just be the, either the free to play MVP deck looking at the entire time of snap. Like it's just always had its kind of role in the game. Obviously that big buff to old Sean helped so much, but that was my easy answer. Did you think I was gonna go with Patriot or something else?

Alexander Coccia: 34:07

I was gonna say surprise altron, if I had to guess. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 34:10

Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much pager, right? So, okay, next step man. And this is kind of interesting and this, I think this one is actually hard. I put card of all time, so it could be at any era, any time, any place.

Alexander Coccia: 34:21

It's easy. Now, obviously Silver Surfer, I'm not gonna include because I do love that card, but there's one specific one from a design standpoint that I've always loved and it's captain Marvel. I've always thought the design of Captain Marvel is just ingenious. I love the idea that Cap is the one that could, like I. Just win the game for you. I think it's a little awkward having multiple Captain Marvels out. I wish the AI was a little better at how it handled it, so like, like moon girling it, like Zao Moon girl into multiple Captain Marvels. I wish they did the math on like how to actually win, not just take turns guessing on how to win. But yeah, for me it would be Captain Marvel.

Cozy Snap: 34:54

I had a hard time. I was going between a couple. Obviously like, you know, I, character wise, it's like, it's Colson, right? Like obviously, and like how you get to play it and the value out of it and the fun that you get. But I think I'm gonna go with like, what I actually enjoy playing on a consistent competitive level. It's between two man. It's, I think I'm gonna go with Legion. I, it's, it's, it's funny it's Nico and Legion for me. Like those are the two, like, it's so close to Nico because of just. She's at every, it's, it's where I start with a lot of my decks, but Legion, I just feel like Bro has just always been that card. It's always been a game. Flipper always been good. It's chaotic, man. It can win you games. You're not supposed to win. And so I think I'm gonna go with Legion for mine.

Alexander Coccia: 35:40

Your wife, who's are an absolute shambles right now. I

Cozy Snap: 35:42

know, I know. I wanted to go, I, I wanted to go aro. Hey, aro Colson, they've got a place. Irreplaceable in my heart, but I'm going with like playing. It would be that Colson's close though. Colson's very close.

Alexander Coccia: 35:53

You really coped hard for a long time with Gene Gray too, but like, I guess she just let you know maybe it was gonna work up. I

Cozy Snap: 35:59

think I said like on one podcast, I liked her and ever since Alex is just like, he's just, you know, he's made me this big Gene gray, gene gray at, I think I liked her. Like, you know, a couple, a couple weeks. Hey, it's fine man. We've all had our flinks. Alright, you've had your fair amount over there. You, I mean, you're a devil dinosaur guide for. For a long time. And then that, that, that, that crashed fast, man. He hasn't been played in a decade. Listen, this is an interesting ba favorite season of all time. Season pass ever.

Alexander Coccia: 36:30

Ooh, that's actually art. I know. It's a tough

Cozy Snap: 36:32

one to think

Alexander Coccia: 36:32

about.

Cozy Snap: 36:32

I'm trying to think too.

Alexander Coccia: 36:34

You know what? I'm just thinking right off the top of my head. I went towards Hope Summers where I felt like that was a really fun season, and I liked that Hope brought something new, but it didn't destroy the meta, but it like added new types of archetypes. It improved surfer ironically. And I just, I just liked it. It felt like a great well-balanced release that everyone just appreciated. That's what came to my head right off the rip.

Cozy Snap: 37:03

I like that. No, and that's the answer I want. Like I, for me, I actually think. I think it's the I think it's the high Evo season. June of 23 I believe it was. Right? Yeah.'cause Snap came out in 22, right? So this would be 23'cause it was high Evo iron lad, which was just so fun when it came out. It was so different. And then living Tribunal, I think High Evo was just such a cool welcome to the game. And remember the hyper on that and just like. We couldn't believe he was gonna get in. And it res, it made cars relevant. That sucked for so long. Like that was just such a cool season. And I think it was just like hit after hit. There's a lot of seasons I could put close up there. I actually like the Loki season'cause of how stupid chaotic it was. Like it was just nutso. But that, that's gotta be mine.

Alexander Coccia: 37:44

Yeah, no, I'm trying to think of other ones too. And, I mean for me, I think the Zbu season like Zbu came out and the season sucked. It was, I was gonna say though,'cause it had the absorbing man spider Spiderman stuff that was going on. But like, but Zbu completely changed the way turn six was played because of the fact that you could shunk Q plus value. Did those four drop those four? So, no, I just take it back. It wasn't my favorite. It was not my favorite, but I'm just thinking like in terms of upending the way Snap was traditionally played, that was one of the seasons that did it.

Cozy Snap: 38:13

So I love that you just said this because my next question of all of this was period of Snap. So like the period of time where Snap was your favorite. And I legit have in my immediate head is January to March, 2023 because you, we exited our first kind of hard balance patches of of December. And what we had, we went into a time that was like. Insanity. There was so many decks that were good, dependable, discard at its finest. You know, dark HOK just came out and people were still like, experimenting with that. Thanos was on a huge rise. The competitive scene was fresh. The new cars felt super impactful and fun. That might be the best. I, I could easily go back to beta in the first release date, but that if I'm not picking that, it's gotta be that, that period of time.

Alexander Coccia: 38:56

I like it. I like that a lot. And it's funny, you said like going back to beta, the first thing that popped into my mind when you mentioned that, I think it was the moment when I realized I actually loved this game. And it's like the reason why I keep playing it to this day. And I remember I was like, I was making Dota two content at the time. I said, you know what, I, I'm not enjoying this game the way I, I used to, and I've been playing Marvel Snap, which I got randomly into the beta in months after everyone else did, right? Like, like banks and TLSG. I was watching their videos, right? They, they had literally been producing content for the game, and I was waiting to get into the beta. And I remember playing and being like, I actually love this game. This game is so fun. So I started streaming. I remember streaming for like, literally the day before the release. I, I can bring receipts if I have to. I had an average of like three viewers. On my twitch. I was wild. And you know what the problem was? I loved it. I, it didn't matter. It did not matter. I loved it. And then I think the period of time, which really stands out to me was that launch window when I was like, I, I worked really hard. I, I had a, a plan, I had like a hundred videos already pre-planned, and I did my absolute best on that launch window, and it worked. For me, I was like, oh my gosh. Like I might actually get to play this game that I love in front of an audience loving you. Yeah. Like it was, it was wild. And then like that's when we got introduced to each other. Believe it or not, remember I rated you on stream? I rated you because I remember bumping into your videos and like loving them and I rated into you and then while you were live, I remember you saying, Hey man, like we gotta have a conversation. I actually, you bumped into my videos too. We had very similar energy. And that's like, that's what kicked this all off. Like very like, so yeah, that would've been my favorite period for sure.

Cozy Snap: 40:36

Yeah. It's funny, for those that don't know, I, I've actually seen, so the kind of the, some of the lore, the Snapchat, I mean, it's both of our babies. But like I was sitting there, me and Alex, you know, Alex and me were becoming but we were just talking briefly, like we were talking between each other, just like, Hey, we match each other's energies. It's great. And then I remember, I want, I knew I wanted to start a podcast. I did some very small podcast for Pokemon Unite, and I was like, man, I loved that. And immediately getting to know Alex, I was like, this man is just like, I can already feel his, like my brother. Like, I could just feel it. And I was like the, I immediate, I, I was talking to my wife, you were streaming at the time and I was like, I'm gonna approach this man that I don't know at all and see if you start a podcast with me. I remember we would go and I was like. I think I want to call it the Snapchat. And there's a couple of, you know at the time there were a couple hosts I was looking like molt. I, I looked in the mole, I was thinking and I was looking and I was like, it's gotta be Alex. It's, I just, I, and I've never ever thought about looking back because of how immediate fun that was. Like immediate. I was looking forward to Sundays and those videos sucked. They were not getting views like, bro, that was a time in Snap where I was experimenting with content. Doing like different stuff and it would like tank and this was tanking and I was like, I don't care. Like, it's just so much fun to do and it's been so fun to see two and a half years later we've been able, and why we still do it, I think is because of how, how, how now, right now, sound excited'cause my voice. But you know, I think that was just a pure moment for me that I knew immediately. You know, they call it you love of your life, you know, love. At first, it's like I knew immediately the connection that we would have, you know, right off the bat of just like friendship, you know.

Alexander Coccia: 42:13

It's absolutely true and it also goes to show you how like, meaningful this, this is the podcast, but just the opportunity to collaborate with each other. Because I'll be honest with you, if it wasn't for you, I, I, there was times during this journey that I might have, I might have given up, I might have, I. You know, hung up my skates as they like to say. And you powered me through those things, like those adversities, like you were the shoulder I cried on, you were the person that lifted me up the wing, the wind beneath my wings, as they like to say. And that only happens because we've, we've, you know, we've been working together so long and, and it's more than just like coworkers, like we're friends. Like, and you know, and it's, yeah. I don't know. Awesome. Thinking back to that time is just. It's different because I, I just, I remember admiring not only your energy but but your talent, but most importantly, your loving the game and love for content creation. And I've said it so many times before, the idea that you have continuously gotten better in a way where I didn't think you could ever actually improve. It's actually made me realize that like, hey, if I just get 1% better every day, 10 videos later, it's 10%. You know what I mean? And that's a noticeable visible difference. Yeah, this has been, it's been an incredible journey and it's crazy how it starts with that, that that seed that we had, that original interaction where I think we both knew that we could go the distance together.

Cozy Snap: 43:31

Absolutely, man. Just fun, fun to reflect, fun to look back at it. We're gonna close things here with one final question to you, and it is, what do you think was the best deck you've ever played to you? Not the best deck in Snap. Alright. But what was the best deck for your favorite deck to play?

Alexander Coccia: 43:47

I think the bullseye one i, I cooked recently is closed to my most metal. Metal. Like yeah. Terms of like meta impact, I think. But if I had to go all the way back, the one that I think was my favorite cook, the one I had the most fun was during the, I made a surfer deck during the X-Men unbalanced event. Remember the unbalanced patch?

Cozy Snap: 44:06

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I remember that deck and that. I remember that. Yes. And that absolutely

Alexander Coccia: 44:11

crushed. And I remember like it's Silver Surfer, it's like top of the meta and it's my baby,

Cozy Snap: 44:16

and I loved it. I feel like if they were to nail the, the marketing, the ui and just like the announcement of unbalanced patches, those were so fun, but they just like, it was too quick. People didn't know they were going on. People would go on like, you know what I mean? There's a couple things that they had to fix about it. But I think it was a great thing going on. Obviously mine would be rocks and hawks just because of like the pure lore of it, but also, bro. I think the best deck I remember playing like where I was playing it, I was like, this, I feel like I'm cheating. Was the original death wave? Was she Hulk? That felt so busted on every single level, and I remember just thinking like, bro, I'm like, I. Just cleaning up with it. Like people who weren't playing that I felt,'cause we had beta car, like we had everything and I remember people didn't have access to it and it was just like, it felt like I was cheating, bro. It was so good. It probably was cheating at the time. I mean, it was insane. Or the early Sarah Miracle was just cool. It was just cool to play at the time. Very different at, you know, at its peak and at its time. But listen guys, so much fun to go through some of this. This is a topic we'll bring back every now and then. Just wanted to talk about it with Alex.

Alexander Coccia: 45:15

Cozy, we're starting with a bit of a different look today because we last week discussed magic, the Gathering Commander. I'm out of breath. I just was like running around. I just realized like I'm trying to talk on camera, man. Sometimes it's just busy in this household. What can I say? But not busy enough for me to go to pick up. My quick Draw Outlaws deck, which was exactly what chat had suggested. Thank you to everyone in the comments. That was like, Alex, I saw that you want the outlaws of Thunder Junction. The best Commander deck available for that is the quick draw one. That's what I got apparently. Lots of interest in cozy and I, and perhaps a couple friends playing some some magic. We might just have to get that going someday.

Cozy Snap: 45:53

Yeah, like, what's it commander at home? We could do it. We could been broad on it and everything too. Yeah. Funny enough, just the other day, my brother was here.'cause I told you guys went to Disney. By the way, if you're watching on Alex's side, first voice is blowing out. So a little quiet today. But I, we were playing the jump. Just me and my brother went to a car shop. We picked up like three jumpstart packs, man. And we just like ripped them, shipped them, and started playing. And it was just so, I love. I just love that. It's just so fun, man. Just like immediately jumping in, playing right away. Super welcoming. And if you played, if you've never played magic and you played snap, it's so, it's not one for one, but it's pretty easy to understand, like it's very easy to get into it.

Alexander Coccia: 46:31

I mean, the cards are way more complicated. Like some of'em have actual paragraphs of text. Yeah, for sure. Of the snap single line type thing. Yeah. But but no, if you've been playing card games, then it's a very natural transition. And to some degree, like I feel like L Khan is really good in that sense too, where it's like, I. The, the cards are much more straightforward. Magic does have a complexity to it, but that complexity is also part of the beauty, I think. It's been a while since I've like really gotten into magic, but anyways, again, we start every episode just completely off off kilter with the, with regards to the topic. But I just wanna showcase that, and again, this came directly as recommended from the viewership because I had said like, I'm not sure which Commander Deck to get for this particular set. And this one by far was the most recommended. So I'm looking forward. To doing that there. Now cozy, we gotta talk about forehand. Fire, hand, fire, hair. You know, it's not your fault, man. Like her hair is not on fire. Her hand is literally engulfed in flames. Like look, the proof's in the pudding on the screen there. So fire, hair, you know, fake news, definitely fire hand. We're gonna be going with that for now on. This is a card that I have a very complex relationship in this first week with, because I went like my Destroyer Nimrod package. My Surey destroyed Nimrod package. And although it took some setup, I think it was, it was a natural fit there. Sometimes it didn't carry the weight that I wanted. It wasn't like an oppressive combo play the way it could be with some other stuff, like, you know, in with the misery mill type stuff. I think statistically. This is one of those cards that might look like it's weak right now, but the stats are not something you can rely on. I think that this might be a card that does really well in the future. We just don't have the decks right now.

Cozy Snap: 48:11

Yeah, I mean, look at misery and when misery came out, misery got some bust, but misery was awful when it came out like really bad. And then we saw even in some like tournament stuff, people starting to play it a little bit more. And I know when I did a video with Dexter, it was like two Ns Pro. The pro decided to play misery the whole time and is like, wait a second, right? I think fire hair fits that mold, but also even more so we highlighted it last week, a lot of cards coming out to help this out. And you have two things at once you have any destroyed card that comes out is that can destroy, is gonna aid fire hair in the way that it works naturally, but then also. Essentially any auto reveal has the potential to massively increase her value as well, especially low cost ones right before the four hit. So she has a tremendous future

Alexander Coccia: 49:00

ahead. Right now she's running a 47% win rate on aggregate across all the decks on according to untapped post infinite. That's not good. And most of the time when you see like a 47% win rate, you're like, man, this car needs something. Then we start spinning, oh, you know what's this? Buff does an extra point do it. But with fire hair. You have two cards and like Elixir Kid Omega immediately potentially coming out that could benefit an archetype that has fire hair in there, right? Like this card just needs more cards to synergize with. But not just that, the cooks have just been all over the place. Right. And the highest cook right now is a 53.4% win rate deck. And that's actually the beta Ray Bill Thor package with Lady Jane Foster and Lady Death Strike. That is using fire hair to obviously repro the the hammers and the breakers. But it's fascinating to think that like that's not even a very natural synergy. Like that was just a really inventive cook. Once you get Kid Omega and some of these other cards in the future that will directly potentially synergize with fire here, then, then she's gonna take off, I think.

Cozy Snap: 50:08

Yeah, that sounds like a cook we would've come up with as just like. Coming up with super unique synergies, like as we're 50 minutes into the Snapchat on the, on the new card it, and, and I plot it. I think it's, it is, it's solid. It works. You know, you have two cards that can just hold down lanes by themselves and then you could just supercharge that over and over and over and, and snowball. And again, that's a great example of if Thor and Beta can be good. Right with fire hair, those are just two on reveals that do their thing. New on reveals that come it. They just have a significant chance to definitely wanna be paired with fire hair and that kind of unique play style.

Alexander Coccia: 50:45

And you know what? This is actually as well a really good example of why in review videos when talking about new releases, especially the first impressions, the recommendation is always that you wait until Monday or Tuesday morning before deciding whether or not you're going to invest your harder earned resources on a new card. This is a great example. Right. My kids are hammering the floor above me. That's okay. We continue onwards with the Snapchat. Fire hair is a good example as is Star Brand, where Star Brand on paper looked like it was gonna elevate so on and we're like, okay, is it gonna be enough to bring Sour onto that next level? Star brand was definitely an improvement to that archetype, but that whole archetype as a whole did not elevate and as a result, if you kind of full mode into Star brand, you would've likely regretted it. What you needed to have done is wait and then see, okay, well if Eron gets buffed or if that deck gets another piece, then now I can invest the tokens or whatever to kind of build that out. Fire hair was similar except the opposite. Fire hair came in and honestly, my first impressions were very positive. I could see what the card was doing. We both saw the potential in it, and I think that that still remains, despite the fact that the win rate is relatively low. However. At the same time, this is a cash where you have Cassandra, Nova and Nico. So if you're someone who is rolling keys and you ended up with Fire her, Cassandra and Nico, that's an absolute dub like you need to be cheering because there's gonna come a point in time where this card is gonna be worth its weight in gold it. However, if you already have Cassandra Nova and Nico Fire Hair is a great example of a card that I think you can confidently. Once the week rolls out, you pin it in your token shop. And then when Kid Omega and other synergistic cards come out, you're, you have it there, you have it ready, and you could commit those resources if necessary, because let's be honest, fire hair, according to today's review and the statistics we have available right now is not performing like you might have expected. I still do not think that it's worth sleeping on. I think this is a good card. We just haven't figured it out yet.

Cozy Snap: 52:52

I think you said a lot there that rings true. I think a couple things is, first history repeats itself. We've seen the devs favor archetypes and or card releases and you know, I think so, I'm sure is a great one. That's not one they go back to a lot. You know, we, we, we only get something every now and then once a year if that, to help that archetype out. Right. Fire hair, on the other hand has plenty behind it. Now I think it was cool because when she, she came out, it's kinda like grandma and it was like, hold on, is this just gonna be fun? Is it gonna be good? But even with grandma, we knew'cause of what he did, there's so much synergy with him down the line and it's gonna be the same, you know, with fire hair. And so I think ultimately if you just enjoy the play style there, the people who won the most are the ones that probably started playing Snap. Not new, but like six months ago.'cause most people are gonna have Nico and Cast, dude. I mean, come on. We're so far into it at this point. However, kind of that mid-range zone of joining, man, you hit the lottery'cause you get all three. Like let's say they don't have Yeah. If they, if they don't have any of those, that's just like big time hits. Right. So yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm high up on fire hair. I think she's ultimately gonna settle into. Until Elixir and them come out. But ultimately is like, you know, the Phoenix force, the, the, that, that whole like, it's a, it's a different type of way to play, which is really cool, but also destroy most popular archetype in the game that's gonna continue to cook. And there's gonna be more cards to help that out. So if you're a Destroy fan, I almost say grabber just because of what's gonna happen there.

Alexander Coccia: 54:22

If you're on the fence, if you don't have Cassandra and Cassandra and Nico, I think it's worth rolling. I think this is one of those weeks you can,

Cozy Snap: 54:28

yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 54:28

If you have Cassandra and Nico again, I think it's a pin pin and wait and see, and I think it's gonna ultimately surprise to the high side. This almost reminds me, you know what this reminds me of while you were talking, I was thinking about it. This reminds me of Agent Venom we're on the onset of Agent Venom. The decks were just not good. They just weren't good. And then eventually the deck started to shape up. An agent of venom became pretty legit and it still is legit to this day. It's still a little niche, but good. I think fire hair is like that except I think it has a wide, a much wider breadth of potential synergies and cards. You set it perfectly before cozy. Every destroyed card in every one reveal card that can be destroyed cares about fire hair, and so this is one of the ones that I believe. Is gonna age like fine wine and there's been lots of cards that have been aging, like Fine Wine and Marvel Snap. And those are gonna be the best cards in Marvel Snap. Now we're not just talking about pure statistics, we're talking about Feelies. Vibes, but also straight up statistics, which we have available to us here Now cozy. I'm gonna lead the way here by providing you with some cards that I believe are some of the absolute best cards in Snap and have been since they release. And I would like your commentary on it. And if I could make an argument for what I think has probably been the number one card in SNAP for some time as a standalone that has carried the most weight. I'm gonna make an argument. It is a two drop cozy. I knew it. Wow. You're starting to sneak in here. Yep. Let's see if he can get, I'd be, dude, I would be so shocked if you hit it.

Cozy Snap: 55:51

Yeah. I don't know how far back we're going, but I, to me, I'm, I'm putting, I, I, this card's been so stupid since

Alexander Coccia: 55:57

it's come out. Iron Patriot. The two three, that adds a random 4, 5, 6 drop to your hand. It was not the card I was thinking about, but it is actually on the list. What's the card? We can start with Patriot now. No, no. Now I'm just kind of leaving everyone hanging. It was Scream Cozy. Yeah, scream was the card I was thinking about because if you think about it, scream is currently as of right now at a 4.6% popularity running eight. 56% win rate post infinite. According to untapped, it has revived an archetype that literally did not exist prior. Revive, what am I talking about? Revive would mean it would have to have existed before it created the archetype. This card has been nerfed and has gotten Arrow. Your wife who nerfed. Right. It has gotten so many changes around the edge. It made stagger on playable. What are we talking about here? This card has been so consistently one of the best cards in the game, and it brought a whole new archetype to light for me. This has been a fantastic addition to the game. It's pretty

Cozy Snap: 56:53

simple to see why, because here's the deal. This is essentially the Mobious piece to discard. However, the key difference to it is that all of those cards that were played in the past before scream. Or insane value because they came with the con of moving the card and okay, so you have the value play, number one. Number two, you're actively disrupting your opponent at the same time that you're building up your side with good value and buildup, right? So that's why does so well. It's like we talked about Killmonger being the offense defensive card scream. That archetype is that it's the offense defensive deck, and that's what just made it so good.

Alexander Coccia: 57:34

Going back to what you brought up before, which was Iron, Patriot, those screen decks, the weakness the original screen deck had was that if you didn't draw a scream on two, you were cooked. But now those screen decks have screen iron, Patriot, Sam Wilson and Craven as their two drops. Why those cards you ask? Because they all synergize with basically the entire rest of the package. So like your twos, you literally have, with the exception of Craven, Craven's, just very synergistic. But with the exception of Craven, Sam Wilson, iron Patriot scream. Three of the best two drops in the game. Two drops good enough that Jeff, the baby land shark who sits above Cozies head. Being unplayable in comparison. That's ridiculously powerful and you are right to identify that Iron Patriots currently running a 33.8% metas share according to untapped 33% meta share. Cozy at a 53% win rate.

Cozy Snap: 58:27

I think it's so funny because I feel like as we thought when Madame Webb came out, we thought Move was gonna go to this level of complete domination. And what did they do to help that? Well, they created. Scream as that kind of cosmo to it. I think that was gonna be the release valve to make sure that that deck always had an answer to it. But then we ended up using what was gonna be a tech card against move into its own deck design. Right. Like that's how I feel. She's even made it into the game at, at its original, you know, creation and why it's just so dominant still to this day.

Alexander Coccia: 59:00

It's true. And Todd, about Sam Wilson. Sam Wilson is currently running a very similar win rate to the the iron Patriot, so approximately 52 point a half to 53% while Iron Patriots had a 33% metas share. According to Untapped, Sam Wilson's running a 28% meta share. Both of them are in almost every single deck, and I've actually seen this lamented. A lot of people have been lamenting over the fact that like if they don't have Iron Patriot, Sam Wilson, which are back to back season pass cards, they feel like the free to play landscape is significantly more difficult to compete in. And that's absolutely fair. Like I absolutely agree with you guys, but I also feel that both Iron Patriot and Sam Wilson are like, do you feel like they're overpowered or are they just, are they gre that cus they're, they're the of like.

Cozy Snap: 59:45

So there's a lot of things happening. Number one, you had a huge surge in players leaving in December, and then, so imagine that they leave, they come back in March.'cause we have a surge up now. Okay. So they're missing two months. Those are a brutal two months to miss. Okay. And the reason why is yeah, they're, they're overcooked a, a tad, but also they're, they're Jeff in the sense of they're not replaceable. Right? So like, there's nothing to do to replace. Patriot does and his value of plug and play potential. And same exact thing with especially with, with captain Falcon as I, as I'll call'em. They're just hard to replace and then you definitely feel like at that point you're looking at your other two costs to, to fill that void, and it becomes a tough assignment.

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:27

I feel like they're both good enough to be meta shaping, but also not quite good enough to demand a Nerf like searcher demanded a Nerf Loki demanded a Nerf Elsa, original Elsa demanded a Nerf. These cards don't demand nerfs the way those did. However, they're incredibly, anytime you're looking at 30% play rate, like that's insane. And you did get the change for the the CU city and synergy from Sam Wilson, and that did take a little bit off it, but like. I don't know. Does it kill these cards both to go down to a two? Two? Like maybe, yeah. But is it straight up power creep? Like I, I don't know. I don't know what to do about these two.

Cozy Snap: 1:01:03

I don't think they do that to Patriot.'cause he's the card that wants to win the location. So if you're two two, your job of winning that location gets much harder. Yeah. And I don't think they mess with the cost either. I don't see him changing. And they already made the change to catches, so I think they're gonna stay the same.

Alexander Coccia: 1:01:18

Interestingly enough, another card that has been consistently one of the absolute top performers. Is Doom 2099, and this is one that we obviously were, we're high on, on the Snapchat, and it has received multiple nerves since coming out and has quietly still remained near the top. And now currently we have a spectrum based ongoing deck with Doom 2099, that's legitimately one of the top performers. And this card just doesn't seem to go away. It, it's only running a 6% meta share according to Untap at a 53.5% win rate. So it doesn't feel like a meta dominator or it doesn't feel like it's. Suppressing people's enjoyment of the game, but it's definitely out there and it's still performing despite the multiple nerves.

Cozy Snap: 1:01:58

Yeah. You know, he just reminds me a bit, I don't play him much because I didn't play Sherry much back in the day for that simplicity. Simplicity mixed with casual fans is a success. Right. And so there's a lot of play there and success there. But yeah, they've had a really. I think they tried to make it, you know, I mean, hey, same thing happened to Sherry, right? Where it was like, it was just too good. Even though it was simplistic, it was also too good. And they, and now we saw the same almost excuse for Serer, right? It is like too easy, too simple, too good of what it does best. But yeah, doom when you make a car that already helps what we used to call the goaded car to snap and, and, and Dr. Doom, you know, it's a recipe

Alexander Coccia: 1:02:39

for disaster. It's funny that you bring that up because Dr. Doom himself is actually running a 53% win rate and a 8.6% meta share. This is being seen because you are seeing Dr. Doom being played with the Doom 2099, but also there's a couple competitive Patriot moonstone shells that are starting to kind of emerge and they're running Dr. Doom. Right. And, and also ultra. So you have like the Dr. Doom Ultra package, depending on what you draw or what the situation's calling for. So Dr. Doom of the og, like big six drops that everyone loves to have is actually one of the top performing ones right now in terms of the classic, I don't wanna say big bads, you know what I mean? Right. The classic six drops that you lean to. Right. And it's, it made me think, right, like Magneto's not on this list. But that's like a card Magneto Dr. Doom. They've been cards that have been very consistent, like the same thing. Dr. Doom got nerfed once and then they brought him back because they realized that the Nerf was, was just way too heavy handed. But ultimately it's really interesting to see that Dr. Doom is, is doing as well, especially for such a classic card and talking about cards with, with regards to the the season pass one that has kind of fallen to the wayside slightly in terms of like, it's like Twitter hate. Galata, but Galata still runs an 18.7% Medi-Share at a 52% win rate. Galata, I think is still an excellent card, and it's just that there's so many new shiny toys out there that Galata almost doesn't get the recognition it deserves as being an absolute cheek clapper.

Cozy Snap: 1:04:10

Yeah, it just dependable, I mean, just doing the thing that you needed to do. It's so funny, looking back at the rival season, it was either just like massive winner. Absolute dog water, right? So it was like Galata, Luna, snow rocket and gr were in there. And then do 2099 as you just mentioned. And then we had Bruce, Bruce Banner you know, and, and the debacle that went through. Yeah, Galata, I is just a subject to the season passing, not season pass, but season passing by. And then like, yeah, new builds come out, but we're seeing plenty of her in high voltage because she's the definition of what that good value is.

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:46

Oh, there's no question about talking about passing. We're hearing your voice box pass away over here as we continue on Snapchat. It's,

Cozy Snap: 1:04:51

it's, it's, it is holding on ti I'm sorry guys. For the, the left. It's literally not even that. I'm not enthused. It's like I know that if I go up in Octave, it's done.

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:01

Yeah, he is literally running on fumes right now. Poor cozy. Don't worry, buddy. We're almost there. We also have rock and group, which you just mentioned, which was your card of the month. That month actually. Running a 15% meta share and one of the highest win rates in Marvel Snap at a 54.4%. That is remarkable for Rocket and Groot. It's been an actual beauty and I think I, what I really like about this car, obviously it was disgusting and sanctum showed out so good, was so stupid in that mode. I'm glad they ultimately actually that's something we didn't necessarily talk about, but kudos to second dinner for like. On the fly banning some cards in sanctum. They did like a mid, like a mid week band on OTA for game. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. I'm glad they did that. They, they're trying to be responsive there. But yeah, rock and Group's been remarkable. Another one that's within that kind of sphere is is Keith Bishop Kate Bishop's running approximately 50% Mesure, but the win rate is much lower at 51%. K Bishop feels like it has its role to play, but has definitely been one of the fairer season pass cards that added a lot to the game. It reminds me to some degree of what we're seeing now with Emoto, except it might surprise you that although Amimoto, I think is taking a lot of negative heat right now, Emoto's actually running only a 50% me 50% win rate, any 13% meta share. So according to untapped statistics. Kate Bishop actually has a higher win rate than Nakamoto. I'm not sure if that surprises you or not.

Cozy Snap: 1:06:28

Yeah, I think also we're still, Kate Bishop went out the gate with a good win rate compared to OG Moto. OG Moto has obviously some complexities to him and anytime we got as a two, what she's doing is a two cost. It is just that good and, and Agamotto even with how crazy wins War two is and, and him, at the end of the day, you are filling your cards. Into your deck, that does create less dependency in game plans. Right. Whereas like, she's actively giving you curve, which is crazy. So I, I would give that for the reason. But yeah, Kate Bishops has just been just, just incredibly solid by design since she's come

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:08

out. And I also think that obviously Kate Bishop's decks have matured in a way that Emoto's decks haven't had a chance to achieve. Haven't Yeah. Haven't had the chance yet. And we'll end with this one here. Cozy. I'll, I'll give this to you. Do you think Luke Cage is in the conversation for being one of the best cards in the game?

Cozy Snap: 1:07:24

Yeah, because he's like. He's the gatekeeper. I mean, like imagine, remember that location that got rid of cards gonna be discarded. Imagine if there was a card you could play at a three ahead of the ongoing of no cars could be discarded, right? Like it's just this ultimate stop gate for so much happening. Obviously that's even a good example too, because Luke Cage's offensive capabilities as well, right? And like what he does for you in those decks. I think so. He just does two things at once, so well.

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:54

It's almost like, imagine Luke Cage was like the the opposite of Luke Cage. Ongoing. All cards cannot have their power increased. Imagine if you prevented your opponent from buffing their cards completely. And what kind of catchall that would be, right? Oh, I just gave Glenn a very bad idea talking about fun'cause like that's like a pillow on top of everyone's fun. But yeah, like Luke Cage, like, so he's running a 13% meta share to 51.5% win rate. So he doesn't quite hit the numbers of what the best cards in Snap do, but he feels like a very impactful card in Snap, which is what I was leaning into Cozy. And you know what, sir, that's gonna take us. To our Snapchat mailbag. My friend, we have had so many questions on the Snapchat Mail Beg and I encourage you to continue asking some questions for Cozy. And I as you know, we've, we've been on a number of different topics, but I wanna go back to one. We did have a comment about a conversation we had about TV shows. Now, cozy, I will tell you that my wife and I just finished season one of Daredevil. It took us a while, but we did it. We just finished season one and you know what? She's actually excited to see season two. So we did it. We successfully converted my wife into a Marvel TV show fan, but after, I don't, I don't know if after Daredevil, if I, I don't know what I'm gonna sell her on next, but maybe there's more Daredevil that came out so I can keep going on that. But when talking about shows, cozy Jax had said Dark, won a fan voted 2 million bracket of the best Netflix original ever. I did not realize that there was some sort of vote where unanimously dark was considered one of the best Netflix shows. So perhaps we actually have some good taste. Cozy

Cozy Snap: 1:09:33

closet following. Man, I, I can't speak to you till you've seen Inception. I. And then you go from inception to severance. You need to, you need to, you need to do this. But screw Daredevil. I actually

Alexander Coccia: 1:09:42

looked into severance. I think I can get it. You can like using like Amazon, you could subscribe to Apple Plus. I thought I needed an Apple tv. It was so stupid. I thought I needed an Apple tv and I was like looking up Apple TVs to watch this show.'cause it wasn't just you. Like I think that a, i I now I just hear it nonstop. Everyone's talking about it, so I think I gotta get honest. Start with

Cozy Snap: 1:10:02

inception. Just start. It's a two hour commitment, but you'll

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:04

love it. Is that the Leonardo DiCaprio movie? Yeah. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:08

That's the way I'm shocked. I'm, I'm like blown away. You haven't seen it?

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:13

Yeah, no. Well, listen buddy, there's, there's a lot of things I have not seen and I have not done, but Haiti's Gaming does comment on exactly that with saying why is all the cozy lore stuff like, I used to work in hotels. I used to be a top 500 in my, in my role playing of, of Overwatch. And then all of Alex's lore is like, I've never heard of Firefly.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:33

People couldn't believe like inception. Like everyone was like, oh my gosh. And then I got to fire Firefly and they're like, it's like your nerd Rite of Passage. Passage. Like I got, I'm sorry. I know I

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:44

let a lot of people down.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:45

It's okay though. You didn't know what chorizo again, you are. I. I think I asked you, are you a real person? And sometimes I ask myself that, but guys, I can, I can absolutely as he can back out back up. I am who I am. When you meet me in person, I can too. Alex didn't know what a, a fish taco was in person. So he is, he is. Everything you're seeing right here, even when I got to meet the, this legend.

Alexander Coccia: 1:11:08

You know what though? I still, I still remember that fish, taco Mo, you were like flabbergasted because I thought they were gonna give me like a fish that was cut into the shape of a taco or something. I don't know. Man, it, it, listen, that's, it's, listen, it's an easy mistake to make. Just it's in the name man. It's in the name. It's a fish that is shaped like a taco, but obviously they put the fish in the taco. Okay. I understand what it is now. Cozy and that was a beautiful restaurant, man. San Diego talk about everything you just describe San Diego as just beautiful. Everywhere we went was beautiful. Like especially considering like the snow infested place that I'm in with winter Dyers, and you guys are just like, oh, what's shoveling? I don't know. But hey, listen, that upper body strength I've been building by shoveling all the snow, buddy. I mean, it's actually the first day of spring, so maybe hopefully less snow. But Jamie comes in with our next question and it reads, I started a new account and the card acquisition early on is so good in this game. You get new cards, every few upgrades, why can't they lean into that for the late game? The collection level thing was such a great idea early on, and then it turns into a mess after three or 5K collection level after your series three complete. Sometimes it does feel pay to win with all the new cards releasing, but I feel like even some early decks can compete. So the mailbag question he asks is, what pool one or two decks do you think could compete in today's meta? Just

Cozy Snap: 1:12:28

with

Alexander Coccia: 1:12:28

pool one and two cards. I don't think there are, dude, I actually was trying to figure this out. Like there's really not, like even zoo needs Gilgamesh. I think the furthest you can go is you have to go to series three and then you start to be able to at least cook with silver Surfer, destroy, like you get some stuff. But I think at minimum you need series three to even be competitive now, I think,

Cozy Snap: 1:12:52

yeah, it's pretty bad. I would say like maybe. No, I was just gonna say like, even maybe early destroy, but like, even that discard, you missing big pieces. Patriot's close, but you need Patriots. So

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:02

Patriot though. Patriot's a sick guy. Yeah. Yeah,

Cozy Snap: 1:13:04

dude, that's a cook right there. Yeah, dude, it's just rough. It's rough and one and two, but it does take a long to get to three. So like, you're not, you're not too far behind. But yeah, it's it, it card acquisition's quick. It, it's still quick and pull three too. But what's cool about it is as you get new cards in there, you're gonna be able to really open up what you could do. There's plenty of good decks. In fact you could climb as far as you want to with some pool three only decks.

Alexander Coccia: 1:13:27

Yeah. And even like something like surfer, like once you get Sebastian Shaw with tokens. Yeah. Like you can actually legit have a decent win rate deck with a Koi Nikia. But you know, honestly it's pretty rough, pretty rough there. Another question here we got, and it is coming from Instagram. I Instagram less aj. Sorry. Sometimes I, the reading the names gets a little tricky. Hi guys, huge fan of the chat. What cards do you like playing that isn't part of an archetype? For example, I put quake in my screen deck knowing that it doesn't actually contribute to the play style, but the location swinging feels on theme for me. I'm gonna say cozy. I, I like Miss Marvel. I, I feel like Miss Marvel has been one I've been using a lot because I can use like. Sam Wilson to activate the best marvel right now, which I think is kind of fun. It's a way that Sam Wilson's not being used, especially since at a zero cost shield. He now does not interact with pretty much anything else. And so he feels like free real estate when you slide him around'cause you can slide it into a one drop and another Marvel. It's Cat, the Marvel. We discussed Captain Marvel on your side. That's a card I'm always looking to add, especially if I have galata in my deck.

Cozy Snap: 1:14:33

Yeah, that's a good question. I like that question. I mean, the boring answer for me is ly'cause I'm just like having a good time. Or even Pa Paige just'cause how good he is just in across anything that you could kinda make work. If I was gonna choose a different answer, man, there's a couple, I'm kinda like breezing through'em as I'm like, what do I like?

Alexander Coccia: 1:14:47

I have two more while you're thinking. Okay. Now that I think, I don't wanna steal yours, but Nebula is another one that I think has like, okay. It's not really an archetype one, but it's a good one to add. And I feel like I'm gonna, this would've been your answer. I bet. I feel bad saying it. Cozy. What about copycat?

Cozy Snap: 1:15:03

Yeah, I had copycat, but I so copy like those. I just like, yeah, it's not what she was or whatever. But yeah, those catchall just feels so good that could be played like across the board. Right. And copycat's definitely like way up there amongst those. I, I feel like, man, they created my perfect heart in Iron Patriot. I said that when it came out. I was like, it's literally coleson, but better.'cause I'm getting like what I like from Colson, but then I'm also getting just crazy value on the curve play. So it's definitely him. As an off pick, I'm gonna go frigo.

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:30

Ooh. Figures a nice one too. As we close our Snapchat with a nice, not even a question, it's more of a statement from Mitch Van Cleve, and it says, I know that you guys said that you weren't making any more ball sack jokes, but every time I see bolt of ball sack, I can't help but imagine Mike Tyson saying Ball sack. Also, I love you guys so much. The past three episodes have been the best you've ever put out.

Cozy Snap: 1:15:53

Wow. That's saying something with the last one. Ball. First of all, Alex just had to get his ballack counter up. He, he was, he was itching to get that one in there. I could, I could feel it, man. Oh. Ballack itching. I like where you went there. Cozy. Boom, boom. Done. On that note, guys, you know what? I keep it close. You got the better voice. You got it. Go.

Alexander Coccia: 1:16:10

I got it. Alright. Thank you so much guys for watching. We sincerely appreciate each and every one of you. We'll be back next week. Thank you for your support and we'll see you on that Snapchat.

Cozy Snap: 1:16:19

You guys have a good one. Have a great one. Till the next one. Happy snapping.