Redwing: The Flightless Card | Looking Ahead at 16 New Cards | Thaddeus Ross In Review | The Snap Chat Ep. 120

Will Redwing fail to get off the ground? What are the new cards coming in the next 2 seasons? What are Cozy and Alex's final rankings on Thaddeus Ross? Join Cozy Snap and Alexander Coccia as they chat about this and more on this episode of The Snap Chat and every week as they discuss all things Marvel Snap.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome and Today's Topics
• 0:39 Hockey and Valentine's Day
• 5:24 Alex's Topics
• 5:40 Redwing
• 17:45 Prehistoric Avengers Season
• 42:41 What If Season
• 1:04:40 Homework
• 1:07:18 Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ross In Review
• 1:15:21 Card Mastery
• 1:31:52 The Snap Chat Mailbag
• 1:40:20 Outro

Transcript

Cozy Snap: 0:00

What's going on guys and welcome back to another episode of the snapchat today. We're going to be breaking down a red wing, the brand new card coming to the game. And it's it kind of exactly what we thought about this month, pretty lackluster, but today we've got a lot of cards to talk about. If you're all about new cars and this is the episode for you, Alex and I going to be breaking down the next two months of cards coming to the game. And there's some insanely fun concepts. And this month might've been a little boring, but the next two months. Look pretty damn exciting. And we're going to talk about that all today. More on this episode of the Snapchat. And as always, I am joined by the one and only Mr. Alex Kocha and Alex, I got to say, my friend, I got a couple of things to say, actually. All right. Well, you know, Hey, U S. Canada, we know that. People know that. They come to the cast, they hear us, you know, not know things from each other's countries. But what we can both agree on is when they play each other in hockey in one of the most important expedition games of all time, that the U. S. is on top, alright? You guys might have the best shooters in the world, but the U. S. is on top. Had to start there, had to bring it up, my friend. My gosh, what, that was probably one of the most legendary matches I've ever seen.

Alexander Coccia: 1:04

It was incredible. Yeah, I was watching it with my whole family all the kids were together three tillies in nine seconds, which is absolutely insane. You don't usually see that. In terms of the fights, I think Canada won 2 1. Miller took on a guy like 40 pounds and like six inches taller than him, so it wasn't really a fair fight, but he gave her. But at the end of the day, on the scoreboard, that's where the States got us, and I think you're right, man. It's like, We have superstars that can, like, on paper should be better, but your team played better. Straight up. The defense on the states and the goal tetting was absolutely astronomical. What, how was your weekend? What'd you do? It's funny, because, like, obviously it was Valentine's Day, and I'm sure you did more than I did, because I forgot. My wife knew, though. You forgot? I didn't like forget, but like, okay, you

Cozy Snap: 1:43

forgot.

Alexander Coccia: 1:43

I've done this before, you know, my history of forgetting important dates, the cozy nose personally on a level that you guys wouldn't know a little forgetful with important dates, but my wife is is pretty forgiving on that sense. Cause I've been doing it since like, I don't know, 2011 or so. And we got married. So it's like, it's just, it's not, you do though. What I do though is every once in a while, I'll show up randomly. I'll go to Costco and I'll get like a huge thing of flowers. I'll just, for no reason, it's not Mother's Day, it's no, it's no regular day. And it's just, boom, she comes home and there's flowers there. She's like,

Cozy Snap: 2:12

makes up

Alexander Coccia: 2:12

for

Cozy Snap: 2:12

it. What'd you do for Valentine's Day? What'd you get her?

Alexander Coccia: 2:14

Cozy, this is the problem. I, I, that's

Cozy Snap: 2:16

Dude, like 1 800 FLOWERS or nothing, you know, not a, not a massage, not a Cocha Experience Cocha Massage, Mellow Exp No, nothing. Not even a, not even a coupon.

Alexander Coccia: 2:28

Coupon? Yeah, I did get coupons for like Harvey's in the mail, but I don't think she doesn't want

Cozy Snap: 2:32

a burger from, Harvey's the burger place? Yeah, I think you guys, I think we have Harvey's.

Alexander Coccia: 2:36

Oh yeah, you guys don't

Cozy Snap: 2:37

have Harvey's? I think, isn't that Carl's Jr.? Isn't it the same thing? That's insulting, but no. It's not. It's like, basically

Alexander Coccia: 2:43

like, they, they make it your way, man.

Cozy Snap: 2:45

Nah, I don't know. I think you've talked about Harvest before. Yeah, I, listen, Valentine's Day, I actually started my OTA video. It was on the Thursday, and I was like, it's your last day to get flowers. It's the first thing I said. I was like, don't forget it. Go out and get them. I, I love going to, to some shop on Valentine's Day and seeing like all the lost dads and or lovers just out there trying to find the 50 flowers. I swear inflation is the most noticeable on flowers, by the way. Like roses used to be like 10 bucks and I had to get, it was like 40 and I get this stupid heart because I know my wife doesn't even want the flowers. Like she, she does, but she does it. She wants the act of the flower. She doesn't care about the flowers themselves. So I get this like they're bent into a heart shape thing. I'm like, that's kind of cool. It's like an extra 20 But I'm like man, I could bend these myself. I'm like, okay, so I get the thing right and it comes to the vase That's the most important part, right? Cuz I'm not bro when it comes to flowers I put in a cutting them and put them in the vase like that's our suck Right, but I get the vase dude as I'm I get a little balloon, right? I'm trying to go above and beyond a little bit So, I'm setting up the balloon in the kitchen. This is at night, by the way, because there's nothing I love more than Thursday goes around, right? She wakes up and then the stuff's there, because it's the idea of like, when the hell did he go? How did he go? Right? Brother, it's like 1 a. m. I just finished editing some video and I'm putting the whole thing together and as I tie and get the balloon ready, my elbow hits the vase with the flower off of my kitchen island. And I watched this beautiful. Beautiful art going to 10 million pieces, right? So not only did I wake my son up, okay, I have 10 billion pieces of glass on the floor at this point, right? No shoes on, don't know what to do. It's pitch dark almost at this point too, because have you broken glass, right? You got kids. I don't know about you, but I panic. I'm like, there's going to be one. There's gonna be one that I forgot and I'm over at the at the, at the hospital. Long story short we didn't have another vase. I, I kind of just popped it in a cup. It didn't have the same, she liked it more because of the story, but it was a bit it was sad. That was sad Alex. And I stepped on some grass. I gotta make

Alexander Coccia: 4:56

sure my wife does not listen to this intro. Because you're like lamenting over how hard you worked for valentine's day or as my answer was literally like bro. I don't know. I forgot

Cozy Snap: 5:04

I'm gonna make sure i'm gonna make sure she does anyway. Happy valentine's day for all you guys that celebrated out there we've got ourselves a pretty good video to talk about today. We've got a lot of new cards We've got an ota which we're not gonna actually break down all too much. We'll probably talk about adam warlock I think that'll be the main one To break down. That'd be a fun one to break down. We know what we're talking about over here. Alex, what are we talking about on your side of the Snapchat

Alexander Coccia: 5:26

cozy on my side of Snapchat, where do we talk about Thunderbolt Ross and whether or not he's good for your decks? A spoiler alert. He might not necessarily be, but we'll talk about them in full review. We'll also be talking about card mastery and whether or not it's sus. And then finally, as always our Snapchat mailbag.

Cozy Snap: 5:40

All right, Alex, lots of cards to talk about today. I'm actually pretty excited because. As I thought this month was when we started our in review series, I just had a feeling this month was pretty lackluster, and listen, bud, the reviews are in early on the new Captain America. Not looking good. I haven't seen it. I can't judge on it. Maybe you enjoyed it, people. But they're not looking good so far. And it's kind of like this month's end card. And I I want to be able to talk about the new cards coming out. A lot, but between Thaddeus and Red Wing here, it's a pretty tough back to back week we've got it. Now it did get updated and the OTA is now a 3 4, people, so do remember that. It's a 3 4. And the first time this card moves, add a card from your hand to the old location is what Red Wing is going to do. And, you know, I think there are cards that we talk about where you gotta test it, maybe we can see if it works, maybe see if it doesn't. You know, I think it to me alex, it's fairly obvious Just why I think this car is not going to hit and it's a couple of reasons and i'm not sure about you I'm giving it a very low star. Maybe a two even Even that I think is probably nice Mainly due to the fact of we've seen this where if cards cannot move on their own, or they need some kind of vessel, usually that's just such a slowdown, it's just not worth it, especially with how, outside of Madam Web, a lot of cards, you know, you gotta play it in a certain order, and then that means you have to get those cards at the right time, and then, on top of that, you have to have a card that you, you want in your hand that's gonna play down, and so, you've got that wonkiness so that's a big thing, but also even between the stat line, And the nicheness of the card has me right away. You know, you asked me to start this episode with the star rating. So I'm doing that for you. I I'm just not feeling red wing as a card. This is definitely a save month for me.

Alexander Coccia: 7:24

I would definitely agree with that. There's a couple of things. First of all, when they pre buff a card. That tells you everything you need to know at 3 3. This car was probably absolute unmitigated filth like impossible to play Yeah, he gave it 3 4 and you know what the problem is is that you're right. It doesn't move on its own So it doesn't have like the rock and Groot automatic kind of like hey, I can move when I want You don't have that agency with it. It has to it requires a second piece and that second piece you're not always guaranteed to draw into and Like, okay, so, right off the top, it's like, okay, well, you can Heimdall it. Well, yeah, sure, but then, like, how do you make sure you get Heimdall? Are you actually gonna cope and put Thunderbolt Ross in a deck, so that you can maybe draw into Heimdall, so you can do a Red Wing on Curve, and all this stuff? And then, like, it just doesn't make much sense. I think you're absolutely right. My heart of hearts says this is probably a two star card. I could see it in like one, maybe two decks, perhaps touching that three star range. And then it just cuts and that deck never sees play ever again. It's not going to do enough to those archetypes where it can be played, where I think it'll be viable. Although, the ability could potentially be strong. It lacks agency on so many fronts, right? As you said, you got to have the card in hand that you want to pull, you got to pull that card, and you have to move it itself, right? So, There's a couple lines that I'm interested in, but overall, I am tentative. So I'd go like a two and I could see a maximum three star.

Cozy Snap: 8:44

I don't even see I can't see a three. I'll be honest, because how are you supposed to get in your hand something that you want to have played out? We've talked about Dracula dump. I think that's the one place that like maybe you can get this to work out because you have a lot of cheap ones that can move in there maybe. But is it going to take a slot of something else? Or can the deck play the same without it? Probably. Like, I even was like going as far as like, ooh, Phoenix Force, okay, you destroy the Red Wing, then you have a car that can move itself, so then you can kind of time it, and maybe get some big stuff in your hand. It's just so much that you're trying to do when you have I don't know, a Surtur deck, even though it got nerfed, but you got that, which just plays big power, and big power's gonna win, and it doesn't virtually have a counter. Like, or Doom, you know, 2099, you can just play, you don't have to think as hard to get something that is pretty much the exact same. And so that's what worries me about it. I think it really boils down and we've seen this time after time after time that move is just it's on that fine line of if you make it every time it moves it plays a card it's too good if you you know you can't have it move itself because probably it's too good because craven synergy and blah blah it move has seen it Just so much adversity against it as an archetype in this game And if it ever does have that You know kind of chance to shine a little bit in a deck then they kind of address it pretty quickly That to me is usually the key indicator of a card that's not great. I think red wing is probably that

Alexander Coccia: 10:06

Oh, you're right. And I had some thoughts about like, okay, like we, as you mentioned, right, the fact that it can only really do its effect once, and that's probably reserved because the effect is somewhat powerful. And if you're already able to do it over and over again, you would be able to just pull down your hand so rapidly, but you're also taking up a lot of space doing that. So I don't know how broken it is. It's probably broken, honestly. It got me thinking about Spider Man 2099, which is, you know, obviously a card that would benefit from being able to proc its effect twice, much like Redwing would benefit from being able to proc its effect twice. However, I was thinking, okay, what if you have something like a Spider Man 2099 down and you have Redwing down and you Heimdall? So now you're getting two procs off the Heimdall play. You're getting the Redwing pulling, you're getting a destruction from the Spider Man 2099. Individually, they might not be impressive, but together that might actually be. A relatively powerful turn six play, especially considering the Heimdall's now a 10 power card. So it's like that's kind of what got me thinking a little bit. I actually don't even think that's probably the best line. Like I don't even believe that Redwing is a move card because there's going to be few cards that want to be pulled down in a move deck. Like, okay. Yeah, that works. But yeah, okay. Spider Man 29. 9 is destroying something. But what's Redwing pulling? Like in that kind of move list, you know what I mean? Is it pulling an infinite? Do you have an infinite in that deck? For some reason, so it's like, that's where it kind of gets a little suspect. So I absolutely agree. Yeah, I don't know. I do have a couple of lines if I could pitch to you that might be worth it.

Cozy Snap: 11:27

Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, I'll, I'll say the only one that I liked was outside of again, Dracula dump, but the only one I like is, and again, the deck built, it's like, okay, you have to kind of change your mind from what she usually is played in, but just the two card combo of madam web and then red wing at that alone. Okay, because then you've got the agency to kind of move that whenever you want to, right? And then it, then you can maybe do something there. And you can put that into most decks, but what deck does that look like? That's the thing.

Alexander Coccia: 11:56

So, I thought about this. And I think you're right. Because you can do a Madam Web on Curve on turn turn 2. And then on turn 3, you can Red Wing. Turn 4, you could Frigga, right? Bring a Red Wing back. Move the first Red Wing. Turn 5, play another Red Wing into Madam Web. Right turn six move that red wing again So now you're dropping two cards down But your entire deck is revolving around pulling cards out of your hand I was gonna say what's in your hand

Cozy Snap: 12:21

to pull down at that point. It's like, yeah, what are you trying to pull down? I just yeah, I don't even know like I get it if they made it every time it moves It pulls a card might be too strong But then they could almost stat it correctly to be around that So if they made it a forecast that happens so late in the games Then it's not that big of a deal if they can do it every turn I don't know like I feel like at that point you could maybe do some Kind of cool stuff of yank and stuff all over. It's still very card dependent. Maybe they tried that just doesn't work. I think it was supposed to be balanced the first time, you know, it was, yeah. Yeah. Listen, putting this next to Thunderbolt Ross might be the two worst cards to come back week over week. It is probably my review.

Alexander Coccia: 12:57

Yeah, it's, it's not good, but I also think that they're intended to be played together. Because Thunderbolt Raw straddles into big cards that Red Wing can pull. And I think that's kind of where their head was at. That the consecutive weeks are supposed to build off each other to some degree. Whereas prior, you had Red Wing synergizing with Joaquin Torres Falcon, right? Because it had the bounce and buff mechanic. So I think they were trying to make Red Wing a like a card that was supposed to like synergize with the other token cards or the other spotlight cash cards. And then they kept changing the design of it. But yeah, no, I agree. I think these are, these are weak weeks for sure. Unfortunately.

Cozy Snap: 13:30

Well, we're gonna move because we have so many cars to talk about let's move on from Red Wing I think both of us would say that we're we're probably not crazy about the car. Do you have another line? Did you have one more line you want to throw out there?

Alexander Coccia: 13:42

I mean the only one that I think maybe I would try and I might try on the opening day is an Electro Ramp with Heimdall the reason why is because I think Electro Ramp is interesting from a standpoint of like Red Wing could be a backup play is if you don't get your ramp. I don't like that one Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was kind of cool. Right. So like you have Heimdall in there and then like, you can have other, some, and a couple other big hitters. And what's interesting is if you don't pull the electro, you can play the red wing down and your, your hand is going to be designed to have chunks in it. Right. Because you're playing electro. And I'm not quite a hundred percent sure. Like, am I doing the Corvus line? Like we used to remember the Corvus ramp stuff? That's another three drops or it's like, you're either getting electro, you're getting a red wing or you're getting Corvus. And you're going to be able to throw down chunks. You're going to be able to get them out there. The only challenge with Corvus, I think, would be if you get rid of Heimdall, the Red Wing is useless. So that probably can't ultimately be in the deck. But I've been trying to pen and paper around that a little bit. I thought it would be an interesting take. I don't think it's going to be like, Oh, look at this 60 percent win rate deck that got cooked. It's not going to hit that. But I think it might work, maybe.

Cozy Snap: 14:41

Back in the day with like the old Doc Ock, Heimdall, that actually could have been a kind of a cool line. You get like Doc Ock, you pull the cars on one lane. Red Wings on the other lane when you move them over, they're stuck in that lane. Now you have Doc Ock, you have Red Wing and the other one. Like, that could have been a cool line, you know, but we don't have a lot of stuff that can kind of work off the Heimdall these days. I mean, a couple things, not like we don't have anything, but that at least seems like it'll be playable for content. That seems like at least the stream's gonna be entertaining. Yeah, seems entertaining. OTA came, a lot of just power shifts for sure but hey man, listen. Thrilled, absolutely thrilled to see Adam Warlock finally get the love, and it took so long to get this design, it took like a year to get this design right, and it was so simplistic, yet so good, like I'm glad, at least it, it brought together, you know, a design that felt better for Adam Warlock, and it was just missing like a line of text, which is so funny to think about, right? What do you think about new Warlock here?

Alexander Coccia: 15:35

I think it was funny that at the end of the day, as you said, you come full circle with basically the original text, which is some very moderate like minor, but significant modifications to the otherwise plus one. I think that this card still would have sucked originally, like in the opening days of beta and release, it still would have been a bad card. Right now, we have Rocket and Groot, which feasts with this card, right? You also consider the fact that with Sam Wilson, we have an initiative granting card on turn one. Right? So, like, Adam Warlock loves that. Like, we have tools today that we didn't have before to make this card legitimately powerful. Like, even just rocking and grooving, man, it's nuts.

Cozy Snap: 16:11

Well, and just the fact that he, I, what I like about it, too, is that he just applies pressure. So, like, he, he's gaining that one each time, you know, if you're not drawing that card. And so it's like making that location a little bit harder. So like at the very least, I, I remember we used to say, like, even if Adam got you one card, he's like, he was worth that play. And now it's like, okay, if he can get you that card, he's like a two, three, it's like, all right, you know, that, that, if you would have two, three draw a card, that's a, that's a great card, right? That's a good card to have. So I, I think that this is actually an Adam that we can play, feels great around that. Really happy that they did that. And overall, you know, pretty, pretty big win. And then the OT addressed a lot of other big hitters that needed to come down. I think that was good, too. I think, you know, obviously doing 2099, some of those other cards were cooking a bit too much. Those felt way more appropriate than some of the other ones we've had in the past. Like dagger whatever coming down. It's like well, that was such a small, you know small line I just can't believe out of every card in this entire freaking game that adam warlock was the worst card of the game Some weeks that that that cracks me up

Alexander Coccia: 17:10

something's got to be the worst, but it doesn't surprise me that warlock was that something else we've mentioned about the ota2 is the buff of a bunch of classics, right? Seeing sarah get a point sunspot get a point. That was nice to see. I was very happy to see a bunch of Classics get buffed and it's gonna make the next These cards suck. Thumbnail that, you know, we're, we're running up on in the next couple of weeks for the Snapchat, which is one of our go to topics cozy. What are we going to put on the thumbnail? Now they're buffing all the cards.

Cozy Snap: 17:33

Mr. Fantastic warlock. I know at lizard though. Lizard. They were like, Oh, I buff it. They were like, they were like warlock. Good. Sarah. Good lizard. Leave them, leave them. We got it. We got to keep them in his, we got to wait another six months to get him good. Well, listen, bud, we've got two upcoming seasons. This season, guys, might've been a bit of a dud, but we have the next season, the prehistoric Avengers, which I think might be one of the best new card seasons that we've had in a long time. There were a lot of cool cards in this season. And then what if has a lot of interesting cards to like. It listed pretty stale February, really exciting March and what would be April. So we're going to kick that off, talk about it. These are subject to change. I would say the ones coming in March already got their second changes, so they probably feel a little bit more locked in. The April ones definitely, I think, are more ideas at this time but always cool to see what they're cooking, what you might want to save up for. And I think by then or by. The time these roll around we're a gonna get serious drops. So keep that in mind, but B we're gonna get Hopefully new card monetization, right? So our new card, we're gonna get new card ways to get new cards Hopefully by around one of these seasons would be my hope at least at least by April We'll have to see now Alex did a video on these. This is the first time I'm looking at these cards So you're pretty much new on looking at them outside of a couple ideas, correct?

Alexander Coccia: 18:51

Yeah. Yeah. I just did a general overview of them.

Cozy Snap: 18:53

Okay. Well, we're going to start with the season pass card and I'm actually pumped that out of all the cards that we have to talk about today I was like kind of looking at which ones were going to be the season pass card. And I'm pumped that Agamotto was the one that they chose as the season pass card. So Agamotto guys I have some of these built in with the text on screen. Some of them I'm just going to have to read. This guy's got way too many cards, so we're going to just read them out here. He's a five 10. Statline out the bat, you know, I think we're all pretty happy with that game at the start of the game He's gonna shuffle for ancient Arcana into your deck. So you can you can think of it as spells, right? He's gonna put four spells into your deck now They're not gonna start in your hand kind of like Thanos so it's gonna make your deck pretty thick But he's got a lot of these spells. So first off 510 Alex, obviously not bad But let's go and talk about all the spells and these are there's some wild ones man. There's definitely some wild ones here We'll go and start with Temporal manipulation guys now We have a brand new keyword on these spells and it was only a matter of time till we got this new keyword to come to the game And it's Banish. So, Banish, from what Glenn has told us, is not destroyed, it's not discarded. There is no way to get this back. Once it's banished, it is out of play. And it'll be coming with this season, but also, he said possibly on some older cards. Which I, that seems super interesting, because I was like, what older cards would you banish? That one to me, they must have to rework some stuff. To make a card banishable because banish is a big penalty. Obviously, there's no way to you know to get it back which I actually like I like something with extreme power potential and it's kind of a one time use, right? These spells are designed just as that they have no power and they cost different amounts So temporal manipulation is a one cost zero power card On reveal, you're going to give Agamotto plus three power. Put him into your hand if he's not in play. So, right of the way, you can kind of get him into your hand. I think that's great. You can also give him the plus three power. For one cost, not a bad spell, Alex if I say so myself. I'm going to kind of read through these and then we can talk about some of them. The next one is the Winds of Watoomb. And this whole season's cool. I mean, just, I know a lot of these from, like, Just marvel. And so to see some of these powerful either gods or spells mentioned. Winds of Retreatment is a 2 0. On reveal, afflict an enemy card here with negative 5 power and then you move it to the right. And then obviously all these have after it, banish it. So let's talk about those two at first, buddy. Banishing and those two spells to start, man. Pretty good, strong start, yeah?

Alexander Coccia: 21:35

You know, it absolutely is. Now, I have a quick question. I don't know if you have the answer to this, because I didn't see Glenn's, he must have answered some questions that you saw and I didn't, in like a Q& A or something. Now, in my head, Banish, I agree, it's exactly what you explained. Does it also mean that the card does not occupy space on the board? Like, is it like an instant in magic, or like, kind of like a spell that just gets played and then it disappears? Like it does not occupy space on the board? Yeah, there's no space

Cozy Snap: 21:57

on the board, and it's gone, gone, right? So it's, it's like, there's no way to to get said card back, there won't be a resurrect from Hela, nothing like that. So yes, and it doesn't apply the space. And you're going to see that the most in one of the cards mentioned here in a second. But now temporal manipulation, cool for the hand, getting him to the hand. I thought this one was really interesting because it's essentially a 2 5 with the power to move a card to the right too. Really cool disruption. You know, listen, card space is getting so hard to manage in this game, and that's why I like these banished cards, because it's allowing you now to be using your energy in creative ways without having to occupy space all the time.

Alexander Coccia: 22:34

Yeah, no, it is. It's, it actually is pretty cool disruption. Like my head was like Galactus. Like, can you imagine like clogging a location or, you know, throwing this over or something like that? And then like, you know, being able to Galactus that location or removing a card from a location, you can then Galactus yourself. It opens up two avenues for Galactus, which I think is pretty interesting, but no, it definitely is a fascinating from a disruption standpoint and being able to draw Agamotto with the, the first spell is actually. Crazy like that is it's like a really plus three plus guaranteed draw of the card that like is already a 510 That's pretty awesome

Cozy Snap: 23:07

If I were to guess anything going down, it could be he goes down from 510. That seems a little strong Keep in mind though. He's adding these cards to deck. So he's really He's not fitting your deck. He's sticking that bad boy up, right? Like he's making your other cars Yes, but these cards are almost worth drawing at that point, right? And so Bolts of Balthok, Bal Balth Bal Balthok. I'm glad you read it before I did. I wanted to make you read it. Yeah, I'm gonna get, you know hazed for that one. But this is now a three cost, so it goes up a little bit. You can abandon it, but this is where things get interesting. On reveal, next turn you get plus four energy. I mean, my God, out of three, that's a huge spell, man. That is an awesome, huge spell. And what's cool is all of these are good. Like, I love that. There's not like a move a card to the right. Kind of like Nico, like it's like, man, these are added into your hand, but you add these with some other just generic good cards and. We're gonna have ourselves a pretty good deck, you know to mess around with right? And then let me read the other one and we'll review these two and then last but not least and this is where it Makes sense that they're not gonna Occupy space in any capacity. We've got the images of icon and This is a four cost honor if you'll transform your other cards here into copies of the highest power one So this will be banished and the way I read this is this won't be transformed, right? So if you have three cards you play this they're gonna all change into your highest powered card And then this is gonna be gone. So there's gonna just be three of whatever that might be It's a four cost but that's some really cool. I mean you you can attack Any lane with pretty big potential here. I think it's not the best one in the bunch, but I think it's very unique in what it can do.

Alexander Coccia: 24:43

Yeah. I had this thought of like filling mid or whatever with a whole bunch of stuff. And then like ramping out a doctor doing with wave and then playing this and then just dooming like the whole board as everything transforms, right. Just doom bots all over the place. It's kind of silly, but I think it's funny. So

Cozy Snap: 24:59

what I want to see, I'm going to go to morph become a copy. I'm transform. We haven't seen a lot. I think we have a couple of times. Does transform let them

Alexander Coccia: 25:06

what's his name? No, transforming that was added for Loki. Yes. To prevent the, the Quinjet synergy. Right?

Cozy Snap: 25:12

So, so does transform then. Does it allow you to copy so if they all become an arrow do they all get their own reveals? You know what? I mean or whatever.

Alexander Coccia: 25:21

Oh, i'm not sure man There's the words and like the verbiage of cards sometimes like you almost gotta just see because sometimes they're even inconsistent with each other Right. We've had that in the past too, right?

Cozy Snap: 25:32

Well, what i'll say is this guy for a season pass card seems like a must like a must a must add season But this guy seems like a five star. Yeah Yeah, this is a we need to get some money. But also the new the new nico. I mean, this is a very Fascinating card with limitless potential. And listen, bro, you combine it with something like maybe King E Tree. You combine them with something like potentially even freaking Mr. Negative, Jane Foster, because they're all zeros. Like, I just talked about having like a plug and play deck. I mean, a Mr. Negative Agamotto deck where you can like get all these cards to your head. It seems like obviously King E Tree is a bit coke, but it feels like this is a card that does fit with just about anything.

Alexander Coccia: 26:13

I don't think King Yuchi's Cope at all. I think you're actually onto something because he's an activate and you can pull exactly what you need when you want it. Like, I think that's pretty cool. Now, obviously, King Yuchi's not going to pull all of them. He's going to pull one of them, right? And so, like, you know, you don't know what you're going to get. And some of the the effects might not necessarily be useful. Like, if Agumon is already in your hand and you pull the Temporal one, yeah, you're giving him plus three, but you're not getting him from the hand. You're not kind of thinning your deck, as they say. But no, definitely speaking from from a season pass perspective, this is probably going to be Close to a must buy because there's going to be no, Oh, I don't have Agamotto. Who do I put instead? Like, it's just, you don't play that deck anymore.

Cozy Snap: 26:49

Next up is Esan, a 6'9 kind of looks like Ereshim's cousin over here. Yep. Yep. Very nice. After each turn, put a card from your hand that didn't start in your deck here. And this is pretty interesting. I know there was a prior version of him that was better. We're gonna talk about this version here. This is what it looks like. He's going to be here other than just the the nice stat line there at 6'9 This seems okay. I think he comes out the same week as Agamotto, so I'm not going to be playing him much, but I don't know, I think there's some cool ways to get some synergy here between Wiccan and Wave and Luna Snow and Jubilee. Like, yeah, I don't know, and an Airship deck? Like, he seems more fun than he seems like really good.

Alexander Coccia: 27:30

His original design, which I know you said you didn't want to talk about, Had the legendary tag, which was so fascinating, which I assumed was you can only have one of in a deck. I think we talked about it in the past. It was so much more interesting than this. It's so sad. Cozy, it's so sad. But I think one of the reasons why they had to change it was because I think the old version, I bet you there was like a mathematical best version of that deck because it was just pure math. Like, oh, just different powers, everything gets plus two. Here's the deck, carbon copy it, get dubs, right? But like, I don't know, man. I don't think this, this is not nearly as good as the other one was. That's for sure. It's not nearly as good. I, I just, I think it's probably a Cope card,

Cozy Snap: 28:05

probably a Cope card. I mean, you have you could potentially get them with Agamotto, right? You could, you could have all the spells like whipping out and going to his thing. Yeah. He definitely, out of all the cards we're going to talk about today, this is probably one of the least interesting to me, mainly because his stat line, like you gotta, it's almost like Red Wing. You have to find a way to get it out there. Yeah. Yeah. You got to find a way to get it out there. Then you have to hope there's stuff in your hand for him to even pull. If he was able to pull just cards from your hand. That weren't you know, because they weren't allowed to start there or whatever. It didn't start your deck If it was just anything in your hand that he would pull down a little more interesting to cheat him out But it's because there's so much going on at play that I think he's just like an erish fun card.

Alexander Coccia: 28:44

Yeah, it's tricky I'm sure there's going to be ultimately like as we get closer to like actually deck building with them There might be a couple of places where he might be able to perform, but generally speaking, it's a, he's a shadow of his former self. And that's kind of where like looking at the data minds can be soul crushing. Cause perhaps when they're experimenting with stuff, they experiment on the higher end of what the power levels should be of cards. Like there's maybe a good chance that the original Esau should not have come out because it was absolutely broken. And as fun as it would have been the first two days, everyone would have been miserable for the next three weeks, begging for a nerf. Right. And so I guess that's the other side of it.

Cozy Snap: 29:15

So automotive is a five to me. Would you say he's a five to you?

Alexander Coccia: 29:18

Yeah, I think Agamotto is going to be a must get.

Cozy Snap: 29:20

And Eason here, what are you giving him?

Alexander Coccia: 29:23

Oh man, it's like a 3 maybe.

Cozy Snap: 29:25

I see, I don't even know if I'd give him a 3. I think he's giving me like a 2. I think he's a gimmick card. Yeah,

Alexander Coccia: 29:28

he's probably, you know, I don't know. I'm like a very, like, unhappy 3. Like, I need more time. I like this guy though, man. I think he's sick.

Cozy Snap: 29:35

This guy's cool, guys. Star Brand, 3 cost, 10 power. You heard that right. A 3 10? How is that possible? Well, Alex, ongoing, your opponent has plus 3 power at each other location. So it's like, wow, that's bad. It's a 3 1 at that point, right? But you get a lot of power at one location. Well, guys, this one is quite simple, quite easy. You're looking to do two lines with it, maybe three. But Sauron needs the love. This is a Sauron card. Love it through and through. So just get back to what Sauron was. Big power, get rid of the ongoing, make it happen. But also Enchantress. You got you know, Enchantress that you can play right after him. You know, maybe just to get rid of that and have raw 16 power, whatever, right? Just boom, power on the lane. I like that play. I think Starbrand is on brand for Snap and I like it.

Alexander Coccia: 30:24

Oh, buddy, that was beautiful. My gosh, Cozy, did you write, are you reading a teleprompter? I did, I did, yeah. Is that like some chat GPT scripting right there that was just so perfect? It caught me. Yeah, buddy, that was, that was beautiful. But I will tell you, I love this card. Like, this might be one of the most, my favorite ones of the month. The reason why is because I, like, love Sauron. I always love those archetypes. I love Zero. I remember thinking back to, like, the third episode of the Snapchat, you talking about, like, how much you loved Zero. And then that, that card and that archetype saw nothing. It was completely forgotten about. In fact, there's a chance that there's people listening right now that don't even know what zero is. I bet you there are new players who cannot think of what zero even does. And it's crazy because like this card, I think is great. And the only concern I have is like, I don't want the Sauron decks to lean so far into like, if I don't draw Sauron, I die. Like, you know what I mean? And like, that's kind of the challenge. So I'd like the Kolo for the Enchantress. Cause that's a nice backup play to Starbrand or to you know, Typhoid Mary or Lizard. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 31:19

Yeah, and that's like you start to have things kind of I missed that deck. You're right Like I really do I miss that deck and not to mention scar Insert this is a very powerful card for that if you can make it work within there, too and having a tech piece like I love the idea of the tech piece like enchantress to kind of live in that deck as like a an a for star brand and also a tech card, right you get like a A killmonger out of it that we want more of I want more bad ongoings I think it's just such a cool concept. They don't they don't mess around with enough Starbrand, definitely cool after kind of a weak Esan week, you know, we got Agamotto followed by him. Now, next one we have is first of all, by the way, star rating on Starbrand?

Alexander Coccia: 31:59

I'm, I'm like, almost 5, just on pure excitement. Like, I could probably see him landing closer to like a 4. I think he's like a 4. I think he's good though. He's a 4. I'm excited 5, but he's really probably a 4.

Cozy Snap: 32:09

Okay, so we have Fire Hair next RIP Firestar. Fire Hair is a 2 3, now this one's interesting. When one of your cards is destroyed, this uses that card's on reveal. And, you know Alex, every now and then we get a really cool card that can, can create combos and create really fun things as just like a set piece. You know, we saw it in the past with like a Nihilus and Hood, right? And century now we've got fire hair who is a destroyed card, but also looks to just kind of work with something you know Really any destroying card, but misery and venom I think is yeah, those are to me. Those are awesome Just plug and play lines. What do you think about fire hair?

Alexander Coccia: 32:51

I think mill's going to feast with fire here. It's like, I think that the, the mill misery lines are going to go absolutely insane. The only thing that I think about with fire here is I think it's going to set up very complex, like macro situations where like fire air has to be positioned to take advantage of its effect. While also you're destroying something in another lane or whatever, like, I think that like, it's going to be challenging to position effectively, but I think it's a really cool card. I liked the design. It's neat. But like, yeah, I need more time to really think about its inherent synergies. But I think it's cool, especially from a macro perspective, like how you set up your board to best take advantage of the effect.

Cozy Snap: 33:26

Yeah, what I'm thinking of is venom, right? So I'm thinking of I'm looking at some of these high power on reveals. Like what are some of these big boys do? And then if you were to eat that and then have that go into another lane, you're getting I mean, obviously misery is the is the biggest bang for buck to get. You know, the smaller guys kind of all triggering at once doing a lot, but like what can venom eat to then have some really good things pop off even something like brood, you know, I don't know whatever right like could just eat it then it goes over there and you, you know, make the space smaller. But I do think in all that this that fire here is pretty interesting. If star rating is tough, I think I would lean kind of high. I think there's going to be more synergy than not.

Alexander Coccia: 34:04

I'm like, Hesitant to give a star rating because I think I need more time to like, start pen and papering some ideas for it. But I would probably venture to say like a high three, low four range. Okay, now That's my estimation.

Cozy Snap: 34:15

People you know, if you listened to the last Snapchat, I was talking to Alex Or a couple of Snapchats ago, I was talking to Alex about Moon Knight and how I really wish he watched the series. And I'm sure he has not yet, but character I really liked on Moon Knight. From the introduction of him, to also just throughout the series. Was Khonshu and Khonshu. Man, you just grow to love Khonshu and who he is as the Egyptian God. They're bringing them to Marvel snap. And it's not just as a 612, I'm going to kind of list what he does here. This is by far my favorite card of this month, I think by by by a long shot Not only because of kanchu but in general so kanchu guys is going to start as a 6 5 He has two other forms a 6 7 and a 6 12. They all do inherently the same thing, but with a major difference So first of all when you discard kanchu is when you're going to be able to upgrade his power, right? So he starts as a 6 5 Then the six, seven, six, 12. But when you play him down, he's going to resurrect one of your other cards and then set that card's power to the form that he's in. So five, seven, or 12. So at the weakest form, he is inherently going to have other things in factor here, but a six, 10. But then you go into 14 to 12, which is crazy. Right? So to me, we have this new kind of apocalypse number one, like this new kind of buildup card that you can get better and better love this mechanic. And I hope they continue to, to work with this in discard, but man, oh man, do we have some cards we can abuse even at five, seven, and definitely 12 power. I'm all in on Conchu, buddy.

Alexander Coccia: 35:48

Yeah, it's pretty cool, and I like how, like, I hope that it'll actually work with the nameplate, the way it's kind of illustrated in the datamines, where the moon becomes more full, like it starts as a new moon, when he's a 6'5 and then you discard him once, he becomes like a kind of like a, I think it's a waning or a waxing moon crescent, and then he turns into the full moon at full power. Yeah, it's awesome, I think it's really neat, and I also like the skill cap consideration of like, only discard him twice, because if you discard him the third time, then Poof, right? He's gone because he only comes back on those first two forms, right? Yeah, but the power output's insane. Like, can you imagine bringing back like an Ironman? So you play a 6 12 in one location and bring back a 6 12 Ironman. Like, it's just, it's just crazy, honestly. That's a 24

Cozy Snap: 36:27

power play. And, but as we know, I think what has me so excited is we finally have another card. Discard is one of those perfect well put together archetypes because it it it flows and ramps so well And so you have this you morbius that's just going to the moon with every action you take, right? You have this black knight that we can maybe play and get some really cool value out of black knight to get the ebony blade And then cons you I love that Hela is not now just Hela, and we have this kind of mini form of Hela. We had it in Ghost Ride a little bit, but the fact that this synergizes perfectly with Moon Knight, so you're discarding your opponent's hand, you're getting Conshu builds up. This to me is by far the car that I'm most excited for. And regardless of how good it's going to be, I'm going to get it. But I also think it's going to be very good.

Alexander Coccia: 37:12

Yeah. It looks like it's going to be really good. It's going to need a lot of like discard activators. Like you need to discard something to bring back. You need to discard conchu. So like you need, it's going to need a very deliberate, well designed tight deck. However, I'm super excited for it as well. I think it's going to be a new archetype defining card for Discard. Like, we have these archetypes within Discard, right? We have the Apoc, we have the Bullseye, we have the Black Knight. Do you guys remember Black Knight? He still exists, kind of. And then now you're going to have Conshu as well. And so you're going to have these multiple and then of course Hellas. So you have like five versions of one archetype that you can lean into. So yeah, I think it's a really interesting card.

Cozy Snap: 37:46

And it makes silver samurai a hell of a lot better, too. I think you can get rid of that iron man Now get rid of their car like it makes that better He comes with I don't care about the spotlights as much but it does come with corvus and scorn So like just like hey, welcome to discard you know week love that. It's the last card Yeah, it's gonna be the last card that comes out for the the the Ancient avengers or whatever they're calling this prehistoric avengers Kind of a weird name a lot of gods here and and just powerful beings is that maybe a better name here? But very very cool card nonetheless. Now. Lastly, this is not in the spotlight So this is probably a game mode card if we had to guess but we have to talk about it the first ghost rider Lizard is in stitches. A 2 6! How does that work? Well, he's got himself an on reveal that he will discard the lowest power card from your hand and then that card's power will be removed from this one. And so people looked at this card and they're like Man, this looks really bad because there's so many specific lines that you're gonna have to, you know, make sure that you play and, you know, if you just look at it as a whole A little bit awkward, but here's the thing Alex You got a new discard card at two big win. Just start there. Big win, new discard only at two costs. So you've got that action, but I, I think this con shoe is up there, but this is my next favorite card, especially. In tandem with Conshue. Playing this with Conshue I think is gonna be very interesting cause you can avoid Conshue and you can make this guy work. Alex, I know you've thought about this. You mentioned Iron Man with Conshue. Right? Iron Man going up to 12 power. Well, first of all you have Iron Man 0 power so nothing's gonna happen there. You just get a 2. You know, you get a two, six silver samurai actually, he's dead after we just said he might be alive. So you get that and you get iron man gone. But obviously we can all talk about what everybody's thinking about is Celine and the goblins back. Are they back? I

Alexander Coccia: 39:38

guess it depends on how they do math and Marvel snap land, because when you are taking away a negative eight. That sounds to me like you're adding eight to ghost rider, but then again, I'm not a math teacher. I'll leave it to the mathematicians in the comments to argue. But to me, it sounds like if you get rid of a ghost rider, you're adding eight power to the first ghost rider. And here, this line, Titan mode lines, right? Zabu turn one ghost rider turn to get rid of hobgoblin. Okay. This guy becomes a one to two 14 or whatever. And then what you do is with your now pumped. Original Ghost Rider, you play Ghost Rider, send the Hobgoblin back over, boom! Talk about that snap condition, baby.

Cozy Snap: 40:16

I mean, even at the simplest, first of all, that was that was great, I do love that. But even in the simple terms without, you know, having perfect card draw, I think just in general, the Hobgoblin, Alex, having a Hobgoblin, as Alex just said, Alex is the teacher, so I will leave the math to him. He can maybe I'll teach you math, bro. Yeah, whatever and negative eight. Okay, so negative eight to six that in theory bro You're getting yourself. What a 14 power card a 214 Now it's gonna be hard to always have that work out, but not really too I mean, I feel like this with selene on one even Is awesome like this and you're getting the activate card. Obviously these cards aren't always when you want to discard So like this is the first time you want to discard something awkward like this. This is a home run hit I think this is a very cool card You said your line, can I say mine?

Alexander Coccia: 41:07

Yes, go.

Cozy Snap: 41:08

Okay, so you have Conchu, I don't know how you're gonna get this all the way, but you have Conchu, right? You've got, turn two, you play down the first Ghost Rider. Who does he get rid of, Alex? He gets rid of, wait for it, Gore the God Butcher, negative one. Okay, so it goes up to a two seven. You're like, all right, two, seven gores gone. And then you have cons you, you have cons you playing cons. She brings back gore. You name it. I don't care. A five, a seven, a 12. You tell me a two, seven a con shoe. Plus this guy is not just going to wreck shop.

Alexander Coccia: 41:41

It is. It's, that's actually a nice line. I hadn't thought about gore. Gore would be pretty solid because it's, they're like pretty much all on reveals too, right? Pretty nice, Cozy. And then all your discard synergistic cards are gonna be on reveals. There's a ton of on reveals in those decks. Damn, Cozy's cookin Cozy's cookin You know what's gonna be so sad, though? When Glenn's listening to this, he's thinking clowns. I bet you, I bet you they thought of all this, and then when you discard a negative card, it actually takes away power. It doesn't matter. I bet you. They better not. They better. They'll like rewrite the, the calculus books. To make sure that we're sad.

Cozy Snap: 42:09

I think we're going to have a Mr. Negative, Gore, Agamotto deck with, with First Ghost Riders. So you get all these cards, you can Jane Foster all the spells to your hand. And then you can also, you can also bring some of them back with Conchu. I don't know. There's going to be some wild. This just, it seems like a freaking cool month.

Alexander Coccia: 42:26

It looks like to me that the reddit posts are going to write themselves when people say like second inner can't do math Because getting getting rid of ghost riders gonna turn the sorry getting rid of hobgoblin is gonna turn ghost right into a negative two

Cozy Snap: 42:39

probably Now we're gonna move on and we're gonna go into the what if season again These are a bit more in concept, but they are out there and I would say 60 percent of the cards that get made up end up making it with 40 percent getting some type of a cut change and altogether Ability shifted. So we might see that now the season The the season pass card that will be coming out Is going to be captain Carter now if you guys don't know and I might be wrong here What If? A lot of people know from Disney there's been now, I think, three seasons on it. That's where a lot of people were introduced to it. It was a running comic series. I remember my, like, my cousin had it. And I, there's some that were Like, What If? is cool because there's so many What If? scenarios. But Captain Carter has been long in The what if thing this is not just from the show even though maybe the art might be I I think I could be wrong though

Alexander Coccia: 43:33

Yeah so like captain carter is like Obviously a super iconic person from what if and it's one of the it's actually she's one of the first episodes, right? And it's funny because like i've actually been starting to dive into what if i've been diving into like the anime spider man That just recently came out i'm trying to i'm trying to catch up cozy And, I gotta tell ya, what I like about Captain Carter is because, like, Agent Carter herself was an extremely impactful, fascinating character from the MCU, especially in the early days of the MCU. Like, I loved Agent Carter as Cap, but that's a whole other conversation. Seeing this type of, like, Use of like, what if to create new cards? First of all, it makes me excited for snap because like, what this represents is their opportunity to like people say, well, you're going to run out of characters. Eventually you can only go to the wall for so long. Well now the, what if ability to like bring in these, what if style cards into snap really increases the pool of cards that are possible, which is kind of interesting. Right. But yeah, with captain Carter, I think one of the most notable. things is obviously it's ongoing, which is your other cards in the back row, gain this card's power. We haven't seen that much fixation on the positioning of cards before. And so we're talking about a new mechanic functionally in Marvel snap, which which I think is pretty fascinating. Cause usually you don't care where cards are positioned unless you're playing like a nihilist or move where the actual positioning of the cards will determine where they move or if they flip. Right. But yeah, no, I find this to be super fascinating. I'm really excited for it.

Cozy Snap: 44:54

Well, a good point. I think We you know with rocket and group coming out they did the rivals crossover So they had to kind of commit to some of those I I agree I think it's fine to get in different versions of cars, but what if makes it a lot cooler? I think and you can really think outside the box because there's some extremely cool concepts I think there's some weird concepts, but I think that's the whole point of it, right? You have to Carter Carter though for those that don't know and listening Is a forecast to power card at the time ongoing your other cards in the back row here gain this card's power Now obviously in snap This is what we would assume back rows the you know The row closest to cards and then the front row is the ones closest to the locations That's gonna how you know be kind of how it works. And I think this is a pretty cool design. You know, obviously just It at first you read it and you're like, okay, well, so it's like a, what a four, six, right? And then you also have to have captain carter in the front, but obviously with it being ongoing We have a lot of ways that you can manipulate that and make it work a lot better What do you think of captain carter as a card?

Alexander Coccia: 45:56

I think it's interesting Obviously, it's early so i'm still working on lines, but like right off the top captain america turn three captain carter turn four ironman turn five Captain America is going to buff both Captain Carter and Iron Man. Captain Carter is going to buff Iron Man again. And so then you get an absolutely insane lane with three cards. And then in that lane, maybe you throw down something like I don't know, like Omega red. I don't know. This is pure code, but you could do something with it. But that line makes a lot of sense, right? Cap America, Captain Carter, Iron Man, one location, boom, boom, boom. And they're all synergizing together. I think it's pretty cool.

Cozy Snap: 46:28

I like the idea of like doing Captain Carter, Mystique, Onslaught, like, I don't know, but like Captain Carter, Mystique, Moonstone, Onslaught, whatever, and then you can even live in Tribunal now, there's so much power there, but really just honestly with just Mystique and Captain Carter, that's like, man, you're pumping up that back line to win, right? Like that back line's looking really good, and then you can maybe Omega Red that, so then it's like, okay, that, that thing's not moving. Got a spectrum you can mess around with. I don't know. I think it's just cool. Anytime we get an ongoing card, we know how good Spectrum is and how good Onslaught is and all the cards fit in those molds, right? And Mystique. Okay, so those are the three cards. And now Moonstone, actually. Let me, let me preface that. Anything under, you know, three Moonstone. So we have cards now that can all be manipulated. And really, they go in those decks. Some, some can stand alone, but most of them are going to be kind of placed in those decks. And I think that's what represents a good ongoing guard. Can it stand alone? And how is it going to perform in that style of deck?

Alexander Coccia: 47:24

And I'm assuming, and I might be wrong, but I am assuming that Sam Wilson's shield will not buff her. That's one thing that's worth assuming. However, if the shield does buff Captain Carter, because she is a, some form of a cap, right? Like, I don't know, she's not Captain America. Definitely more of a cap than Britain. But she's got a shield. Damn it. Look at that shield. It's just got a bit of a different flag on it. Cozy. It's just got a bit of a different flag. She talks a little different, right? She got a little bit of an accent there, but there is a world where Glen might be thinking, Oh, she's a cap and maybe she gets buffed by that shield, which would be a very natural synergy.

Cozy Snap: 47:57

They need to, they need to either get the word captain America, or like they need to, like on the shield here, they need to be able to put. Captain America or to not make it as confusing. I think people just need to see that because it is cap. You're right. I don't think it is going to work personally, but it would be cool because it, you know, it works, right? Like even though it's not, yeah, America is Britain, but the shield would work right after all. But yeah, so definitely I think she is a interesting car, not near as good as Agamotto in my mind, but I do think that she's going to have some really cool play lines, really just going to work all together, you know, in that build well in the spotlight with Captain Carter. We've got Goliath coming. Goliath is a 2 1 Alex, and this to me, he kind of has a, I don't know about you, he gives off a little Blue Marvel feel, right? He's got also a little Blue Marvel kind of ability. Ongoing, plus one power for each other ongoing that you have in play. And as we just said with Captain Carter, it's all about how does this work in Spectrum, how does this work in Onslaught. This is just right away. The perfect spectrum card.

Alexander Coccia: 49:02

Oh yeah, buddy. This is amazing. This is a great car. At first of all, I'm shocked that this text didn't exist already. Like it seemed like such an obvious text line that like just didn't exist. But also this card is wild. It's a two one. And as you play ongoing cards, it just gets more power. Are you kidding me? Like, just even with Sam Wilson by itself, this is a 2 3, boom, right? Like, it's just crazy how good this card is. Not only that, it's good on later turns, right? Because obviously it's an ongoing card, so it'll benefit from existing ongoing cards. Dude, this card's wild. I think this is like a four or five star card. Like, I really like this card. I think it's gonna be very powerful, comes out the way it is.

Cozy Snap: 49:34

It reminds me of Speed, but even better. Like, Speed was like, did nothing fancy, but like, got good stat line. And like, Goliath does nothing fancy, good stat line. And on top of that, he's also going to be just played. Alongside all of it like this is we're finally getting I believe I saw something in the datamines about a move And finally getting this to we're finally getting what we said forever ago a Morbius for all the archetypes, right? Like that is what this kind of feels like in Goliath Very solid week and with captain carter even better cool stuff coming for ongoing with goliath Now we move on goliath is the first week second week I'm gonna i'm gonna allow you to introduce. This this card alex. I believe I want to know, do you know where this is, where she's from?

Alexander Coccia: 50:16

So I was told this is from what if, and I have no idea who this is. I don't even know how to say the name. Is it Kohori? I'm assuming it's Kohori, the reshaper of worlds.

Cozy Snap: 50:25

The double H throws me off. No, I think, yeah, I think it is Kohori. And it's a four, she's a four, six, right? So four, six, Alex, you're like, all right. We've seen this stat line before. What does Kohori do? On reveal for each card in your hand, give a friendly card plus one power.

Alexander Coccia: 50:41

Awesome.

Cozy Snap: 50:42

We're getting some cool, they're just trying to get Devil Dinosaur to get going, I feel like. They're just trying to get that card back.

Alexander Coccia: 50:49

They're like, hey, White Queen, you think you're hot? Take a look at Kohori, you stupid clown. Like, give me, like, tell me right now the White Queen is not feeling like a complete piece of trash. Like, this card is so much better. It's crazy. This is actually a very legit card. Like, body Coulson into this? Easy.

Cozy Snap: 51:03

This is a car that didn't need to exist and they could have just given this a white queen I think that that would have been a much better thing to happen Yeah, I know they don't get money from it because this is a very, very strong card. I mean, it's going to almost always be a 410 value, but then also I think the best part about is it just kind of fits anywhere. It fits into any deck really. I mean, the way that you play it out.

Alexander Coccia: 51:26

I just don't understand what she's wearing. Like, I don't want to get into this. But she has like this nice, like, you know, traditional dress. Is she wearing like, some sort of weird leather boot? Like, what is that? Like, I don't know who dressed her, but this is inappropriate.

Cozy Snap: 51:36

Yeah, it seems like she'd be cold. I think, I think it's cold back there. I can't tell. It looks cold.

Alexander Coccia: 51:43

We got to watch this episode before all this. What if I got to actually watch? What if we should watch? What? I don't

Cozy Snap: 51:48

know why I don't know this, but I've seen, I feel like I've seen them all, but it's a long time since I've seen the first one or at least the first series. Anyway, plus one note to all of it. There's a lot of cool lines that you can do with this. There's a lot of ways you can abuse this. There's stuff you can do with Wong or whatever. Like there's just cool things I think you can do. This is going to be a strong card. Like hands down a very good card, especially if it stays again. It's in concept. So we'll see but guys if you If you think that card's strong This is probably the one i'm most excited for just in theory because it seems like it's I don't know a while away A while's away until it actually gets implemented in the game infinity Ultron, you heard that right, 5, 6, it's a 5 cost 6 power card, on reveal, add 2 Ultron Infinity Stones to your hand and I was so giddy to hear that we can get another card with Infinity Stones and this one's a doozy Alex, first of all, they go to your hand, right? He's not gonna start in your deck. So you've got, you've got a lot of things kind of ha you know, or he's not gonna start, sorry, in your hand. So you got a lot of things you got to work through, right? But we're gonna go through all the stones, man. But in concept, what do you think of just this guy before we get into those?

Alexander Coccia: 52:53

I think it's cool. And my first read of those stones like Danny stones are super good. And I think that the power is mitigated by the fact that you only get two and you don't know which two you're going to get. But yeah, they're good. Infinity Ultron's good. I can see this card being made weaker because I think it's going to slap and I think that's going to be a real banger.

Cozy Snap: 53:11

So what these stones do, we're just gonna read them all. I'm not gonna say which one's the power stone, whatever. I'm just gonna go through what we've got here. So one stone is a 3 2 on going. Your on reveal abilities here happen twice. You get a 3 2 wonk, right? You get a wonk at three costs. Obviously very good but we'll get into that a bit more later. 3 2 on reveal, double infinity Ultron's power. Okay, you've got that going. 3 3 on reveal for each full location you have a friendly card there gets plus two power. And then at 3 4, OnReveal, move the lowest power enemy card here to InfinityUltron's location. 3 1, OnReveal, add a drone here and set its power to InfinityUltron's. And then 3 1, OnReveal, put a card here from your hand. From your hand to this location. There's something to talk about, but I mean, do all of these feel like they combo with each other? And depending on which ones you get, you can get some nutty stuff happening.

Alexander Coccia: 54:06

Yeah, you could definitely pop off on a couple of them, and there's a couple that seem a little weaker than the others, like the one that gives plus two if locations are full and stuff, that sounds like a placeholder, unless like I'm inebriated and I don't see the power there, but it seems like not great compared to some of the other ones. But what I like about Infinity Altron is the fact that it's a, it's a five. I really liked it's a five because it creates a situation where you play this five, six down, you get the stones to your hand and your opponent sweats thinking like, is it pretty all trunk? And all of a sudden like burst in power is cause you could also have hit it with Nikoi or something. And if you get the, the stone that kind of like increases its power or whatever, like they can't really rely on what you've done. Like, it's like, it's the ultimate head game. Of what Infinity Ultron is doing and I like that because of the mind stone element of, of who Ultron is. I don't know, I love the flavor of this card. I think it's really well designed.

Cozy Snap: 54:54

And I think they're all from the, the, the honor veal the, the mini Wong being there available. I think that is the snapper, right? So you get that one because all of these are on reveal at the moment. And so all of these. You know, you don't think it's that good, but even giving a friendly card plus two for full locations, you put that on top of the other one that does it twice and all of a sudden you have some crazy stuff. So doubling infinity old chance power, getting that twice as crazy, putting cards down from your hand there twice is stupid, crazy, like there's a bunch of stuff you can do and I would say outside of maybe like, yeah, a combo of two of them like. I feel like it has that snap potential that maybe even like copycat had in the sense of Right away, you could almost snap with this guy and you're looking pretty good because this guy will give He'll be the comeback king in some areas really able to do some powerful stuff

Alexander Coccia: 55:46

Dude, Joaquin Torres, turn 3, turn 4 Wong, turn 5, Infinity Altron, turn 6 Prophet.

Cozy Snap: 55:53

Well, these are 3 cost stones, though.

Alexander Coccia: 55:55

Yeah, but that's why you have turn 6, baby. What is Joaquin, isn't Joaquin 1 cost only? Oh, no! My heart! I was thinking about the actual, no, you're right. I was thinking about Thanos stones being 1 drops. Nevermind, my whole plan's ruined. Disaster. Alex is in shambles.

Cozy Snap: 56:09

No, it's okay. Wong before this, right? You play Wong, then you get the stones that double up again, then you get a Mystique for free pretty much right to copy that. No, I, I, I see the vision. But no really I think that they did this guy right and I think he I'm call me as I'm a I'm a fan of these generation They essentially have to come up with a bunch of cards when they do these but the agamotto one infinity ultron like doing all these like spell ban one time use stuff like I'm a fan. I think that should be what five costs are all about too, because I think that's such a cool unique spot for it. And and this one, this one seems like a winner to me.

Alexander Coccia: 56:45

Yeah, it seems like a fun way to close out a game. Play this, get some funny stuff happening on turn six. That your opponent not necessarily can like figure out or anticipate. Yeah, definitely. I like this design a lot.

Cozy Snap: 56:55

Now, this was probably one of the best episodes of What If Ever if you haven't seen it. Strange Supreme. Now, Strange Supreme, guys, is a two cost. Zero power card. Give this plus two power, being strange, whenever it merges. After each turn, merge one of your cards that didn't start in your deck. Into this very when you read this you're like, huh? Like what like what's going on with this card? And listen, I think it's pretty cool I think it's a 2 0 the guys got some you know, new combo potential but I also think more importantly that this is a card that Is it kind of an anti clog, anti junk card for starts? I like that. He creates board space off of things like like what we just talked about, right? Where it's like, yeah, there's banished cards. Well, now we have things like, if you're playing squirrels, or you're playing Thanos stones, like, you don't have to worry so much about all that space being taken up.

Alexander Coccia: 57:49

Yeah, no, he seems perfectly synergistic with something like a debris. You're taking up space on their side and you're just chomping down on your rocks, getting plus two for each rock. Yeah, 100 percent buddy. Moreover, if they throw something like a goblin over, like this might be where like the, the goblin synergy we were talking about with the first ghost rider and the next ghost rider, you play Serene Supreme there to munch up the, the hobgoblin, stuff like that, because it didn't start in your deck. I think that it's kind of neat, I think it's a cool design, and It's funny because I thought, I had this thought where like, as time has gone on, The limits of this board space in Marvel Snaps design has been somewhat of a factor. I've even joked in the past about having like an A Ram type mode, like all random, all mid, Which is like from MOBAs where basically it's just one mid location, Which kind of could be funny with unlimited space and stuff like that. But you know, custom game mode, who knows, but I do like the idea of like controlling space. Right. And we're starting to see cards like, obviously we have agony, we have Hulkbuster and strength supreme is another flavor of that, which helps to counter the the decks that have like those, not mill, but the junk side, right? Cause junk was so problematic for a while. And I think that's why they went so aggressively after someone like a white widow who you might even forget existed in the game. White widow talk about an absolutely like. Soul crushing nerf that card took something like string supreme feast on white widow So could you perhaps bring this card out and make white widow its old self again? I don't know Maybe

Cozy Snap: 59:06

what's that location the mind the rock mine location where all those rocks come out man It's like this one's just like yeah play me Yeah, I'll just suck all those up right or or just even yeah, just something like the hobgoblin the I mean this looks like it's actually going to be working with The first ghost rider against it like kind of that tech card because then you can maybe get a rise in some of the hobgoblin Stuff this looks like it can go against it This is a little bit off the beaten path here outside of Strange Supreme. I I I had something I totally wanted to bring up with Infini Infinity Old Sean that I don't we just whiffed past it. Bro, Quinjet, there's two cards. Quinjet with this, I think is busted, okay? Cause then he makes all those three costs, two costs, and you can play three of those stones. But it's like, okay, how does that work? But even more so, I had to bring this up. I think Symbiote Spider Man. It is freaking awesome with Infinity Ultron because you play Symbiote Spider Man down, you play Ultron down, then you do the activate and you get four of the stones. And you somehow could get that working with the Quinjet or just having more options to play with. It was so, it was too cool. And I had those on my notes that I was like, man, I got to bring that up. Aren't those interesting interesting lines. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:13

Symbiote Spider Man existed. So yeah, cool. And or magic. That's a card that existed in Marvel. Snap cozy. But it is a pretty cool synergy. It's a good call.

Cozy Snap: 1:00:22

Hydra Stomper. Next card. Ongoing plus one power for each card you moved this

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:27

game. But I'm thinking like Scream Deck type things. And if you're moving their cards with Polaris, I still think it counts.

Cozy Snap: 1:00:33

So, it being an ongoing at 3 1. I, this seems like another pretty solid card.

Alexander Coccia: 1:00:39

Yeah, like you do Scream 2, Hydro Stomper 3, and then you start doing like like shenanigans with Steggy, with Arrow, with Magneto, Magneto Feasts, right? Because now Magneto is buffing this each time it moves a card. So if Magneto pulls four cards, Scream only gets one proc, Hydro Stomper gets four, right? So like, yeah, this is a huge Magneto card. I think it's actually pretty neat. But then Heimdall too, no? Is this well, yeah,

Cozy Snap: 1:01:05

like I feel like this is a this is a card that can scale to really good potential Maybe this is finally when red wing can be okay Probably not because then what other cards would you play with it? But this is what I was mentioning earlier the morbius of these different archetypes We're finally getting we've been waiting for a card like this for a while. It's a bit getting power As you do what the archetype wants to do.

Alexander Coccia: 1:01:26

Yeah. Inexpensive scalers. They're super, super valuable. And in this case, I think that hydrostomper is legit because as you mentioned, you could disrupt them by a magneto and move their stuff around and buffet, and you can also consider Heimdall to buff your own side and not worry about them as well. There's so many ways you can activate it.

Cozy Snap: 1:01:42

Now I was mixing him up with what Dumb Dumb Duggin does. On going, your cars in the front row get plus one power. This is essentially what I thought the other one was doing. And to me, you got, what, just a 2. 4 baseline, but this is another cheap. Cheap little card that I think is going to work in the package quite nicely.

Alexander Coccia: 1:02:01

No, yeah, honestly, it seems like it's pretty legit. I don't think it has. I think I like Hydra Stomper better, but still like I, I would not mind being able to give a Dum Dum a little bit of a run run. See if he can do a little bit in the deck in Marvel Snap. I think the design of these cards is actually kind of fascinating, which I like. Like we're coming from a season which like I don't want to talk about like negatively on Red Wing and stuff or like Thaddeus Ross, but like they're just not quite as exciting. These ones feel a little more exciting.

Cozy Snap: 1:02:27

They feel like they, yeah, they definitely synergize better together to almost all the seasons are like kind of working in tandem with each other, which I like, especially this, you know, this season, Topaz three, four, Alex, after you play a card here, move it to the middle location. Why would you want that? What do you see with Topaz? Here's the three, four.

Alexander Coccia: 1:02:45

What do I see with them? I mean, it feels, it kind of feels like grandmaster for move, except when you, you're able to like immediately prockets effect, right? Like imagine you play just vulture on him. You play vulture on him. It throws it to the middle. Then you go spider. On turn four, like you could vulture ghost spider on turn four, right? I think it's pretty neat. I, I, I don't know, I actually could see this being removed in power. Like, I think that, like, it could be maybe a 3 3, cause I, I do think that synergy with move is pretty high. Especially when you consider, like, you have, like, the bounce and little move little movers type stuff. Where you could, like, repeatedly reprock on top of this. So yeah, like I believe that like we don't have the text on the screen I believe this one here you could reprock on right? Yes, you can once per game or anything right now You can I

Cozy Snap: 1:03:25

could see being

Alexander Coccia: 1:03:26

abused.

Cozy Snap: 1:03:26

This is what we should have gotten this season with red wing This is this is the red wing card I mean because what I just said the thing that sucks with red wing is you're hoping to like when are you gonna play it? What card are you gonna use to activate it? What's great about this guy is you play him down and then you, you always have that activation to move a card. Not like Madame Web, you gotta wait, right? This is immediate. So I, I think this will be a cool piece for Move. I think it's gonna maybe cause some problems though, depending on the But it's all in the middle location, which is nice. And it can be a problematic location for Move. Like back in the day, you would only play Storm in the middle. Remember, it just shuts down Move altogether. Listen bro, we just went through a Million cards in the game. They're all coming out. Which one sticks out to you the most as we close things out?

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:08

Star brand. Star brand is the one I want.

Cozy Snap: 1:04:11

Yeah, that's just a cool one. It's so simplistically cool. We talk about that all the time, but just like very simplistically cool. I'm definitely going with Agamotto. I think that one's just going to be. That's gonna pull me away To play this game a lot more. It just seems like a fun car that there's infinite designs for

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:26

Yeah, agamotto and the infinity ultron are like the coolest but me personally It's like i'm just hyped up like I really want that 310 chunk, man I want to make some magic happen with star brand because I just want to play a deck that I've not played in a long time. I want to play some sauron. So Cozy. You gave me homework last week, sir. And I gave you homework and you know, I can already see it in your eyes. You forgot to do your homework. Did you watch the intro to the samurai pizza cats?

Cozy Snap: 1:04:49

My dog ate my, my, my dog ate cozy. It's like a 32nd

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:54

intro. You couldn't even handle

Cozy Snap: 1:04:56

it. I,

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:56

oh

Cozy Snap: 1:04:56

man. And

Alexander Coccia: 1:04:57

you did yours too. I did mine. I, I forced my wife to watch the the first episode. Of Daredevil. Wasn't it good, dude? And, you know what, dude? She was like, alright, that was better than what you usually make me watch. I make her watch everything else. She was actually like, okay, this was actually like a show I could watch. It

Cozy Snap: 1:05:14

feels like a show, right? Rather than like, a superhero show.

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:17

Superhero show,

Cozy Snap: 1:05:18

yeah. Okay, so did you, what did you think?

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:20

I thought

Cozy Snap: 1:05:20

it was

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:21

awesome. I thought it was cool. I love the idea that he was able to like, cheat. With his own client with like the heartbeats and stuff. I'm like, I can, I can feel what he's feeling. You know what I mean? Like it was so cool.

Cozy Snap: 1:05:32

I think it's got it all. I think it's funny. I think it's like well written super well shot. Yeah. It's, you would never have thought that they could make their devil into that good of a show. And dude, if you watch it enough, man, the new new season's coming out. So you'd be able to catch up with the rest of the world over here.

Alexander Coccia: 1:05:49

Yeah, so obviously we only watched the first episode, but I think I could even convince her to continue watching with me. That's, it's a hard sell. Me being like, hey, do you want to watch an entire series of Marvel? And like, she's like, bruh. Like, I, I joked about it before, but my wife and I have very, like, convert, like, divergent interests. Like, we just don't watch similar stuff. And anytime I make her pick a movie, like, she picked this movie. It was like someone with Will Ferrell. Like, it's called You're Cordially Invited or something. When I tell you this movie was so bad. I was like, why are we watching this? Like, this is such a waste of everyone's time. I got, it was great though. I got my daily missions done on a snap and everything. Cause that was great. That's what I was doing while the movie was on. But like, Daredevil was great, man. And Oh, I have a question and like, don't go into spoilers or anything. Cause obviously like whenever we don't want to ruin it for people that like, maybe you guys want to watch Daredevil as well, but does he not have like superhuman strength or anything? Cause like, he's just a dude who's blind and punching people in the face. Like, he seems vulnerable in a way that like, I did not expect. Like, I don't know Daredevil well, but he doesn't seem like he is a superhuman.

Cozy Snap: 1:06:44

You gotta watch it.

Alexander Coccia: 1:06:45

Gotta watch it. That's the answer? That's

Cozy Snap: 1:06:47

my answer. Yeah, I'm not gonna spoil it. He could have radioactive laser beams for all you know, coming. Okay, so he's Cyclops. Episode 2. Yeah, it's good dude. It ages very well. There's a lot to it. There's a lot of familiar people you'll know, definitely from Snap. And I think what they do best in that show is they they make it believable. There's a lot of realism into it and that's I think one of the coolest things about it. There's a good there's good love stories There's good. It's got it all man. And if you like the Punisher, oh, you're gonna be You can be in for a good treat.

Alexander Coccia: 1:07:18

All right, cool. And you know what's funny about Marvel shows that we've been watching? This is my attempt at a segue here. Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ross ironically makes an appearance in the Spider Man animation, which I thought was pretty cool. He talks with Mr. Osborn. I'm like, that's, that's Thunderbolt Ross. Oh my gosh. That is the Redhawk. Damn it. It was pretty cool. That was the most excited I'd been about Thaddeus since he came into Marvel Snap because quite frankly, this card is not great. It is a 2 2. That when your opponent ends a turn with unspent energy, you draw a card with 10 or more power and we both came, you came in at a one and then like you ho hum to a two. Right? and I came in at a two and I'll have to tell you, I do think it ultimately falls as a two star card. Its stats. It currently runs a 49% win rate at a 7% popularity. It has a negative cube rate. But I gotta tell you in my play experience with him. When he's drawing cards, he feels good. Like drawing cards is like, Oh man, this is free real estate. You know what I mean? But he's useless later in the game. Playing him on turn two though, feels great. I feel like he is perhaps slightly understated, but his effect is strong. I came away more impressed than I expected to be. And I think that part of the challenge with Thaddeus Ross, that a lot of people just punted on him and had no interest in the spotlight cash and no interest in getting him as a whole. And I do come away saying like, you know what? He's not great. But I think he's better than expected, but still not worth getting in any shape or kind of like in any way or form. Like he's definitely not worth getting, but I did find myself appreciating him more often than not, in particular when he was played early, I mean, obviously.

Cozy Snap: 1:08:52

But here's my question about him. Did he make the deck a better than with him out of it? And I don't think the answer is yes. I think that there's other better 2 costs that you would have rather have in his spot. And so even though he came, I think he's a 1 star. I, I, because he does, I get it, like he does do the thing and every now and then. But people love to spend energy and there's just If he was, we've gone back to this how many times, if he was a 1, there would be a 1 cost, there's a way to get him in there. There's a way to make it work potentially. At the 2, it's just way too competitive at this point in time. It's just, there's just too much going on, and it just doesn't, and it's also the niche deck that he's in by design doesn't need a lot of extra help. And I think that's a lot of it too. Yeah, he's a disappointment. I, I, I think I, he's exactly what we thought, though. I don't think we were, we gave him a one and a two, so he kind of landed where we thought.

Alexander Coccia: 1:09:47

Yeah, he definitely did land where we thought, but I guess what I'm trying to say is like, when I was playing him, and even when I'm playing him to finish the, the weekend mission or whatever, like, I'm like, hmm, I think this card's bad, but here he is drawing two cards for me in a game.

Cozy Snap: 1:09:58

You

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:01

know what I mean? And I'm like, do I really think that that's a bad result? Like, it's obviously not a bad result. And there were times where I was like, oh wait, like something I hadn't considered as well, is that like, if you play him on 2 and they float energy there, they didn't even understand the risk of that floated energy. But you play him on 2, and then they, the end of the turn floats, and you draw on 2. So you can catch them by surprise from that standpoint, right? Which I think is helpful. And he has immediate synergy with Red Hulk because when they, if you draw into Red Hulk with his effect, Red Hulk will still take the buff, which is pretty interesting.

Cozy Snap: 1:10:33

What if it said when you or your opponent ends a turn with unspent energy?

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:37

I think that'd be so broken. He'd have to be way less. Because if you're floating energy by your, like, well think about like, Bruce Banner. How much better this is than Bruce Banner then? Drawing cards because you're floating energy? Like, you, yeah, that would be absolutely crack cozy. That would be nuts. If

Cozy Snap: 1:10:51

they made him a 3 cost, I think they could do it. Because I think at that point, so late in the game, you'd have to be skipping on 4,

Alexander Coccia: 1:10:59

Yeah, that's true. That's true. And like, yeah, but I think that like having the agency of yourself skipping energy and drawing cards is probably crazy. That's probably pretty dangerous. But as a whole, like, again, he's definitely 100 percent skippable. We're not gonna just keep railing on this guy because like he is 100 percent skippable. My concern is if they buff him to like a 2 3. He's honestly not bad. Like, if he's a 2 3, he's not bad at all. And I think that But again, as you mentioned, like, the decks he's seeing play right now, Like, I'm looking at the stats right now, Basically, he's running a 55 58 percent win rate across a number of different shells of Surtur Skar. Which is exactly what we expected across in Hella. He's currently running a 52 percent win rate, but a very low average cube rate. So it's probably not recommended. Hello. It was interesting. Cause like you're drawing chunks that you can then discard. And by thinning the deck, you get a chance to draw Hella, right? Cause Hella itself won't get drawn. Cause it's a six nine. Nice. But ultimately with Thaddeus, I think he's a hundred percent skippable. And we, my friend, I think are ready to move on because like, unless there's something else you want to close it. But like, yeah, Thaddeus, he is what we expected.

Cozy Snap: 1:12:02

The only thing I'll say in closing is what we said last time is he does have that one thing about him that there's going to be cards coming out with 10 power all the time that, you know, you're going to want access to. And, and Agamotto is a great one that we just talked about. Agamotto is such a powerful card. Now he's got the card that can draw them into your hand, but I mean, there's some stuff that just getting them in your hands can be really nice to have. And then you can do some, so like. My point is, there's always going to be stuff that you're going to want, you know, to have him in there and he does do the thinning. So, yeah, a card that's going to age well and if they did take him to a 2 3, then you have a card that's going to age well that also sits nice in that 2 slot with a purpose.

Alexander Coccia: 1:12:38

Yeah, so, I mean, at the end of the day, Glenn has said multiple times, he wants every single card that you draw to be exciting in some way. Thaddeus didn't quite hit that this week, however, there's a chance that in the future he will hit that and he will be an exciting card. And It's also challenging. And this is one thing I just want to end on here. It's like when a card is universally kind of understood at not being exciting, they get a card that nobody wants to get pretty much. No one gets it. No one experiments with it. And the car just dies. Immediately after release, you really, you create your release video. It's predictably made, but then like the cooking kind of ends. And the reason why I bring this up is because like when I was testing bullseye bullseye looked terrible. Like, at first glance, it did not feel good, and a lot of people, I was like, people were coming into my stream from other streams saying like, yeah, it's mid, everyone hates it, everyone thinks it sucks, and then, like, we stumbled into the Frigga shell that ended up popping off, and so it's like, did Thunderbolt Ross get that, did it get the attention, did, did we really cook with it, but then again, like, where else outside of Surtr was it gonna go, like, we, like, you know what I mean, it was kind of like, it was a one trick, And the one trick was not good enough. So I think you're right. We can grow into Thunderbolt Ross over time. This probably feels like a series four card before anything else. Like this is a, this is the prototypical should not have released a series five, in my opinion. But yeah, I absolutely agree that over time, even star brand. Bro. I was going to say Sauron,

Cozy Snap: 1:13:54

actually, this card's legit and Sauron, but I actually liked this card a lot in Sauron because you've got the zero, whatever play, but you want to save that sometimes, but then you just play them on two. You play Sauron on three and then it's just kind of like. You just do what you do with that deck anyway, and then if they mess up and they don't do their energy, then you're just getting more of your big stuff that you can end up playing, and with something like Starbrand now. I, dude, that actually is kind of cool. Like, is this sort of, cause, I was actually looking at his tech, I'm like, okay, it's not ongoing, right? That's the biggest thing about the Soran play. So, like, this could be, this could work in that Soran build. Right? And then you've got Yeah, cause you

Alexander Coccia: 1:14:28

get Typhoid, you got Starbrand, you got Red Skull. And

Cozy Snap: 1:14:30

Scar fits in there, and he just is gonna work and do what Scar does. And, I, man, okay. Hold on, I'm telling you, it's not the end of him. Don't get him. But it's not the interval.

Alexander Coccia: 1:14:39

I agree. I agree. Don't get him. He might age like fine wine. Maybe. I don't know about fine. like fine wine. I don't know about fine wine. He's gonna age like mid wine like that you get at a box. Like do you buy wine at Walmart in the States? He'll age like gas station wine. I don't know.

Cozy Snap: 1:14:53

He'll get gas He'll age like gas station wine where it's like It's like, it's going to be better than it was, you know, it'll be better to

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:03

feel something and it's there. So you got it. It's like when you're at the gas station and you're hungry and they got a slim Jim and you're just like, I know this sucks, but

Cozy Snap: 1:15:10

it gives me substance. I might as well have it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:15:13

That's it. Yeah. The the Thaddeus Ross, the slim Jim of Marvel standards. Yeah, we, yeah, absolutely. We're selling them really hard here. Now, something that should not need selling, sir, is Card Mastery. And man, I've got a lot to say, and I know you do too. And, you know what, this is one of those things where I want to just preface this by saying that as a whole, I believe that this is a positive addition to the game. I like what they've done. I think that it has its place. And I like the fact that it's, it's free and it's like a free engaging system you can kind of, kind of engage with. But, I'm sorry dude, this ain't Card Mastery. This is not any form of mastery if the only thing it's mastering is maybe credit card mastery But I think they've named it completely wrong and set the expectations completely off.

Cozy Snap: 1:15:59

Yeah, I was going to I was looking over here I was going to To one of my masters here just to have it up on screen. Yeah, I mean I said it at the end of my OTA video. I had a little Unplanned speech on, on Card Mastery. There's a few things about it, right? So, what I said in my review of it is, number one, it obviously does highlight what Snap does well, and that's like art design. And, and, and, and that. Right? We know the art was gonna do well, props to the UI. Okay, we're digging here a little bit. Probably the, all this looks fine, looks good to me. I think the, the effects look cool, the for the most part these reactions, these are kind of cool. There's a lot of duds, like with all, any, any girl that's blonde in this game rip, because they're all the same, but like, there's some that are really fun and really funny and, and it's a shame that a ton of people use these things. Hopefully this makes it people use them more but. I think where, where a lot of it falls short is, number one, you know, they worked hard to bring this back into the game because people wanted it. People wanted it because when it was advertised to come to the game, it said imagine using Deadpool and getting at the whatever amount of power and you can, you know, climb up the mastery chart, right? So that's why people wanted it, right? So the way that they pitched that. And I I said in my video where their stance was like, We have a lot of ways to reward players, and you can already get rewarded by playing a card. And so we wanted this to be a different way to reward players. And I just, I think that's a bunch of, a bunch of, a hullabaloo, right? Like, to me, that, I feel like what I said is in the game cycle. This was such a easy way to have really cool engagement and There are cards that I play so much bro I play so much agent colson and I only have them at like level 23 or whatever right and I it's like I don't play thor Really ever, and I've got a maxed out Thor, right? So that to me, I is number one. It's like, it doesn't show mastery of a card. I wanna see a bounce player, and I wanna see that that guy plays a lot of bounce. Thus he has the mastery around it. And so when you say it's a good implementation to the game, I think sure. But also they need to, it doesn't, it just is Abu, it's the same thing about Al albums, right? You're like, oh, it's a good implementation. You get free stuff from it. But it just. I just don't know what, I don't know, I'm not, I, I, They need to, they need to add where you can get low XP for playing the card. I think that fixes a lot of it, or rename it. That's it.

Alexander Coccia: 1:18:33

Dude, a hundred percent, like, there is no question this is named the wrong thing. This is not character mastery. This is like character progression. Like, this is some, it's, it's not mastery at all. Like, okay, we talked about this a long time ago, when character mastery was fixed. You talked about Smite. I talked about Dota. And Dota has, like if you have Dota Plus, you actually do a level progression on the characters you play. You get level progression for winning games, right? You get progression for losing games, you get more for winning. But what's interesting is there's challenges that happen every single week. Basically the way the challenges work, if you're playing a hero that can like root other heroes, if you root two or more heroes three times, You get like a hundred bonus XP for that week. If you get like 10 kills or whatever in a match, you get bonus XP. If you accumulate like extra power via, like, you know, if you're Ironman and you double a location up to 50 power, you get a hundred extra, extra XP. Not only that, then they have these things called relics. We're like, just like, Oh, every single time you perform a certain action, you get additional XP. And it's all based on playing the hero. And the way that works is that when I see someone and they have a level 30 on a hero in, in Dota or in League of Legends or in Smite and they're icons 30, I know that's not just a credit card that they, they have extra skins and that's how they progress that account. They played that hero. They legitimately know what's up. That hero could, might not be meta, but if you have a level 30 Crystal Maiden or whatever in Dota 2, I don't care if that, that thing's meta or not. That means you know how to play that hero and you're going to be effective on it. Because that's what mastery is. It's like you have accomplished all these goals to showcase that, yes, I am a balanced player. There is a reason why my Toxin has all these gold sparkles around it. It's because I have bounced so many cards with Toxin. I've gotten him over 10 power so many times. Or I've done all these things. I have mastered this archetype. I have mastered this card and I'm showcasing that today. The only thing that you can use to master card mastery today is your credit card. And that's the only thing that pisses me off.

Cozy Snap: 1:20:32

And people saying, well, like if you play a card a lot, you're going to split it a lot. Like that's just not true. Like in the, in the amount of XP you're getting. Or those initial splits, like it being retroactive is really cool. And I think the tech, they couldn't figure out if I'm being quite honest, I think they wanted it to be retroactive. Deadpool getting 200 power in a game. They had no way to figure out how to make that retroactive. And then they, then they have this whole. Hurdle to go through of like people are pissed at the redo the things. I would almost rather 20 objective on Deadpool that I had to redo do and not even almost I definitely would rather that The blunt truth of this Alex is to me. Okay, is that it's it's just it's another thing That is another thing to get more Spending and I it's just at this point. It's not even surprising to me and it just That's what it is. Say what you will, it's cosmetic, I totally get it guys, and feel the way you want to feel. I think that the way they did the rewards track is cool, maybe they could have thrown in the emotes, I don't know, whatever. But, that's fine. The bottom line though is, I just don't understand how, I just don't understand, it, it, things must be bad financially over there, I don't know, I just don't know, or it's just at the top that these are the decisions that are being made. It's not hard to have made this. Not about variants and not about money. It just wasn't that hard. And, and it is made that way. In fact, it's made that way to so much of an extent that even, like, this was the other thing that I just was like, what the heck, right? So let's say Thor, cause I've spent who knows how much on Thor variants so I've had his masteries all the way up and I got my gold diamond. Thing, which is cool, right? I'm like, oh, nice. I got my gold diamond thing and on release, dude, I don't know about you, but I go over to my, my Thor and I'm like, okay, gold Thor, red back. Let's get this on. Oh, wait, hold on. Okay. Well, let me go down to my, wait a second. Why can't I get my gold diamonds on my gold back? And then I'm like, oh my god, that just unlocks it as a base, and then I have to split to get it, it, So, then you have what essentially is, people who don't spin to spin to mastery, and then the people that do spin, Hey, cool, you gotta get the gold back with this, and spin, It's a, it's a bunch of hocus pocus, dude, it, it's so infuriating, it's just, to me, it's just like, I don't understand it, man. And this is where my frustrations come from. Two years do we have been the the leaders cheerleaders for this game in a lot of ways. And, and it's at this point, it's just like, I don't know, I, I, clearly a good chunk of my presence is around this game, and it just sucks that I have to be negative about this kind of stuff, because it's just obvious at this point, it's just a bummer.

Alexander Coccia: 1:23:21

It is, and it's unfortunate, because like, what you're essentially saying is like, they diluted the splits, so that if you want to even get this with gold, It's now even harder because there's so many other, like, accidental things with the spirals and stuff. There's so much, which on paper is cool because like, there's so many customization options. But part of the customization of Marvel Snap is mixing the flares with the backs. Like, that's the whole thing. And now, if you unlock your Character Mastery 30 Diamond Stars, now you have to try to split into that. It's so much harder and now it's investing even further. But the other side to that is now you're doing splits on a card. It's already at thirties. You're not getting credit for the splits. And it's like, Oh my gosh, like you're not actually progressing any further. You're just diving for splits, which is still cool, but it would have been nice, especially at that level. If you would have just been able to apply the unlocked base. Kind of crackles and stuff to the backdrops that you get, which, I mean, maybe there's a reason, maybe like it creates it, it gets rid of the hamster wheel that they perhaps wanted, but I absolutely agree. It was really frustrating. Like I do not have a single card. I'm using the gold diamonds on that I've unlocked because there's no point like I have better. I have ink splits God splits I got all these splits with crackles and gold and everything. They just simply look better There's no reason for me to use the gold thing on the base the base or in the background Like it's just it's kind of unfortunate. It feels like you're They must have known, like when they were testing it, they must have known people are going to want to do this. They know,

Cozy Snap: 1:24:49

and I think that's the thing. I think you can sit here and say, Well, it's fine that it came to the game, right? We got a lot of free stuff from it. And like, yes, you are correct. But that doesn't mean it, it doesn't mean that it could have been Worlds Better. Or if it was just called like, you know, Variant Super Plus or something. I don't know, like whatever, just anything other than the whole card mastery. And it's the build up to it, right? And like, you guys wanted it, we brought it. It you gotta call a spade a spade. And this isn't being overly negative, guys. I would have said this two years ago, I would have said it now when it came out. I, I think that, to me, you know, used Mule Nier four times to get Thor up to blank power is such a cool thing. Because then what that does is it creates an amazing replayability loop for me to really have that as an objective. Okay, I don't care about my rank anymore at infinite, right? A lot of people get to infinite, they stop playing, or a lot of people get to whatever because they've done their job. But this is like, okay. Oh, man. I really want that Deadpool next level. Oh, okay. So I've got to get Deadpool to 60 power and I got to clone that. Okay. Let me do a hundred plus games. They would have had more, they would have made more money probably, or at least more people playing the game and having that You know, statistic go up, whether whoever looks at it, if they did that, I would play way more if I had these objectives and these many things. And then if I see that Deadpool, I'm like, yo, props to that guy, bro. He did it. He got that one. He got, he got a 10, 000 Deadpool, whatever that, you know, like, that's insane. That's really good. Or he played him in over a thousand games. That was such a home run hit of an idea. And it turned into a variant splits. Yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:26:27

Yeah, no, it's disappointing, and even then, like, so the variant splits are the only thing that actually progresses the experience of the card that you actually have a factor of like, Oh, I actually play this card. I'm able to split it more often. That's the only thing. They don't even include avatars. Like, you fill, you fill our collection track with avatars and garbage, and the avatars don't count towards the character mastery. That doesn't make sense to me. That's a little disappointing. Even if it was just 15 points or whatever, just give me something for these stupid ass avatars that honestly suck 99 percent of the time. Give me something for them. I mean, first of all, there's, there's a couple of things as well. The bananas, I don't understand what the fascination with the bananas is. Like I'd maybe I just don't get it. Maybe I'm an old man. I don't get the bananas. And there's even a thought to say that if you could like, let's say you're on the process of unlocking things, right? I think it unlocks it automatically for us on the first get go, but like on new cards, I'm just not going to unlock the first whatever number of levels, because I was thinking if I don't unlock bananas and all the garbage. And I only unlock refraction at level 10 and everything above it. Do I increase the odds of getting good splits and good flares? You know what I mean? Cause I, I'm just not even including the bananas and the garbage in the splits at all. Like I'm not even unlocking those. So I, and if I'm just jumping ahead and unlocking those other things, could that potentially work? I don't think that's an intended function of the design, but if you're talking about diluting all the good splits by having all these so ho hum ones, then like, maybe that's an option.

Cozy Snap: 1:27:49

Yeah, the bananas crack me up, or the, the, the spinning wheel, whatever, backgrounds on half of those

Alexander Coccia: 1:27:55

spinning wheels are cool with hip, hips though. Dan Hipstonks went up with those spinning wheels. There's a,

Cozy Snap: 1:27:58

like, like, to the point of what we could say is cool about it, like, you know, point blank, there are some really cool things that you can build from this, like the, the art style and the customization has gone up tremendously. Like, that's super cool. Being where we are in the game right now, I think that's my whole point about it is That's where it feels like it just doesn't, it doesn't matter as much, right? It just doesn't, like, for instance, like, Storm here with there's like a stormy background. Like, dude, this is so cool. I like, I love this. Yeah. This is such an idea. But it's just the other things around it that just disappoint.

Alexander Coccia: 1:28:34

Yeah. And you know, it's unfortunate because like, I think that there are a lot of really good things about this, especially if you're relatively free to play player. And I, you know, I'm thinking Alex, you just free to play player. This whole thing's pay to win on the collection track. I get it. However, what I will say is that like for splits or cards where I don't have many splits. I actually found it interesting because, like, the refraction effect that you unlock at level 10, I think is really cool. It's what foil should have been the whole time. And there's cards I just, I don't play a lot, but I might have, like, gathered some, some variants on, like Yellowjacket. I got a bunch of Yellowjacket variants, but I don't actually play Yellowjacket, right? But I'm able to create that refraction effect and actually customize the card so it looks way better than the base ever did, even though I honestly don't play that card very much. But then again, what's that saying about the card mastery? I am not a master of Yellowjacket at all. It takes me a second to even remember what he does. Like, bro, like, come on, you know what I mean? So it's, it's not living up to the name or the hype. Even though, honestly, you can see that effort went into this. You can see that, like, there's artists that put their heart into this. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's some good stuff here, but it's not character mastery.

Cozy Snap: 1:29:37

Well, a couple things. First of all, I will say this, for those that are watching this, that this Stormback, this one is actually sick, okay? This one actually works really well, because this one doesn't have a good, this doesn't have a background, and this is animated. This is awesome. This is This is one I would rep, no question. Like, I don't need the gold, whatever, but besides the point, Comic Con year one, which we're going on two years from, away from, okay, was when we first saw the reaction kits, and they said that every single character is going to get a reaction kit. So we're almost two years away from the implementation after the artwork was done. Which is crazy to think about, right? They also now have to commission this for every single card coming to the game. So that's also like a, whatever they're gonna have to be putting into. As well as the emotes. I just think, in general, they missed the point of the emotes. They missed the point of the reaction sets a little bit. And it just took, took that time. Took a long time to get those going. Is the art great? Yes, of course it is. Because guess what? It's Marvel Snap. And they do a good job with all of these effects. Blizzards, for those that haven't seen them on cards, you know, I'm popping some of these up. Confetti one's cool. You got stuff like, hey, Jubilee card, throw this on there, right? They obviously kind of like, teed you up to do some really cool and make them work. And yeah, to your point, you know, gold prism, this isn't the best card to look at it, but, but all the, all the, all the new ones to the galactic storm background, you can't really see it here, but that's, that's awesome. But of course I can't do the galactic storm background with it, with the effect. Right. Because that's, I gotta wait for that. But yeah, I, I've said what I need to say here. And I, at this point, it's like, it's just another thing, right? Like it's just like, okay. Well, it's here now it's here to stay. So,

Alexander Coccia: 1:31:15

yeah, what I'll end this conversation on was that fact that like one of my favorite things about Marvel snap was that it felt like it learned the lesson from games that came before it. Like we saw, like, I, I tried play, I play a little bit of Hurston here and there, and like the length of the turns just drags me down. It's heart, it's heartbreaking to sit there, like in battlegrounds for like 120 seconds. I'm like, are you kidding me? 120, I have like a book beside me. I'm like, man, cause snap is so snappy. They learned lessons, right? And then with character mastery, it's like, did no one play Dota two? Did no one play smite? Did no one play anything else with these types of progression systems? They didn't learn the lessons from the games that came before them and it cost them here. But you know what cozy? I got great news. We got some absolute banger questions. For the snapchat mailbag and we got a couple of marvel snap ones, but you know, we don't like to start with the marvel snap ones. We like to start with gum pun who said in the 80s into the 90s computer games had a 1 900 number That you could call to get info on how to complete a hard quest I spent a few bucks now and then and I think they're referencing when we were discussing the water temple in Zelda being so difficult And I remember being like having like 1 800 numbers and stuff that you could call to legitimately get advice on how to beat things

Cozy Snap: 1:32:24

Oh, yeah, dude. I watched actually something on it was on Twitter the other day There was like a blast of the past thing and this guy was like, it's like hey, man I'm stuck here at the Zelda. There's the white sword. I see it I don't know how to do it and the guy's job was like to tell him Yeah, how to get the sword I thought that was so funny. And what a what a lost Era, I would call a number every now and then like hey, I see the mastery and i'm playing this card a lot But it doesn't let me get it. Do you know why this is happening? Mr? Ben brought a second dinner. But yeah, I that Blast the past and also a lot of zelda fans But I could talk we could do a whole podcast on zelda if you guys wanted to damn it. Love the game

Alexander Coccia: 1:33:02

But he thought of old Zelda Ryuk 00 said you guys talked about the Zelda games for a small minute and my spirits lifted Still my absolute favorite series even I'm not if I'm not hot on the switch games and it's funny cuz like Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask like they Really are some of my favorite games of all time Like they they like define my childhood to some degree like I remember playing those games long and talking about like Call the 1 800 number. I remember, tell me if you've ever done this before, I remember going to like convenience stores and stuff, and like reading, like, guides. Like, meeting kids, going in the store, reading the guide, figuring out how to do something, and then putting it back on the shelf. Like, we were the reason why they started bagging them, so you couldn't do

Cozy Snap: 1:33:41

that. You know what I mean? Oh yeah, dude, for sure. Man. Yeah, for those that, what, play Zelda out there, let's see, some of the, some of the core memories. First of all, the music's insane. Going, the Forest Temples will always be one of my favorites. Ocarina of Time, the music track for that, I, I, I could listen to while I work out. An absolute fantastic masterpiece. I think Twilight Princess is underrated. It is a very Very solid game. The dungeons weren't as well done. I think that you have the old dungeon design, and you have the new switch design, and how they give you the freedom. And I think both work, and they're both different. But, to me, you have the gameplay loop of dungeon and item in the dungeon. That, to me, slaps.

Alexander Coccia: 1:34:18

Nintendo if you want to make like a billion dollars easy like easy money All you got to do is remaster and not even just remaster talking like fully remake Zelda Ocarina of Time add some new flares and flashes in there, but generally take that game make it 4k and beautiful and Sell it for 500 500

Cozy Snap: 1:34:38

dude. I got a story for you. Actually, this will crack you up Dexter and I were doing the escape room. I don't know A few months back, okay, and it was like this egyptian themed escape room and we go in there And there's like pyramids and all this stuff whatever and we that the lady's like, hey, this is one of our hardest There's some puzzles that you really have to think about. Okay, so we're in here and we get into this one room with a with Like a a tomb and there's like some other things There's a giant mirror in there and then there's like a handheld mirror on the ground And there's this giant sunbeam coming from the top of the ceiling That comes down and then there's like a sarcophagus on the other side and Dexter who's also an avid Zelda fan We both looked at each other and I was like, bro. Did you play Ocarina of Time? He's like, yeah I'm like you use the mirror shield. He's like, yeah, and I'm like 100 percent I'm gonna need you to put that put the mirror to me and beam the reflection of the Sun to the sarcophagus and we opened up that door dude within Seconds, and then we got out the ladies like how the hell did you guys know to do that? And I'm like It was the shadow temple,

Alexander Coccia: 1:35:38

like

Cozy Snap: 1:35:41

just, it was good to say good old days though. Definitely man. Good old days.

Alexander Coccia: 1:35:45

Yeah, definitely the good old days. And let's get a Marvel snap question there from cypher, who says, I really liked the Loki collector in my early days of snap. And that was like the first edition of the Loki deck where you play collector and ramp up, I remember first hearing about it being a problem and it really made me sad that everyone hated my favorite deck. I included this question because I thought it was interesting from a standpoint of like, there's a lot of decks that we, you know, we might get sick of seeing in the meta here and there, but like we lose sight of the fact there's like casual players or people on the can just playing Marvel's now because they enjoy playing it and stuff like that. And Loki is their favorite archetype. And then they open up their game one day and, It's just not the same card ever again, because like competitive people ruined it. You know what I mean? There's a lot of players who play the game so casually. There's a ton of you that listen right now that aren't necessarily the most hardcore people. You're like, I finish my dailies most of the times every day, you know? Like that's the kind of level you play and that's cool. And sometimes when these nerfs happen, it's like you're impacting players. Like the top end of the meta and the sweats and the people that like really care about that one power on this card and the one power on that card. It's like, well, dude, I was just taking a dump and I wanted to play Loki and you ruined it for me. You know what I mean? I shout out to those people that have to live through that.

Cozy Snap: 1:36:59

Yeah, I feel like they do a pretty good job. Sometimes like there's a big head scratchers, like they clearly did that just to To solve the you know, they're really probably most invested players, I guess is the the term. And there's not So many cards that completely got changed like loki is one that like that you're right That was an example that like is gone like that You can't do that anymore and there are I would say there's a handful of those that that have happened, you know it's yeah, I think that's a tough thing about A lot of games that do that and if it was a problem, I think I would we would call it out. I think they do a fairly good job. Not to say that emotions are validated there because it does suck when they take away something you enjoy to play. But yeah, I think they do okay there.

Alexander Coccia: 1:37:48

Yeah, I don't think they're actually trying to like, look at all those casual players playing Loki, F you bud, and they just kill it, you know, it's not that their goal is, they clearly care about the competitive integrity of the game. And I think that comes from like, well, Glenn's experience in magic and stuff like that. Like the competitive side is important, but there's a lot of people that don't play Marvel Snap competitively. That's not why they play this game. They want to play a card battler with superpowers. And sometimes when you take away those superpowers for the purpose of balance, gamers get a little hurt. Then it takes us to our next question from Dave Dream of Dumplings, and it reads, Alex, I love ya bud, but there have been at least 20 times you have said, we don't have that in Canada. And I'm like, like hell we don't. I get called out on this all the time when I've said like, oh, we didn't have that in Canada or whatever. And I was like, bro, like, where, where did you shop? Like, that's clearly still in Canada. Like I, I almost act like Canada and the States are like, Like separated by a massive ocean or something like that. Whereas we have so much of the same stuff. I do get called out pretty frequently about you know, I don't even remember what this was specifically about. Like, what did I say on the last pod where I was like, Oh, we don't have that in Canada. I think it might've been the shows. Samurai Jack. Yeah, it was probably that. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was Samurai Jack. Yeah.

Cozy Snap: 1:38:53

I've, I've, I've seen that in like candy tier lists and stuff. I think that's when I see it the most. I do want to say, I also dream of dumplings, so I like his name.

Alexander Coccia: 1:39:01

You know what? I got dumplings at Costco and honestly, they tasted like garbage. I was not happy with them. There's some things at Costco that just don't, I was going to say, I mean,

Cozy Snap: 1:39:07

you said it in the name there. I got dumplings at Costco. I'm not shocked. They weren't a bangers.

Alexander Coccia: 1:39:13

Really? I feel like caught their mind. I don't want to get into the whole Kirkland signature argument. Kirkland signature is supposed to be the best, no matter what it is, no matter what brand is incorporating Kirkland signature, when I buy Kirkland signature, I expect it to be the absolute best of the best. They should be negotiating the best price. Should be negotiating the best quality. And sometimes they let me down the dumplings actually, he's not even a Kirkland Signature brand, whatever. Let's move on from, from the Kirkland Signature discussion with the last question of the day coming from Eddie Zilla, and this one almost brought a tear to my eye cozy. Cause Marvel snaps going through a lot of changes and Eddie said, it will be a great time to be a Marvel snap player.

Cozy Snap: 1:39:51

It will, as soon as we get that draft mode, it will be, I think someone said, try to go a whole episode without saying draft mode. So there it is. Draft mode.

Alexander Coccia: 1:40:00

It will be when we get character mastery. That's, that's what I'm really waiting for. Draft mode, character

Cozy Snap: 1:40:04

mastery, first edition cards. Yeah, yeah.

Alexander Coccia: 1:40:06

First edition cards, a series drops on the regular. Just, just general, like, that's just, man, you know what I'm saying? I'm not saying we're huffing, hoping all the time. I know snaps been through a bit of a rough spell, but you know what cozy. We still love the game. We still have fun. And we still appreciate that. Each one of you guys are here with us on the Snapchat. And guess what? We'll see you on that next one.

Cozy Snap: 1:40:29

You guys have a good one. Have a great one. Until the next one. Happy snapping.